Marrying a man twice your age

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I’m sorry, Runwaymodel, I respectfully disagree with the advice you are getting, which can be characterized as “regardless of the age difference, go for it!” I think that advice is, with due respect to others, completely unsound, so much so that I chide those who have advanced it. Let me explain:
  1. You appear to be talking about an approximately 20 year age difference, at least. Don’t be fooled by the “puppies and kittens” nonsense about that being irrelevant: It is hugely relevant. You are now, and always will be, at extremely different stages of life from him. This is huge.What if he wants kids tomorrow? Would you be comfortable with that? Conversely, if you had a baby at 35; you’d still be a young woman but he’d probably be nearing 60, and, at a very different stage of life. Moreover, I actually think that, for example, the difference between 2 people is less if she’s 50 & he’s 70, than it is when she’s 23 & he’s 43, simply based upon the way folks “grow up” these days. You will be in the prime of life when he is an old man. That is asking a lot of anyone.
1A. On that subject, are you really going to be his equal partner? If he’s a successful businessman with some real-world experience, what exactly do you “bring to the table?” I’m not suggesting you don’t bring anything, far from it…I’m seriously asking, “what do you think he sees in you?” I can see a marriage between diverse-age partners working but only when its based on mutual respect, stemming from, for example, similar life views but also similar intellects. When I was 23, I cared nothing for 401(k)s, investments, ecuational issues for children, etc. These things will be important to him…Do you have opinions on these? Will he respect them? Will he care what you think?
  1. Do not discount roles of famiy & friends. His friends will always be older. Yours will always be significantly younger, and they will want to do the various activies people of those groups will aways enjoy. I am sincerely sorry to be blunt but, even in 2011, don’t be shocked if some component of his friends will look at you as a “trophy wife,” and some of yours will quietly call him a cradle robber.
  2. Now, regardless of what friends think, let’s look at what HE thinks. I know this may be a hard concept, but for a mid-forties guy, ANY woman under 25 – particularly one with the screen name “runwaymodel” – is going to be appealing. The comment of another poster, about looks fading, is misplaced, for this reason: His dating pool is probably women who are 40-ish, and with due respect, most women look better at 23 than at 43. The point is, and again, I’m not trying to be offensive - are you really sure you are not a “trophy wife” to him?
  3. Over & above all of that, the bit about being a workaholic is also disconcerting. My guess is that a 40-something man, single, and a workaholic, is probably very devoted to his career, so much so that it ought to be a genuine concern to you.
  4. Oddly, I note the bit that “he could retire now.” In this economy, maybe 0.0001% of 40 year olds can retire NOW. Your comment is insightful, for 3 wholly different, but equally wrong, reasons. Either a) you are vastly overestimating how much he actually owns (equity vs. appearance, i.e., a leased porsche is a nonexistent asset since it’s not owned) since so few people can genuinely retire at 40; or b) you are vastly underestimating how much money one really needs to retire at 40+ (its usually millions, plural, subject to desired standard of living), which speaks to your own life experiences and financial maturity; or c) he really does have millions in liquid cash and really can walk away, which, with all due respect, is IMHO no blessing and is actually a curse, since that much money makes you lose perspective, makes one a target, etc., you can be so rich that it is hard to date someone because of other different life backgrounds, etc. Plus, if he really has that many millions, is successful, and he has 20 years on you? I’m sorry, you can and will be the trophy wife.
I’m really sorry to sound harsh and I don’t mean to, but I am highly skeptical of this, as I am of most romances between parties of big age differences. For my $0.02, “5 years either way” is a very nice and very consistent guideline, because beyond that “different stages of life” rears its ugly head.

Good luck.
This is SUCH a GREAT post Runwaymodel. It summed up everything I was thinking.

Also, I suspect you have already made up your mind and are planning on marrying this man. It doesn’t really matter much what anyone says at this point IMO.

Heck, when I was young and gorgeous like you, I used to look at men older than 35 with disgust. I was like…“ooo he’s old!!!” 😃

A 40 something man dating a girl in her young 20’s is looking at a future trophy wife and if you are ok with this, then go for it.

Also, if he’s a hard working man, he will be spending many many hours away from you and while this seems ok to you now, when kids come along, it’s going to be very hard. I have young children and it’s the hardest thing you’ll ever do in your life…and without support from your husband, it will become that much harder…trust me on this one.
 
I just wanted to add, Runwaymodel, b/c when I was younger, I was very beautiful also and beauty for a woman is a form of currency.

Women want security and men want beauty.

Often, a younger woman would not date an older man unless he had lots of money.

Often, an older man with money, will seek out a much younger beautiful mate.

I want to stress that this does not mean that your marriage will and cannot work. You could have a long and wonderful marriage, but I just want to put this out there. The age difference that you are talking about would give you guys an 80% chance of divorce.

Really look at the situation for what it is…is it genuine 100%?
 
If your really a runway model and it doesn’t work out with this older gentlemen-give me a private message, huh? :p:p:p
 
Dietrich von Hildrebrand was much older than Alice. I believe they were 34 years apart.

