Maggie Thatcher passes

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Can you imagine what an honor it would be if your agenda fighting for human liberty were so effective that the hateful leftists would throw riots to celebrate your passing? I’m not God, but “Well done, thou good and faithful servant, Margaret Thatcher.” 😃 Rob
 
petronus said:
And the cost of the funeral is estimated at £8 million .

And who will pay ?

The State . :mad:

Where has the free enterprise , anti-State intervention Capitalism gone ?
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One Obama vacation fleeces taxpayers for much more than Baroness Thatcher’s funeral. :o
 
petronus said:
And the cost of the funeral is estimated at £8 million .

And who will pay ?

The State . :mad:

Where has the free enterprise , anti-State intervention Capitalism gone ?
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Meh. State funerals are probably already figured into the budget … and probably overbudgeted for. Especially for the Royals and (ex)Prime Ministers whose passing might be of world interest. If they DON’T do something big … Britain looks small.

They could sell TV rights to someone who could sell sponsorship and probably turn a profit. :sad_yes:

They being “the state”. Will they? 🤷 And if they DO it … will they tell us (or might they keep the windfall “quiet”). :mad:
“What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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And a sentimentalist, my dear Darlington, is a man who sees an absurd value in everything, and doesn’t know the market place of any single thing.”
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– Oscar Wilde (in one of his better, most lucid moments)
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RACJ said:
Can you imagine what an honor it would be if your agenda fighting for human liberty were so effective that the hateful leftists would throw riots to celebrate your passing? I’m not God, but “Well done, thou good and faithful servant, Margaret Thatcher.” 😃 Rob
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Twisted liberty, fighting for liberty for mankind whilst supporting the murder of the unborn is sick liberty.

Plus she won a third term by sending troops to an island 8,000 miles away which britain stole !

Yes the Argentinian war was a gift to her, because her popularity was definitely going down the plug hole, the blood of so many got her re-elected.

Apart from all that above, God is the supreme judge of her me and all… may God be good to her !
 
Slaney said:
Twisted liberty, fighting for liberty for mankind whilst supporting the murder of the unborn is sick liberty.

Plus she won a third term by sending troops to an island 8,000 miles away which britain stole !

Yes the Argentinian war was a gift to her, because her popularity was definitely going down the plug hole, the blood of so many got her re-elected.

Apart from all that above, God is the supreme judge of her me and all… may God be good to her !
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The same “stolen island” that voted 99% to keep Overseas Territory status in the UK?

The Faulklands War was a huge reversal in world weltanschauung. After Vietnam, the fall of the Shah, Cuban troops in Africa, and Soviet annexation of real estate from Cambodia to Grenada, the British routing of the Argentine junta stunned everyone from the politburo in Moscow to their nickel ’n’ dime clients in the presidential palaces, all of whom had figured the “free world” no longer had any fight in it.
 
 
CaptFun said:
… Yet it’s a cause for celebration for some!

…They don’t SEEM to be celebrating her entry into heaven. The expletive on their sign being the tipoff.
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In Glasgow, more than 300 people gathered in the city centre for an impromptu party, organised on Twitter.
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Members of organisations including the Anti-Bedroom Tax Federation, the Communist party, the Socialist party, the Socialist Workers party and the International Socialist Group, were joined by members of the public in George Square…
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m.guardiannews.com/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-party-brixton-glasgow

When this is your enemy list, you must have done some good in your time here.
 
Slaney said:
Thats like asking a baby would you like to be butchered, shot, drawn & quartered or hung, murder is murder, we can’t make it pretty…

Margaret Thatcher was a dictator, a totalitarian in government who treated her colleagues like dim-wits & who publicly embarrassed the Irish government, namely Dr Garret Fitzgerald with her " that’s out, that’s out, that’s out for all the world to see.

She was condescending, and wore a false smile, God will judge her soul, but I personally despised her “my way or no way” dictatorial leadership, about as flexible as a 2x4 plank of wood !
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Her labeling of Nelson Mandela as the leader of a typical terrorist organisation and pursuing a policy of constructive engagement with the white minority SA government, whilst most of the rest of the world imposed economic sanctions against apartheid - was no doubt, in part, because Britain was SA’s principal trading partner and no doubt it wouldn’t want justice to stand in the way of making ‘filthy lucre.’
 
scipio337 said:
When this is your enemy list, you must have done some good in your time here.
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Have you not forgotten others on her enemy list ?

It was her own Conservative Party Parliamentarians who stabbed her in the back , forcing her to resign as Prime Minister .

What a great service those Tories did for the UK ! :dancing:
 
Slaney said:
Plus she won a third term by sending troops to an island 8,000 miles away which britain stole !
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The Falkland’s War was actually in 1982 and preceeded the 1983 General Election where she won her second term. She won her third term in 1987. And John Major won again for the Conservatives in 2002.
 
Slaney said:
…treated her colleagues like dim-wits & who publicly embarrassed the Irish government, namely Dr Garret Fitzgerald with her " that’s out, that’s out, that’s out for all the world to see.
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Sometimes you have to dig your heels in, when you know you’re right…
 
liturgyluver said:
The Falkland’s War was actually in 1982 and preceeded the 1983 General Election where she won her second term. She won her third term in 1987. And John Major won again for the Conservatives in -]2002/-]1992.
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Corrected!
 
