Marian Movement of Priests?

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**In the year 2000, we were not able to see the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. So, in 2001, we asked ourselves, “What shall we do?” With the grace of littleness, Our Lady reveals her Immaculate Heart to her little ones. **

In the message of July 29, 1973, (M. 9g) Our Lady said, “ They must understand that to belong to the Movement nothing external nor any juridical act is necessary; what is indispensable, however, is an interior consecration of their whole selves and a total offering of their priesthood to my Immaculate Heart.” The names of the members are recorded for one purpose only: to keep the members informed. The Movement is not an association like the other associations; it is a “spirit” that the members are called to live.

**The first and most important thing is detachment, is to live only for Jesus, to live the Gospel to the letter. We are also called to love the Pope. **

**We must have hearts of little children. We are to have hearts of Christ, “Alter Christus”. Jesus within us can work mercy to offset the work of Iniquity. **

**Our consecration and the spreading of the cenacles are all important. It is Our Lady’s spirituality. **

**Faith is the essential. Faith is attacked by heresy. Christ calls us to defend the Church. **

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**Pope Paul VI once said that in the heart of the Roman Catholic Church, thoughts prevail that are not Catholic. This is becoming more prevalent in the U.S., France and other countries. We should not be surprised. Our Lady is intervening for us. She is opening us to Divine Wisdom, proclaiming the Gospel. His Word is the same yesterday, today and forever. We are to proclaim it with courage. **

**What do you think Jesus would do today? It is the same Gospel. We must have the courage, move forward and remain faithful to the Cross. We are to bring joy to the Immaculate Heart. We must not worry what others say. Victory will assuredly take place. The great apostasy will be diffused. We are to live in Christ, in his grace. One day, before God, we will have to give an account of our fidelity. **

**The Adversary works on the priests by attacking and persecuting them. It is important that we wear our priestly garb. Our Lady, in spite of our failures and weaknesses, she brings us to holiness. We are to find comfort in the Immaculate Heart. We are on a journey to Calvary with her and the Holy Father. Enthusiasm is so very important. The army of Satan will be destroyed by the little ones. Our Holy Father has asked for the Rosary in order that this work may be accomplished. **
 
I have been studying MMP for a while now and until I can confirm the errors myself in relation to the diary as it relates to the catechism, I will personally steer clear of this devotion until final approval is given. From a well known apologists website:
GOBBI’S STORY
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If your knowledge of Father Gobbi is limited, let us recap his story. It will be helpful if you want to pass this letter around. For years now we have read every single word written in a continuously growing book called “The Marian Movement of Priests”. The book is a composite of all the locutions received by a priest named Father Stefano Gobbi.
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Gobbi claims Mary spoke to him in Fatima in 1972, telling him to form the Marian Movement of Priests. He says that Mary speaks to him in his heart. He writes down what he hears in his heart. His spiritual director accepts or rejects them, then edits them. Then they are sent out to the world as the voice of Mary.
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His writings are very good. They correspond with other private revelations quite well. Not entirely, as you will see, but good. Then again, they would have to be good to fool the priests of the world. There is no one present at these locutions, so a great deal of time can be spent in preparing and editing them.
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The first thing that bothered us was the constant insistence that priests simply wait for Mary to tell them what to do. She would do everything. They were to simply do nothing until-- ??? What also bothered us was that this is right about the time that the top communist priest claimed that he had started up an apparitions to help him separate priests from their bishops. (See AA-1025) Then there was the warning of Jacinta of Fatima. Something very bad was going to happen in 1972 throughout the world. Since all 38 prophecies of Fatima came true, what happened in 1972?
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The following year abortions were made legal. That could be it, but all the other prophecies happened exactly to the day as predicted. The only other thing that happened was that Gobbi went to see Brother Geno and then to Fatima and started up a movement that goes right after all the priests of the World. Why were these books distributed so easily throughout the world? Where did all the money come from? Other mystics, like Faustina and Emmerich would take 40 to 100 years to be known worldwide. Especially, since communist priest, AA-1025, said that they started up a false apparition to get control of the Church, and this one goes right at the priests.
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It also seemed that Gobbi was becoming Pope to many priests around the world. His influence was becoming greater than the bishops simply because he claimed to have messages directly from heaven. Never in thirteen years has God placed His signature on these locutions to prove Gobbi’s claims. Never has there been a miracle. God’s signature is miracles.
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These things we wondered about, and then, we read a locution claiming that the Anti-christ was alive. Then we knew that he was one of the Twentieth Century False Mystics.
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I wasn’t going to post here, because I didn’t want to offend the OP, but, since this thread has turned the way of discussing Father Gobbi’s revelations, I’d like to give my own (name removed by moderator)ut on the MMP.

I attended one MMP meeting, and I read Father Gobbi’s book. At the meeting, the members prayed the Rosary, then read some verses from the book. And that was that. I enjoyed the Rosary, but not the book. Why not the book?

