Many Adams and Eves?

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grannymh said:
Ah, one says. All those wonderful posts about mythology across the earth. šŸ™‚

And what exactly is it that unites humanity as one species?

Catholic teaching is that it is the spiritual, rational soul which places humanity at the pinnacle of Godā€™s creation. The spiritual soul is the characteristic or distinguishing mark of the human nature. Since there is only one and only one human nature, it had to be procreated from the one set of parents who possessed the same human nature because that insures the unity of the current human species that has existed since the beginning.

Our spiritual, rational, immaterial, eternal, immortal soul unites us as one distinct, unique species called to share through knowledge and love in Godā€™s own life.

Amazing!

Blessings,
granny

Catholic teaching regarding Adam and Eve is found in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4
Paragraphs 355-421.

The good news of Jesus Christ follows in Paragraph 422, etc.

One can put paragraph numbers and topics such as Adam, etc. in the Catechismā€™s search bar in link www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
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granny,

How are you?

You asked:

And what exactly is it that unites humanity as one species?

Let me guessā€¦ without having to explain it at all.

God? Does that answer properly fill in the gap?
 
StrawberryJam said:
granny,

How are you?

You asked:

And what exactly is it that unites humanity as one species?

Let me guessā€¦ without having to explain it at all.

God? Does that answer properly fill in the gap?
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Your answer deserves an A+ šŸ‘

Iā€™m fine and grateful to God that I am able to help a bipolar son (who lives in another town) through a difficult recovery period. We still have a long way to go to the point where his type of disease can be managed. Please keep us and all those who suffer with mental troubles in your prayers. Thank you.

Blessings,
granny

God is always near.
 
grannymh said:
Your answer deserves an A+ šŸ‘

Iā€™m fine and grateful to God that I am able to help a bipolar son (who lives in another town) through a difficult recovery period. We still have a long way to go to the point where his type of disease can be managed. Please keep us and all those who suffer with mental troubles in your prayers. Thank you.

Blessings,
granny

God is always near.
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Grannymh,

You know I donā€™t pray but I sure will keep you close to my heart, and your family as well. Especially your son. I will plant something tomorrow for him. Iā€™m going to plant a black eyed susan.

I respect you granny, but I can not agree that God fills in this ā€œgapā€ as you do.

This does not mean I donā€™t care for you or dismiss your worldview, or that I am closing my mind off to new information if it comes about.
Right now, I think there is enough information to feel confident I donā€™t need to fill in gaps with God.

But, I am always open to hearing views that differ. And, since I finally got paid after a long wait I can order a book from a catholic scientist who I think will help me with this situation.
 
buffalo said:
What we now know - DNA fights against mutations. It operates sort of like a parity bit in communications and makes several attempts to correct.
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DNA Polymerase repairs and corrects copying mistakes with very high efficiency rates, so how could ā€œevolutionā€ produce an anti-evolution mechanism?
This makes the odds astounding that mutations are responsible for the changes as well as the speed of change
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This is nothing that the logical fallacies of ā€œtime of the gapsā€ or ā€œchance of the gapsā€ wonā€™t fix.
 
redneck22 said:
His research is based on the foundational belief that the history of human origins is found in the divergence of chimps and humans from a ā€œcommon ancestorā€ about 5,000,000 years ago. Unfortunately from what is known in genetic science this is extremely unlikely.
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No, itā€™s not extremely unlikely.
 
StrawberryJam said:
Grannymh,

You know I donā€™t pray but I sure will keep you close to my heart, and your family as well. Especially your son. I will plant something tomorrow for him. Iā€™m going to plant a black eyed susan.

I respect you granny, but I can not agree that God fills in this ā€œgapā€ as you do.

This does not mean I donā€™t care for you or dismiss your worldview, or that I am closing my mind off to new information if it comes about.
Right now, I think there is enough information to feel confident I donā€™t need to fill in gaps with God.

But, I am always open to hearing views that differ. And, since I finally got paid after a long wait I can order a book from a catholic scientist who I think will help me with this situation.
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I misinterpreted your use of the word ā€œgap.ā€ I keep forgetting about that ā€œgod of the gapsā€ thing. CAF was the first time I heard about that and it seems to belong to something which does not make sense to me. Please let me rethink my reply.

My non-theist daughter sends me good thoughts. Those, too, have spiritual power. Thank you for keeping us close to your heart. Planting a black eyed susan is special since I remember them from childhood.

When I study Adam and Eve, I find that it is their spiritual power which set them apart from all the other creatures. Their human nature is the same as ours in that we are a unification of spiritual and material. You and I and all other humans have the same nature no matter what worldview we choose.

