Many Adams and Eves?

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buffalo said:
Are these the only options?

Didn’t I just read an science journal speculating that a creature “rafted” to another continent?

StA - mock this!
Animals Populated Madagascar by Rafting There

ScienceDaily (Jan. 21, 2010) — How did the lemurs, flying foxes and narrow-striped mongooses get to the large, isolated island of Madagascar sometime after 65 million years ago?

A pair of scientists say their research confirms the longstanding idea that the animals hitched rides on natural rafts blown out to sea.

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Thank you, buffalo, for helping people to see. The “only” explanation is not the only explanation.

God bless,
Ed
 
ThomasToo said:
Oh that’s fine. Does it make sense to say that pi is 3.2 even if we truncate it to such a value (even though it’s bad rounding) for shorthand?
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So what would you say pi IS?

It’s like having a weighing scale in the grocery store. You buy exactly one pound of bananas at 3 pounds per dollar. You need to round things off at 2 digits since we don’t have milli-cents, micro-cents, etc.

Some applications obviously need more than 2 digit accuracy. But a state “defining” what pi is, for practical (most likely commercial) use strikes me as a good thing to do, not a bad thing.
 
ThomasToo said:
I think science has taken over the classroom as well it should.

I would, however, like to know why your religion deserves prime place in the classroom and not, for example, the ideas that thetans are responsible for our ability to think or that Unkulunkulu formed mankind out of reeds or that Ymir fathered the first two humans?
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Here is an answer related to the heritage of the United States. The same country who told its people we were in a struggle with Godless Communism in the 1960s and who also made public reference to our Judeo-Christian Heritage.

mccordfamilyassn.com/aheritag.htm

God bless,
Ed
 
ricmat said:
So what would you say pi IS?

It’s like having a weighing scale in the grocery store. You buy exactly one pound of bananas at 3 pounds per dollar. You need to round things off at 2 digits since we don’t have milli-cents, micro-cents, etc.

Some applications obviously need more than 2 digit accuracy. But a state “defining” what pi is, for practical (most likely commercial) use strikes me as a good thing to do, not a bad thing.
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As I’ve said above, pi is ‘a transcendental number that is the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter [in Euclidean space].’

I don’t think the legislature’s purposes were commercial but that’s a different issue. I’m also hard pressed to imagine a situation where pi (in any rounded fashion) is important for commercial issues. Anything of which one would be buying a given area of product (e.g. counter top) would probably have to pay for the trim too.
 
buffalo said:
Are these the only options? Didn’t I just read an science journal speculating that a creature “rafted” to another continent?
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Sure, that’s a possibility. But rafting 20 million years ago doesn’t help out poor old Noah, who had to make his animal deliveries to all those places only 6,500 years ago.
 
ThomasToo said:
I think science has taken over the classroom as well it should. I would, however, like to know why your religion deserves prime place in the classroom and not, for example, the ideas that thetans are responsible for our ability to think or that Unkulunkulu formed mankind out of reeds or that Ymir fathered the first two humans?
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Thomas, I don’t think science should take over the religion classroom, or the literature or history or art classrooms. Of course, science should make contributions to other disciplines where possible and useful, but it should not “take over.”

The more intractable problem you pose for a pluralistic society is which religious creation story should be privileged over which others. There was a silly controversy a few years back in a city that allowed all but one culture to set up a Christmas display. The Aztec God Quetzalcoatl – to whom hearts were sacrificed – was permitted. Only the Catholic nativity scene was excluded by mandate of the city council. As young people today would say, “That’s messed up!”

StAnastasia
 
StAnastasia said:
Sure, that’s a possibility. But rafting 20 million years ago doesn’t help out poor old Noah, who had to make his animal deliveries to all those places only 6,500 years ago.
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How many creatures you think were on the ark? Hint: consider that science now understands extremely rapid adaptation takes place.
 
ThomasToo said:
As I’ve said above, pi is ‘a transcendental number that is the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter [in Euclidean space].’
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Thank you. We all know that.
ThomasToo said:
I don’t think the legislature’s purposes were commercial but that’s a different issue. I’m also hard pressed to imagine a situation where pi (in any rounded fashion) is important for commercial issues. Anything of which one would be buying a given area of product (e.g. counter top) would probably have to pay for the trim too.
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What do you think the legislature’s purposes were? Could you provide a link? Really, I don’t know.
 
buffalo said:
the USPS flat rate service. All you can fit in a box…🙂
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Now let’s say there’s an ocean to cross, and you have only one Ark. And you have a fox, a chicken, and …oh darn. I don’t remember the rest of it.
 
StAnastasia said:
Thomas, I don’t think science should take over the religion classroom, or the literature or history or art classrooms. Of course, science should make contributions to other disciplines where possible and useful, but it should not “take over.”

The more intractable problem you pose for a pluralistic society is which religious creation story should be privileged over which others. There was a silly controversy a few years back in a city that allowed all but one culture to set up a Christmas display. The Aztec God Quetzalcoatl – to whom hearts were sacrificed – was permitted. Only the Catholic nativity scene was excluded by mandate of the city council. As young people today would say, “That’s messed up!”

StAnastasia
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Hello. Have you read nothing about American history? The Federal Government made frequent reference to this country’s “Judeo-Christian heritage.” I heard it and no attempt at revisionism will change that.

God bless,
Ed
 
StAnastasia said:
Thomas, I don’t think science should take over the religion classroom, or the literature or history or art classrooms. Of course, science should make contributions to other disciplines where possible and useful, but it should not “take over.”

The more intractable problem you pose for a pluralistic society is which religious creation story should be privileged over which others. There was a silly controversy a few years back in a city that allowed all but one culture to set up a Christmas display. The Aztec God Quetzalcoatl – to whom hearts were sacrificed – was permitted. Only the Catholic nativity scene was excluded by mandate of the city council. As young people today would say, “That’s messed up!”

StAnastasia
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Sorry for the confusion. Science should over take religion with respect to scientific questions such as the cause of the diversity of life.

Granted. That is rather silly and frankly I’m not sure how that stands up legally but that’s an entirely different issue.
 
buffalo said:
Oh boy - I can furnish a hundred links that show you wrong. But we should take this to another thread. In the meantime do some research - you can start here: Historical Documents
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Set up the thread and I’m happy to discuss it. You do realize that you’re not trying to show me but the United States government (the senate unanimously approved the treaty I quoted) wrong?
 
ThomasToo said:
‘A Bill for an act introducing a new mathematical truth and offered as a contribution to education’ (Indiana House Bill 246, 1897).
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Ok it wasn’t for commercial purposes. The bill was introduced by a mathematical “hobbyist/ crackpot” and never should have gotten as far as it did.
Dr. Edwin J. Goodwin, M.D., a physician in the community of Solitude, Posey County, Indiana, was one of a long line of mathematical hobbyists to try to square the circle. Dr. Goodwin thought he had succeeded, and, apparently a loyal Hoosier, decided that the State of Indiana should be the first beneficiary of this “new mathematical truth.”
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I’ve forgotten … why did you bring this up? If you’re looking for religious fanaticism, it seems like a dead end. But there’s some promise here if you’re looking for scientific fanaticism.
 
ThomasToo said:
Sorry for the confusion. Science should over take religion with respect to scientific questions such as the cause of the diversity of life.
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And why things fall down? And why South America and Africa seem like they fit together? Or are those to be explained by religion?
 
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