March for Women

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You sound so bitter. It was a beautiful show of solidarity, women need to be heard. Suffragists faced similar attacks btw.
These people are hardly suffragists.

What right are they fighting for?

What are their grievances?

What is their message?

No one knows, other than they perceive hate from Trump.
 
These people are hardly suffragists.

What right are they fighting for?

What are their grievances?

What is their message?

No one knows, other than they perceive hate from Trump.
I’ve read several articles talking about what the goals were and asking women why they were marching. Some women wrote articles explaining their reasons for marching. It’s just ignorant to act like this information isn’t out there and keep repeating this sort of thing over and over.
 
The big story isn’t about their behavior. It was an overwhelming success.
You’re right, it was successful–there was a huge turnout and they got their point across that these particular women believe that being anti-abortion is being anti-women.

I just see it as sad. Their title implies that they speak for every woman, and the fact is, they don’t. At least call it for what it is, a pro-choice woman’s rally instead of a woman’s rally. If they had done that, I guarantee you there wouldn’t have been a tenth of the turnout. They harnessed the anger that liberals had with Trump and used it for fuel for the pro-choice rally. Frankly it’s a brilliant move. But let’s just see it for what it really is.
 
Does anyone who listened to Ashley Judd still think President Trump is crude 😃
 
Sure, if success means having no clear goal or idea or plan other than demonstrating they love abortion and hate Trump.

Because Trump wants to defund “women’s healthcare”.

All we’ve seen so far are vulgar displays and saccharine slogans about “love trumps hate”.

Who’s hating on anyone?

It’s the tired old argument, “You disagree with me, so you hate this and that group of people.”

All it’s done is turn a section of DC into a giant safe zone.
This!👍
 
And this!👍😃
For the record, I don’t care that Trump is crude. I care that he brags about debasing women and sexually assaulting them. I care that he directs his crudeness to belittle those beneath him.
 
Does anyone who listened to Ashley Judd still think President Trump is crude 😃
Very surprising that this is unclear on among posters here, but morality, as the parable of the Publican and Pharisee reminds us, in not graded on a curve. So yes of course Trump is crude.
 
You sound so bitter. It was a beautiful show of solidarity, women need to be heard. Suffragists faced similar attacks btw.
Here’s one women who wants to know exactly what needs to be heard? Equating abortion and federally funded birth control has no comparison with the right to vote.
 
If there’s one thing we can take from the March for Women, it’s that, judging from the featured speakers, the left’s shock at Trump’s vulgarity was affected.
Looking back at recent posts, and going back to posts when the tape first came out, it is very clear that complaints against Trump were not about the vulgar words that he used, but about the deviance of his character shown by the content of his words. It is also clear that Trump supporters like to pivot to make it seem that issue is that Trump said a “bad word”.

It isn’t and hasn’t been.
It is your choice to actually engage in conversation or not. But the pivot is just: sad.
 
Looking back at recent posts, and going back to posts when the tape first came out, it is very clear that complaints against Trump were not about the vulgar words that he used, but about the deviance of his character shown by the content of his words. It is also clear that Trump supporters like to pivot to make it seem that issue is that Trump said a “bad word”.

It isn’t and hasn’t been.
It is your choice to actually engage in conversation or not. But the pivot is just: sad.
Don’t strain yourself moving that goalpost. It’s heavier than it looks.
 
The big story isn’t about their behavior. It was an overwhelming success.
What success? We were treated to Trump bashing, man hating rhetoric, and got to hear some the most profane and vulgar language by women celebrities .
What is the success?
Oh, I learned Ashley Judd can’t afford tampons. What is she doing with her money?

We got to witness a terror threat from Madonna.

Are these the success you’re talkin about?
 
Are these the success you’re talkin about?
By all measures, it was an overwhelming success. Huge media traction, huge turnout eclipsing the inauguration, and a powerful message to Trump that he cannot trample women.
 
Don’t strain yourself moving that goalpost. It’s heavier than it looks.
You may have missed it, but that has been goalpost all along. It helps to listen, if you want to know what others are saying.
 