The idea that the writer chose to depict Adam and Eve in a garden is sparking my interest. The most difficult thing about Catholicism and Genesis is that Adam and Eve are real, but the first place they lived could be a garden or a place similar to a garden in that it was peacefulā€¦

Blessings,
granny

Human Life Is Sacred
 
StrawberryJam said:
Grannymh,

You know I donā€™t pray but I sure will keep you close to my heart, and your family as well. Especially your son. I will plant something tomorrow for him. Iā€™m going to plant a black eyed susan.

I respect you granny, but I can not agree that God fills in this ā€œgapā€ as you do.

This does not mean I donā€™t care for you or dismiss your worldview, or that I am closing my mind off to new information if it comes about.
Right now, I think there is enough information to feel confident I donā€™t need to fill in gaps with God.

But, I am always open to hearing views that differ. And, since I finally got paid after a long wait I can order a book from a catholic scientist who I think will help me with this situation.
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If all the gaps would be filled in then we would be god. So there will always be at least one gap filled by God. Work backward from there.
 
buffalo said:
If all the gaps would be filled in then we would be god. So there will always be at least one gap filled by God. Work backward from there.
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Adam and Eve, singular, lived in a world which I believe was created totally by God. From Godā€™s side of the process, there would be no gaps of creation or in creation or whatever. The total creative process exists as an objective truth in that it does not depend on our knowledge or on our participation or on anything.

From our side, the gaps are in our own knowledge of the process.

What I have been sensing on CAF, is that the phrase ā€œgod of the gapsā€ is a kind of theory. ???

Blessings,
granny

Human Life Is Sacred
 
grannymh said:
Which scientific community are you referring to?
šŸ˜ƒ
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Iā€™m referring to the scientific community that teaches, researches, publishes, and presents new findings at international conferences.

I am not referring to Dr. Dino, the entertainment artists at the Answers-in-Genesis ā€œmuseum,ā€ or the pseudo-scientists of the Discovery Institute.

StAnastasia
 
StAnastasia said:
Iā€™m referring to the scientific community that teaches, researches, publishes, and presents new findings at international conferences.

I am not referring to Dr. Dino, the entertainment artists at the Answers-in-Genesis ā€œmuseum,ā€ or the pseudo-scientists of the Discovery Institute.

StAnastasia
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During the last century, I worked in an area which had more than one scientific community. At one point, two scientific communities collaborated on a research project, which meant that as a writer, I had to personally interview the community which was outside my current knowledge sphere.

So I repeat ā€“ which scientific community are you referring to? Where is it located? What is its main area of interest? Name and address of the contact person?

If I am to conduct a poll regarding the existence of Adam and Eve in the community you are referring to, I need specific information, please. šŸ˜ƒ

Blessings,
granny

Praise God the Creator!
 
grannymh said:
So I repeat ā€“ which scientific community are you referring to? Where is it located? What is its main area of interest? Name and address of the contact person? If I am to conduct a poll regarding the existence of Adam and Eve in the community you are referring to, I need specific information, please.
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Granny, you are thinking in too literalistic a fashion. ā€œCommunityā€ in this usage refers to scientists in the same way "communityā€™ is used to refer to religious believers, or artists, or vintners. ā€œCommunityā€ refers not to a geographical location but rather to the international group of biologists, geneticists, and like scientists who research human origins. Never have I heard about or attended at a scientific congress a panel on a literal interpretation of the Adam and Eve story.

StAnastasia
 
StrawberryJam said:
What does this have to do with this thread? Was that program discussing the Adam/Eve topic?
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It does not mention them directly.

However, it would be a good program for you to catch if you get a chance.

It discusses the IQ of the universe.

If you havenā€™t figured it out yet Adam and Eve have far reaching implications.
 
buffalo said:
It does not mention them directly.

However, it would be a good program for you to catch if you get a chance.

It discusses the IQ of the universe.

If you havenā€™t figured it out yet Adam and Eve have far reaching implications.
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Thanks for hyjaking the thread.
 
StrawberryJam said:
granny,

How are you?

You asked:

And what exactly is it that unites humanity as one species?

Let me guessā€¦ without having to explain it at all.

God? Does that answer properly fill in the gap?
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Having done the Wikipedia thing with ā€œgod of the gapsā€ ā€“ that is definitely not my worldview.

I simply give credit to God for creation in total and for its individual parts. To me, the unity of humanity is a very important part of total creation. Whether or not humanity is explainable or not, God is still its Creator. If that does not make sense, please accept the fact that ā€œgod of the gapsā€ is not me and neither is fundamentalist interpretation of Scripture.

My position on the reality of Adam and Eve is based on Catholic interpretation and also on the possibility that historically two sole parents of the human species existed.

Blessings,
granny

The human person is the apple of Godā€™s eye.
 
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