So age does not mean as much as other factors.
 
Thank you EasterJoy. Everything you mentioned is something I have thought about for a while now. Wonderful post. 🙂
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I just wanted to add, Runwaymodel, b/c when I was younger, I was very beautiful also and beauty for a woman is a form of currency.

Women want security and men want beauty.

**Often, a younger woman would not date an older man unless he had lots of money.

Often, an older man with money, will seek out a much younger beautiful mate**.

I want to stress that this does not mean that your marriage will and cannot work. You could have a long and wonderful marriage, but I just want to put this out there. The age difference that you are talking about would give you guys an 80% chance of divorce.

Really look at the situation for what it is…is it genuine 100%?
I agree completely with everyone you say here, especially the part in bold. While I do admit that one of my “non-negotiables” for marrying a person (besides being of the same faith, sharing same morals, being a family person, etc) is most definitely security. Does that make me vain? Yes, no, maybe. I am not sure.
It is not set in stone. I cannot and will not marry someone simply because they have money. That is disgusting. I do want to make sure it is something that is genuine, as you say, because I am catholic and plan on being married forever.
I posted this because I truly do not want to stretch a relationship on any longer and give a person false hope if the end result is not marriage. I believe we are very compatible and have a wonderful bond except for the age. Ideally I would like at least 5 years shaved off but, eh, life isn’t perfect. 🤷
 
Dietrich von Hildrebrand was much older than Alice. I believe they were 34 years apart.

So age does not mean as much as other factors.
Holy smokes! Is that a record- we won’t put Hugh heffner in the race!?

If I give this couple credit and have some hope, it’s due to the fact that he’s willing to wait!!

Considering her alleged good looks and the man’s age, I think that says something.
 
Holy smokes! Is that a record- we won’t put Hugh heffner in the race!?

If I give this couple credit and have some hope, it’s due to the fact that he’s willing to wait!!

Considering her alleged good looks and the man’s age, I think that says something.
Dietrich has passed away some years ago. Alice is in her 80’s. She is on EWTN often, and has such an intellect.

Dietrich was referred to by Pope Pius as a “Living Doctor of the Church”

So nothing at all like Hugh Hefner. 🙂

But if her beau is in his 40’s, George Clooney is 50, and Brad Pitt is 48.
 
Dietrich von Hildrebrand was much older than Alice. I believe they were 34 years apart.

So age does not mean as much as other factors.
How very fascinating. Thank you—I had no idea. Then again, it is not a very common dilemma the majority of couples face.
 
Thank you EasterJoy. Everything you mentioned is something I have thought about for a while now. Wonderful post. 🙂

I agree completely with everyone you say here, especially the part in bold. While I do admit that one of my “non-negotiables” for marrying a person (besides being of the same faith, sharing same morals, being a family person, etc) is most definitely security. Does that make me vain? Yes, no, maybe. I am not sure.
It is not set in stone. I cannot and will not marry someone simply because they have money. That is disgusting. I do want to make sure it is something that is genuine, as you say, because I am catholic and plan on being married forever.
I posted this because I truly do not want to stretch a relationship on any longer and give a person false hope if the end result is not marriage. I believe we are very compatible and have a wonderful bond except for the age. Ideally I would like at least 5 years shaved off but, eh, life isn’t perfect. 🤷
Life is definitely not perfect for sure and sometimes we have to take a leap of faith.

Have you prayed to discern what God wants you to do?
 
While** I do admit that one of my “non-negotiables” for marrying a person** (besides being of the same faith, sharing same morals, being a family person, etc) is most definitely security.
We can never be 100% secure. This is okay too, since Christ is where we put our hope. Financial security can be a distraction from putting our trust in God. I’m not saying that it is the case with you, but sometimes people can let money give them a false sense of security.

I wish you all the best.
 
Workaholics do not make good husbands and fathers. Something to take into consideration.
I agree, though we see a lot of conflicting advice on this issue. Many posters on CAF want to homeschool their children. I do not see how that’s possible unless the husband is a workaholic. How can one income provide for a family unless it’s a job that requires a heavy time investment?
 
Heck, when I was young and gorgeous like you, I used to look at men older than 35 with disgust. I was like…“ooo he’s old!!!” 😃

A 40 something man dating a girl in her young 20’s is looking at a future trophy wife and if you are ok with this, then go for it.
See, we come from different prejudices in our backgrounds. When I was younger and cuter, and I mean from the time I was ten or twelve or even younger, I much preferred the company of people who were a lot older than I was. They were more interesting and, to be blunt, I thought they were less shallow, less cruel, and less self-centered. I did not have to worry about using words that were too big. I did not have to worry about being uninterested in whatever the pop fashion of the moment was. I did not have any trouble disagreeing with them or throwing ideas around with them, either. I didn’t get bored with them. I liked them and they usually liked me. Being around older people enough, I had some idea about their life histories and the stuff they found interesting. The older guys certainly weren’t any more shallow than the younger ones when it came to be interested in women primarily for their looks and whatever other compensation they could offer.