Some eggs were scrambled before Thatcher got there … and the solutions weren’t (i.e. aren’t easy).

I’d been hearing that the demographics are changing in “Northern Ireland” and that now the “Protestant” demographic (non-Catholic Christian denominations all combined) are now a minority at 41.6 % and falling, while the Catholic Population is now at 40.8% and rising.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Northern_Ireland

Religion in Northern Ireland (2011)[1]
Catholicism (40.8%)
Presbyterianism (19.1%)
Anglicanism (13.7%)
Non-religious (10.1%)
Not stated (6.8%)
Methodism (3.0%)
Other Christian (5.8%)
Other religions (0.8%)

As an American and far away from any of the troubles … things seem to have gotten better since we used to hear of Pastor Ian Paisley stirring up things, the IRA supposedly getting arms from Libya and Russia, and bombings taking place on each side.

Occasionally we hear of the provocative marches the Orange Order does through the Catholic neighborhoods, but nothing like the carnage of yesteryear (or is it just that our American media doesn’t report it)?

I was in Ireland (and Northern Ireland) in 1989. Near the border there were armed soldiers and we got our car stopped, but no real incident. In Dundalk at that time (we were there for a wedding) we heard stories of skirmishes in the hills … but we crossed the border and rented a car in Newry without much incident.

Most of the people pooh-poohed any danger or wouldn’t speak on the subject. Thatcher was PM at the time in the UK.

Our group of 8 (four men, four women) were temporarily shut out of a Dundalk dance hall but a local told the proprietors we were with Nor-Aid (he said later) and we were let in.

We weren’t happy with the fib for a variety of reasons (from what we heard Nor-Aid was involved in getting guns smuggled onto the island and we wanted NO trouble with anyone!) … but it was a reminder that there was “a war” of sorts being fought somewhere.

Hope things are better there now, and will improve. It did seem to be the hotspot during the Thatcher years – but had been such before she arrived.

With the given demographics, will the North ever vote to join the South in a united Ireland? Or is it more likely that the North will increasingly become Catholic and stay a part of the UK – but with better relations with the south than once existed? Like the US and Canada in most years.

I loved the beautiful country and the people we met in Ireland. As a person of Irish descent it was like coming home in a way.
 
Tony_Micelli said:
So because the pope worked with her abortion and contraception are ok? JPII met with Fidel Castro, does that make him a good guy?

I see a double standard here based entirely on political lines. Somehow the Clinton’s are evil incarnate and Thatcher was a hero despite the fact they both supported and expanded intrinsic evils like abortion and contraception.
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Tony, you’'re way oversimplifying things: the Pope did not work closely with Fidel Castro like he did with Thatcher. He met him, like he has met all sorts of leaders of countries as the Pope is himself a world leader. But cooperating and conspiring with Thatcher to bring down evil regimes (such as the easter bloc communist countries) is woth noting. The Pope obviously saw some serious redeeming qualities in Thatcher. Who knows what kind of conversations he had with Thatcher on life issues. But my guess is the main focus was on trying to free eastern Europe from communist tyranny. Thatcher had a role in achieving that and she deserves some recognition, while also deserving criticism for the things she did wrong. Thatcher did what she thought was right - even in the face of criticism and ridicule. She wasn’t always right, but she had integrity. I have no idea how she will be judged by God. But we ought to recognize the good things she did - while understanding that she wasn’t perfect and had flaws.

Ishii
 
ishii said:
the Pope did not work closely with Fidel Castro like he did with Thatcher.
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The Pope worked closely with Margaret Thatcher ? :confused::confused::confused:

When Pope John Paul II visited the UK he never even met Margaret Thatcher who was then Prime Minister .
 
petronus said:
The Pope worked closely with Margaret Thatcher ? :confused::confused::confused:

When Pope John Paul II visited the UK he never even met Margaret Thatcher who was then Prime Minister .
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That’s because it was a pastoral rather than a state visit and also because of the conflict over the Falklands Islands and the Pope travelling soon to Argentina, it was felt, in the circumstances, that it would be difficult for him to meet any British politician.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion about Mrs Thatcher but I, perhaps, should remind you that it is one not shared by our Pope!:

His Holiness Pope Francis was saddened to learn of the death of Baroness Margaret Thatcher. He recalls with appreciation the Christian values which underpinned her commitment to public service and to the promotion of freedom among the family of nations. Entrusting her soul to the mercy of God, and assuring her family and the British people of a remembrance in his prayers, the Holy Father invokes upon all whose lives she touched God’s abundant blessings.
 
liturgyluver said:
That’s because it was a pastoral rather than a state visit and because of the conflict over the Falklands Islands and the fact that the Pope was travelling to Argentina, it was felt in the circumstances that it would be difficult for him to meet any British politician.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion about Mrs Thatcher but I perhaps should remind you that it is one not shared by our Pope!:

His Holiness Pope Francis was saddened to learn of the death of Baroness Margaret Thatcher. He recalls with appreciation the Christian values which underpinned her commitment to public service and to the promotion of freedom among the family of nations. Entrusting her soul to the mercy of God, and assuring her family and the British people of a remembrance in his prayers, the Holy Father invokes upon all whose lives she touched God’s abundant blessings.
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What would one expect him to say? That she did many things wrong? Of course one doesn’t speak ill of the dead in official statements.
 
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