Manchester 'explosions': A 'number of fatalities' reported following Ariana Grande concert

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Ion said:
I was wondering if a miracle happened at CNN…it did not.
Maybe stick together around Obama? The same wish-wash attitude, like just happened an isolated event and the government had no ideea it was comming, isis is bad but maybe it wasnt them, do not acuse the muslims because they do nothing against terrorism, but do nothing about those suspected and dont dare to suspect the muslim refugees (that would be bigotry and religious discriminatin, only nazi did this-p.n.). A peaceful future will condemn Isis(with the exception of those sacrificed by the government p.n.)
Nice try.
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Did I read it wrong? The opinion piece seemed to condemn ISIS as an utter fail (see last paragraph) without condemning all of ISlam…please tell me what I missed!
 
Crusaderbear said:
Did I read it wrong? The opinion piece seemed to condemn ISIS as an utter fail (see last paragraph) without condemning all of ISlam…please tell me what I missed!
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ISIS is funded by George Soros and you have to blame those who are arming and funding ISIS.
 
BackHand said:
“Salman Abedi” thats a British name all right!
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If he is native born, doesn’t that make him British no matter what his name is?

A citizen here might be named Jorge Garcia, but if he was born here, he is American.
 
7_Sorrows said:
If he is native born, doesn’t that make him British no matter what his name is?

A citizen here might be named Jorge Garcia, but if he was born here, he is American.
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Nope only Anglo-Saxons, Scots or Welsh (maybe Irish) can be British. If I moved to Japan would that magically make me Japanese? No, even if I had children they’d still be treated as Americans, it is only the West that sees anyone with a residency as being a native, If a cat is born in a stable its still a cat not a horse.
 
If a Javan Rhino is born at the London Zoo, does that make him a British mammal ?
 
BackHand said:
Culturally he isn’t British, nor religiously, nor racially , but hes still “British” because he was born there. I see so he’s the liberal version of British.
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Have you heard of mutticulturalism?
Are you going to run around telling second or third generation citizens of a country, because they have the accent, educated and culturally immersed there, that they don’t belong? In their own country? Just because they were born there it doesn’t count?

You think it’s all white Brits? White Australia? White USA?

This is how young people become radicalised, through groups like Daesh telling young peoplethey don’t belong.

Really?

What a s being British today? Is it a red haired royal flag waving blood sausage eating fox hunting peerage bowing Church of England person?

Should all Catholics in UK move to the Vatican?
 
BackHand said:
Nope only Anglo-Saxons, Scots or Welsh (maybe Irish) can be British. If I moved to Japan would that magically make me Japanese? No, even if I had children they’d still be treated as Americans, it is only the West that sees anyone with a residency as being a native, If a cat is born in a stable its still a cat not a horse.
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So if a horse is born in a pasture he’s not a horse - only if he is born in a stable?
Just trying to connect the dots here.
 
BackHand said:
Nope only Anglo-Saxons, Scots or Welsh (maybe Irish) can be British. If I moved to Japan would that magically make me Japanese? No, even if I had children they’d still be treated as Americans, it is only the West that sees anyone with a residency as being a native, If a cat is born in a stable its still a cat not a horse.
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I think this is where the rubber meets the road,re what we are dealing with in terms of these terrorists attacks. It is time to get real,in that ,while the majority of Muslims are not terrorists, the majority of terrorists’ have been Muslim. regardless of the origin of where they were born,being radicalized to act out these attacks in the name of Allah,links the action directly with the faith. So,I understand your point and it is a valid one,IMO
 
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