Well, I was allowed to read it a day before the meeting. The so-called “revelations” are not revelations - at all. I can give you some great examples of theological errors and heresies in the book:
  • “Mary” claims Jesus will return in glory in the year 2000
  • “Mary” claims Jesus’ glorious reign will take place at a third coming
  • “Mary” claims the Pope after John Paul II will be the antichrist
  • “Mary” claims she is Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix, and Advocate in a very bizarre manner
  • “Mary” claims the MMP is her personal army
  • “Mary” claims the MMP is the arm of the Church
  • “Mary” claims the MMP is the last defense against Satan
Just like how the Jehovah Witnesses had to change their beliefs on Jesus’ coming when Jesus didn’t return when they said He would, so too, the MMP has changed its beliefs on Jesus’ coming when He didn’t come, claiming Jesus came spiritually in the year 2000 - something which is not possible since He is present in the Holy Eucharist and has reigned in the hearts of righteous men for as long as the Church has existed! But MMP advocates say that what Mary was talking about was a reign of peace, the age of peace, which is claimed to take place before the Second Coming - however, this “age of peace”, according to almost every mystic writer, is the age of Christian unity, and as you can plainly see in the world, Christians are not yet united! Faced with this dilemma, though, the MMP advocates further say that Christians are in fact united because they are united in spirit or in faith or in Jesus Christ (depending on who you ask) - but, they seem to forget that, since the beginning of the Church, there has always only been One Faith, One Spirit, One Baptism. Other claims which MMP advocates make are more ridiculous, such as the claim that the “2000” is not to be taken literally but is a symbolic number for the unknown date of Jesus’ coming (even though “Mary” clearly says Jesus will return in the year two thousand).

If this isn’t proof enough that the MMP is acting like a cult, or, at the very least, is deceiving Christians, than I don’t know what will convince people.
 
Have you investigated the explanations of these discrepancies given by Fr. Albert Roux? They are predicated on the misunderstanding of the terms used that you indicate, that what is said of the locutions in question is not correct, such as the “intermediate” coming is what we have now, a Eucharistic reign of Christ.
The Millennium (also known as the temporal or millenary kingdom) will be established by Jesus when He comes in glory in his spirit. Jesus will not be present in the flesh, but will reign in our will and, in a most powerful way, by means of the Eucharist. The duration of this kingdom cannot be interpreted as a literal 1000 years.
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Fr. Roux is affiliated with MMP so I take what he says as a defense but not proof. I will join this group is it is approved, not before.
 
you have mentioned a few people there that i would stay well clear of especially the two patricks.
 
I am resurrecting an old thread.

Cardinal Wuerl said in Rome, just prior to the election of Pope Francis that the Church is now experiencing the effect of the world as if it has been deluged by a tsunami. It seems to trump all that we believe in Christ and about our Church.

I am not saying the world has overcome the Church.

But its power to take away our youth raised in the Catholic faith and schools is very overwhelming.

Pope Benedict Emeritus stated he foresaw the devout followers of the Catholic faith becoming small, but later growing again.

Last night I went to my first cenacle in many years, and there were 5 of us. I have not paid much attention to messages but more the presence of the Immaculate Heart of Mary with like minded people. I cannot afford to go to Medgugorje.

I find the message of Fatima very simple and attainable in the place God has placed me. Likewise, I have experienced first hand many difficulties experienced by priests in the past 40 years and yes, they must be contemplative and seek the will of God and prudence, and the Immaculate Heart of Mary helps them discern.

The 100 years given to Satan by Christ, Pope Leo XIII’s revelation of his interior locution, and his response to consecrate the world to the Sacred Heart of Jesus in the fall of 1899, does appear to point to the devastation of the 20th century church and loss of faith. Not only was this happening, but in the USA, even Protestant churches and ecclesial communities experienced the devil’s hand compromising belief and witness in Jesus Christ, to instead favor power and ego-- the spirit of man, not Christ.

So you can say AntiChrist is the spirit of man invalidating and compromising Christ.

Christ is to be always the standard to discern all things, not people favored because they have power or money or their own agendas.

The past decade or so what we have seen is the infection coming to the public eye, however most painful, to now be plucked out and eradicated…the sex abuse and mismanagement within the Church.

In these past few years, I have been getting these little, contemplative promptings that now is the time for the ‘desert’ to bloom with Jesus Christ, and for us through Mary to not be afraid and to now find ways to evangelize our faith to others through our parishes and various aspects of our lives.

We who are Christians must uphold the standard of Christ, His Person and presence, His exhortations in all our associations, and not get into ‘anti-Christian’ power struggles, disputes, bearing false witness to gain positions, priests siding with the rich and powerful who many see as the 'sharks in the parishes…that subsequently caused alot of lay people to just go to Mass on Sundays and not seek any further involvement with their Christian communities. For others, they quit going.

Now is the time for the desert to bloom!!!
 
Hi,
I have just put a blog posting of an analysis of Fr Gobbi’s revelations and how they compare with the teachings in the Catholic Catechism
God bless!
www.divinemercypopes.com
 
What I draw to is the presence of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and Fr Gobbi’s articulation of being devoted to her heart and its effect on us, expounding on Mary of Fatima’s request that we consecrate ourselves to her Immaculate Heart.

I don’t read line for line, and I was part of those who were taken back by some remarks of his in the early 90’s.

I would like to read this…and when the unity of the Church is restored, yes, persecution begins.

Essentially for myself, the movement is to remain in her heart, to remain in peace and have a quiet center, and avoid all anxieties, but to bring forth Christ in the Church, and through the parish.
 
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