Marriage validity question

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Neb: I felt nothing but joy over your post and question, and since you’ve contacted the archdiocesan office, gotten a response, that you love your hubby, and that your wit and spirit are alive and well, I see nothing but GOOD in all you’re doing.

I was brought up in a household where religion was not spoken, but to be politically correct, my mother went to church and took me there - I sang in the choir for ten years from age 8 to age 16 - and I guess I sang every one of the eight different vocal parts of the Messiah, since it was our Easter offering each of those eight years…as my voice changed from first soprano year by year to second base at the ripe age of 16. 7 years later I joined the Catholic Church while I was overseas in military service, and it has been a 55 year “normal rollercoaster ride” ever since.

As a child I had ZERO instruction, ZERO sense of religious experience, and ZERO practice of religion in the home - mom and dad were honest people but did not “do” religion at all. I do honor their fidelity to honesty. I did not know if I had been validly baptized as an infant: I received a conditional baptism at my conversion and entrance into the CC.

So I know how life happens and our minds are impressionable, and that profound truths of faith are simply not something grasped by kids in environments where no one lives them.

You “did good” contacting the archdiocese and you can take whatever they told you to the bank. I believe that you should have no concerns about God recognizing your marriage as valid and that you are in good conscience in your relationship. As for the status of the marriage if “put to the test” at some time during your time with the RCIA program, in due time I’m sure it will be considered and dealt with appropriately without prejudice to your joy.

You go, girl!
 
Thanks George :). Yeah, I don’t want to put my parents down, they are excellent parents. They just don’t get the ‘religion thing’. I definitely feel good about how things are going. Thanks for your kind words.
 
First, no matter how wrong Gail or Dan thinks the decision must be (and Gail appears to have recently emerged from some sort of cryostasis), both of them ought to know (since the law presumes knowledge of itself) that the decisions of diocesan tribunals provide moral certainty. It’s not impossible for them to err, but even if an error were to occur the recipient of a decision acts on that decision without any culpability, no matter how many nay-sayers try to keep carping about it.
:o Actually, he was mistaken (in at least this bit, if not more) :o

As a baptized person married to an unbaptized person, your current, valid marriage could be dissolved and you could then celebrate a union in a nuptial Mass.

But don’t go making any plans – Dissolution would require intervention by the Pope. :eek:

Best stick with the guy you got 😉
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Secondly, since we’re (in jest) speaking about the more interesting complexities of the law, I would say without rechecking the CIC that the Pauline privilege only applies to marriages that were contracted before baptism - both of those last two terms being operative, so that the OP being a baptized person knowingly entering marriage with an unbaptizing person would not fall into the proper category. Also, if the Pauline privilege were made use of, no formal action is required to dissolve the marriage - it is dissolved by law upon contracting another marriage. Furthermore, it can only be made use of when the unbaptized party refuses to live peacefully with the baptized party through no fault of the baptized. C’mon tee, you really need to get your story straight! Next you’ll be advising concocting a story to use the Petrine privilege for dissolving an unconsummated marriage!😃
 
Dear Nebula - Have you looked over the Impediments and found out what your marriage is lacking and is your hubby willing to work on some of that stuff with you? You both could try reading through the Nicene Creed together and take it from there. If you find yourself stuck on a few points you don’t quite agree with or understand yet, try this little prayer: Lord, I do believe, heal my unbelief. If you’re still having troubles, write them down and save it for the Bishop. He can give a dispensation from the norms for you and your hubby. But that is something only a Bishop can do. He’ll have to talk with you both. You’re regular parish priest can interview the two of you together and ask some of the questions the Bishop would need to have answered, but he’ll still have to send you to the Bishop. Wow. I’m in awe as to all the holiness that will happen for you two when everyone gets out of God’s way. God bless you and Mary keep you.

Peace,

Gail
 
Dear Nebula - Have you looked over the Impediments and found out what your marriage is lacking and is your hubby willing to work on some of that stuff with you? You both could try reading through the Nicene Creed together and take it from there. If you find yourself stuck on a few points you don’t quite agree with or understand yet, try this little prayer: Lord, I do believe, heal my unbelief. If you’re still having troubles, write them down and save it for the Bishop. He can give a dispensation from the norms for you and your hubby. But that is something only a Bishop can do. He’ll have to talk with you both. You’re regular parish priest can interview the two of you together and ask some of the questions the Bishop would need to have answered, but he’ll still have to send you to the Bishop. Wow. I’m in awe as to all the holiness that will happen for you two when everyone gets out of God’s way. God bless you and Mary keep you.

Peace,

Gail
Gail. Huh? I told you on this board and in PMs that I talked to the bishop’s marriage tribunal and they told me my marriage is valid. Why do you keep trying to undermine the authority of the bishop? It makes no sense.
 
Am I the only one who finds Gail nearly incomprehensible? How about her suggestion that I baptize my child? HUH?

Gail, is it that you are not a part of the RCC but a branch of some sort?
 
Am I the only one who finds Gail nearly incomprehensible? How about her suggestion that I baptize my child?
I, for one, have never heard a Catholic advise that anyone other than a deacon or priest should baptize a child, save in emergency situations.

:twocents:
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That was my understanding tee.

Gail I’m not intending to be insulting, but I’m genuinely confused.
 
Am I the only one who finds Gail nearly incomprehensible? How about her suggestion that I baptize my child? HUH?

Gail, is it that you are not a part of the RCC but a branch of some sort?
To answ3er your first question - nope. But she is very well meaning.
 
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