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The church used to teach Limbo. It doesn’t anymore. Limbo = out of date teaching.
 
Limbo was never a doctrine Catholics were obligated to believe. And it is still a doctrine Catholics are permitted to hold.
 
Eddie,

Public revelation ceased with the death of Saint John the Apostle. However, man’s understanding of revealed truth will advance until the Parousia.

Do not conflate development with evolution.
 
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Well, the Vatican itself states it was indeed a teaching. Actually, in the very document you posted earlier. So yes, it was indeed a teaching of the Catholic Church at one time. Just not dogma.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...aith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html

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It’s all over that article, actually. And no, this isn’t meant as pedantism.
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^^^^^ The Vatican itself refers to it as a teaching of the church. Hair splitting over whether it was dogma or not is irrelevant since the word in question in the post was “teaching” NOT “dogma”.
 
Of course there are people who would have us think that doctrine can “develop” so we accept gay “marriages”. For them, I would imagine catechisms of any sort are problematic.
 
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Of course there are people who would have us think that doctrine can “develop” so we accept gay “marriages”. For them, I would imagine catechisms of any sort are problematic.
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Which of course nobody on this thread has suggested, so it’s a straw man.
 
Oh, I was just waiting for someone to play the “Gay Marriage” card.

It’s becoming the Catholic forum equivalent of comparing someone to Hitler on the Internet.
 
This is how dogma develops? This is directly opposed to the encyclical from Pope St. Pius X, on the doctrine of the modernists.

In that encyclical, he states that the modernists say, “"…the formulas which we call dogma must be subject to these vicissitudes, and are, therefore, liable to change". Thus the way is open to the intrinsic evolution of dogma. Here we have an immense structure of sophisms which ruin and wreck all religion…”

I recommend you go read the encyclical online. And I’ve are posted several quotes confirming that the Church has taught that science can develop, but dogmas must remain intact.
 
The church used to teach that all Protestants automatically went to hell. It doesn’t anymore. All Protestants are damned = out of date teaching.
 
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Where exactly, in forma specifica, did the Church say “all Protestants automatically went to hell.” Where exactly, in forma specifica?
 
The Catholic Church is ONE in doctrine - the Deposit of Faith is passed intact generation to generation and cannot be amended. This guarantees that any Catholic can pick up any Catholic reference, no matter how old, without fear of being misled or confused. Look at the Summa Theologica - It is 800 years old, covers the whole Deposit of Faith, and still used by the Church today. Who would dare say it’s obsolete?

Likewise, the Baltimore Catechism teaches the same as all catechisms before it, and no one would dare say the previous catechisms became obsolete. The Baltimore catechism may no longer be used in schools as it was for over a century, but it is 100% safe to refer people to. If you think otherwise you really need to go back and hit the books.
 
Dude, you are stuck on your private interpretation of Pius X.

This is the dangerous reasoning that has lead to schism.

Just sayin’
 
What you are saying is gravely erroneous and is a PERFECT example of why I started this thread.

According to, “A Catholic Dictionary” published in the 1950s, there is a definition for Limbo. It states it is “of faith” that there is The “Limbo of the Fathers”, wherein the souls of the just who died before Christ’s ascension were detained, and the “Limbo of Children”, where all children and adults, who leave this world without the baptism of water, blood or desire (therefore in original sin) are excluded from the vision of God in heaven.

Limbo is also taught in the Summa Theologica, many catechisms, Catholic Encyclopedia etc. etc. and does not become obsolete.
 
Before God, what we discuss here does not matter. What matters is if we humble ourselves, curb our massive egos and allow charity to rule our lives and words. Want a scary scripture?
Matthew 12:36-37 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for every careless word they utter; for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”
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What you are saying is gravely erroneous and is a PERFECT example of why I started this thread.

According to, “A Catholic Dictionary” published in the 1950s, there is a definition for Limbo. It states it is “of faith” that there is The “Limbo of the Fathers”, wherein the souls of the just who died before Christ’s ascension were detained, and the “Limbo of Children”, where all children and adults, who leave this world without the baptism of water, blood or desire (therefore in original sin) are excluded from the vision of God in heaven.

Limbo is also taught in the Summa Theologica, many catechisms, Catholic Encyclopedia etc. etc. and does not become obsolete.
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And guess what? The Church doesn’t teach it anymore. Therefore it is an out of date teaching. Unless, of course, you’re implying the Magisterium is currently teaching heresy. Is that what you’re hinting at?
 
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