So yes…if this young woman has never had much of an interest in the company of people older than herself, that would be a big red flag. Before she died, you could have asked Princess Diana: if older guys haven’t always been an interest of yours, expect that the novelty will wear off…for both of you. If all the older guys you’ve ever met have always bored you before, this guy will probably bore you. If this guy is giving you attention you wished you had gotten from your dad, leave him and go back and get that from your dad. If you’ve always found your parent’s friends more interesting than the kids you had to go to school with, though, then you might be the kind of young person that could have a good marriage with someone a lot older.

I worry less about a 40-something who has never married before, because I have prejudices in that direction, too. They’ve largely been nice guys who didn’t think it would be fair to subject a wife and family to their work hours or who were very concerned they not fall to the ugly divorces that their friends had. It’s been the ones who’d been previously married or had many previous girlfriends that cause more suspicion.

I have found, though, that if I made genuine connections with a guy’s friends, they become my friends. They’ll be protective if they think their friend is vulnerable, particularly if he’s maybe too nice for his own good and they don’t want him to be hurt, but if they think their friend is a jerk, they’ll be protective of me. I’ve been tipped off many times by a guy’s friends. Be a real friend to your boyfriend’s friends and relatives, and you can learn a lot! You can hardly help it.

I can think of one older bachelor, though–and I think he is far more common than my limited experience would indicate–who liked younger women very much because they didn’t object so quickly to his OCD-like attention to detail. The guy cleaned the outsides of the engines of his vehicles with alcohol and cotton swabs! When he had an opinion, which he usually did, he was right, and that was that. I don’t think he’d have objected to a woman his own age who was similarly interested in fitness and who would put up with what an opinionated fuss-budget he was, but there weren’t many women of any age in that category. He had a heart of gold, he was generous, genuine, and very ethical, but there just aren’t many people who could live with him. He dated, but I don’t know if he ever married.

Again: you can kind of feel this sort of thing out by forging a real relationship with his friends and relatives. They will fill you in, if you’re genuinely interested in what they think and patient enough to let your relationship develop before you jump into a marriage.

These are the kinds of things you pick up on if you take your time with the courtship. It’s always a bad idea to rush into a marriage, but even more so if there is a significant red flag such as a big age difference, a history of divorce on one side of the other, a history of substance abuse in someone’s past, etc.

The age difference isn’t a disqualifier, but it is a big red flag. The OP ought not proceed with caution only, but with more patience and more hard-eyed self-assessment even than the usual path to the altar would prudently require.
 
She said in her first post that they have been dating a year now.
It’s not time for a pre-nuptial agreement. It is time to spend a lot more time with his family and friends. Get to know them, let them get to know you before you make any plans. You have much to learn. Besides, without a relationship with them, the marriage will have a difficult road. All marriages need friends in common, but IMHO this is especially true of marriages where the age difference is great.

As hard as it is on the older party, a courtship that’s longer than what is typical of either of their age groups is just a good idea. They really need to get to know and like each other’s social circles…well, the part that their partner likes. (You don’t have to like her old friends if she was having serious misgivings about them before she met you.)
 
I agree, though we see a lot of conflicting advice on this issue. Many posters on CAF want to homeschool their children. I do not see how that’s possible unless the husband is a workaholic. How can one income provide for a family unless it’s a job that requires a heavy time investment?
Being a workaholic does not merely mean one is capable of working long hours. There are many hard workers who can match the work schedules of a workaholic, when their family needs them to. Some have done so since childhood. Being a workaholic implies an inherently toxic relationship to work in general, where work itself is too much of a god and a needed consolation.

It’s like the miner who asked John Kennedy if he’d ever worked with his hands a day in his life. When the then-senator replied that he hadn’t, the miner reportedly replied, “You haven’t missed a thing.” A person with a healthy work ethic may need to do something productive some of the time, true, but they welcome rest and recreation, too. They’re not toxic in their worship of work.
 
Yes, of course I would stick around if he ever got sick or ill, as I would expect he would if something ever happened to me. Marraige is not meant to be easy and everyone will always have different obstacles, and this is my obstacle. I just wanted to consider and take advice from every view

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I understand what you are trying to say, but I didn’t ‘want’ to fall in love with a man who much older than me, it just happened. Its not like I went out purposefully seraching for older gentlemen to date. :blushing:
Yes, I have thought about the situation with future kids. That is one that concerns me a lot. But a more youthful age doesn’t make for a more loving and caring Father.
Well it’s your choice of course but just a word or warning. The previous secretary at my job married a much older guy (I think he was maybe 23 years older) she stayed good friends with my boss over the years and she’s a really sweet person but she never had kids and now she’s taking care of her husband who is wheelchair bond and had a major stroke a few years back. She’s only in her early 50s but her husband is totally incapable of doing anything for himself he’s totally paralyzed. I’m not saying that would happen but health issues would come up. I guess I feel it’s just better to have been born in the same era as your spouse. Just because you love someone doesn’t mean they are the best match for you.
 
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