The Pope is going to undo it. He’s going to say that some of the things Luther said were heresy but he’s not a heretic.
No this is true my friend. It’s appeared in several other places including the Irish Times. We’ll wait and see if it happens.
Luther was only asking the church to change doctrine that was not scripturally based. The sale of indulgences and the treasury of merit are not scriptural.
Agreed everyone is welcome back home to the Catholic Church. Even Martin Luther himself if he so chose during his lifetime.
Then where did it come from because it certainly was happening? How about the treasury of merit? That’s not scriptural either but it was used as a vehicle to raise money for St. Peter’s Bascillica.
No that’s not true. He wanted to hold true to the Bible. He argued that we are saved by Faith alone and not by works. He used Paul’s letter to the Romans to support his claim. If this was true then why don’t the Protestant Bibles reflect these proposed changes you say Luther made?? He only wanted to stress the point that doctrine cannot be declared without the support of sacred scripture which is considered the Word of GOD.
I have never read that he wanted to remove the Pope, Bishops, and Priests. I think this is overblown. Luther was accused of this and in response he wrote a letter to Leo claiming his innocence and praising Leo. He warned Leo that he thought he was surrounded by corruption and pleaded with him to be aware. He specifically mentioned Cardinal Cajetan and Eccius for conspiring to pin on Luther the doubt of the primacy of the Pope. Luther further warned Leo of the concerns he had that those surrounding him were placing him above all councils and promoting him as in charge of Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory. This caused him concern because he felt that these same individuals would abuse Leo’s name and the office of the Pope in matters of scripture. Here is a direct quote from his letter:
The Pope cannot teach heresy. Luther taught heresy. Luther never recanted. Therefore Luther cannot be considered anything but a heretic.
The reprinted the aritcle. Look at the bylines.
You have really no clue what happened or what he taught do you?
I find it interesting that instead of answering the question, you raise ridiculous counter questions which in and of themselves make no sense. The question still stands. Regardless of whether or not this is fantasy of one reporter, if the Pope moves in this direction what will you opinion be??
It is a moot question because the Pope cannot make such an assertion. Speculation on the impossible is silly.
You are so wrong on this. Luther was not acting as one. Luther was following the proper protocol for bringing issues to the table he wanted to discuss. Placing his theses on the church door was the official method they used for communication. The problem was students who understood Latin translated the theses into German which created within a 2 week time span a huge spectacle. That was not Luther’s intention and his letter to Leo demonstrates that.
So let’s wait and see what happens.The Pope cannot teach heresy. Luther taught heresy. Luther never recanted. Therefore Luther cannot be considered anything but a heretic.
The reprinted the aritcle. Look at the bylines.
Well being a graduate from Bible college I think I do.
I love when Roman Catholics post links to sites thinking they are hitting me with new information:shrug:
I’m intimately aware of all of Luther’s teachings. And you confirmed my point which was the basis for his 95 theses. The Pope asked him to recant all subsequent teachings regarding the doctrine of Faith alone etc. in addition to the 95 theses. As far as sola scripture Luther only preached that church doctrine cannot be created without scriptural support. The final word on any church doctrine is not the Pope’s as he argued, its GOD alone. Hence scripture alone.
I have studied the subject and you don’t need to supply me with links to a Roman Catholic website. Maybe you should read all of Luther’s writings. Have you done that???
I do deal with reality. Maybe you should stop living in your fantasy land bed of roses thinking the RCC can never be wrong. What a waste of time you are.
Yes truth is precious. So start being truthful. And critical thinking skills is something you obviously don’t have since you have to refer to newadvent.org and wiki to express your views. So next time make your posts your own educated ones or don’t post.
Think of what Luther accomplished. He may have been right on one or two of the 99 items but the means don’t justify or give justification to the end.
Thank you, Japhy.
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A hearty AMEN to that, Jon.
Hmm… You may be right. The Augsburg document described used a description of confession that is not in keeping with the Catholic understanding. The other is similar to Catholic understanding. Either way, it has certainly changed the idea of confession But it has certainly been removed in practice, has it not?
explain how can one wrong make another wrong right.
Yes.