I feel like we are only or at least mainly talking about abortion and a few of the keynote speakers in relation to this march. Yes, it was bad that the pro life co sponsor was dropped, but abortion is not the only issue or even the primary issue for many of the marchers. I feel like we’re arguing over this one aspect of the march and also engaging in a “who is most vulgar” contest and ignoring other issues. There was a focus on LGBTQ rights, immigration, and race relations, too. And yes, people are angry at how Trump treated women. Like Megyn Kelly during the campaign. It wasn’t just the Billy Bush video that got people up in arms, and the outrage over that was not just about the swearing. It didn’t help, but that wasn’t the main problem. For myself, I didn’t care much about the video until I listened to it and realized it really did have overtones of sexual assault. As someone who has been assaulted, that was incredibly disturbing and sickening. That’s what I heard people talking about. Not that he used the p word in and of itself.
 
By all measures, it was an overwhelming success. Huge media traction, huge turnout eclipsing the inauguration, and a powerful message to Trump that he cannot trample women.
Ok, so only a woman has permission to trample a woman and wear a demeaning vagina hat?

Please -]man/-]explain this to me, because you seem to be a strong voice for these women…
 
Go back and listen.

No need to, as stated I listened to the tape numerous time and have posted verbatim Trump’s words from the tape. So once again I’ll ask, please state why Trump is not talking about women who throw themselves at stars, and what exactly on the tape or what words does Trump say on the tape to make this clear, as you state it is?
It may be sufficient for reasonable doubt and acquittal, but it is not a definitive test for consent.
 
Ok, so only a woman has permission to trample a woman and wear a demeaning vagina hat?

Please -]man/-]explain this to me, because you seem to be a strong voice for these women…
I dunno what march you were watching, but I didn’t see any vagina hats. Just pink cat ear hats. If cats are offensive, I have more problems than I thought, since I live with two of them.
 
I feel like we are only or at least mainly talking about abortion and a few of the keynote speakers in relation to this march. Yes, it was bad that the pro life co sponsor was dropped, but abortion is not the only issue or even the primary issue for many of the marchers. I feel like we’re arguing over this one aspect of the march and also engaging in a “who is most vulgar” contest and ignoring other issues. There was a focus on LGBTQ rights, immigration, and race relations, too. And yes, people are angry at how Trump treated women. Like Megyn Kelly during the campaign. It wasn’t just the Billy Bush video that got people up in arms, and the outrage over that was not just about the swearing. It didn’t help, but that wasn’t the main problem. For myself, I didn’t care much about the video until I listened to it and realized it really did have overtones of sexual assault. As someone who has been assaulted, that was incredibly disturbing and sickening. That’s what I heard people talking about. Not that he used the p word in and of itself.
I have also been sexually assaulted and abused, and I liberated myself from my physically abusive marriage and am now successful as a working mom raising a large brood of children with absolutely no child support. I have made a conscious decision not to have man in my life. I also vote, and am thankful to. Do I feel the need to yell and scream, support abortion, throw a fit about Trump’s or Clinton’s chauvinistic behavior, talk vulgarly, exclude men and prolifers? Absolutely not!
 
By all measures, it was an overwhelming success. Huge media traction, huge turnout eclipsing the inauguration, and a powerful message to Trump that he cannot trample women.
Interesting.

Media made a big deal about the inauguration numbers, Trump played along and increased the emphasis on attendance as a value parameter for newsworthiness of an event.

Wonder why. Especially knowing the Women’s March was going to by yuuuge. And knowing it was far-left, primarily organized by pro-abortion groups like Planned Parenthood and an Islamic woman with ties to Hamas. (wonder what her goal is, Islam’s view of women seems to conflict with professed leftist women’s values). Knowing that pro-life groups had been excluded and removed by the organizers as sponsors.He also had to know media coverage was going to be yuuuuge.

Might be that coming up later this week is the March for Life which will have similar attendance. And has for years (except last year with only 100K due to snow emergency). Might be that even with similar numbers it gets far less coverage than any other demonstration of similar size. In fact, I just googled for articles-- Women’s March articles say “Hundreds of Thousands Marched”… in their descriptions while articles on the March for Life say ‘thousands marched’… in their descriptions.

Weird huh. Events of similar size with widely different coverage.

Trump just reinstituted the Mexico City policy. Gonna get a lot of pressure about how the ‘Women’s March’ shows he’s out of sync and he needs to listen to all those women.

Wonder if he’s going to point out there’s a group just as large, deliberately being downplayed by a biased media that deserves to be listened to on the issue as well. I mean – the media made a big deal about attendance as a metric, that ~500K is a big deal. March for Life has been providing those numbers for years…
 
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