Mary Mediatrix of All Graces

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See the words of Pope Leo XIII, posted above, in re said boundaries. He is crystal clear what the boundary is.
 
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Actually there are none for her. That is why she is called “Wider than the Heavens”.
 
So by that logic, worship is okay, as well as neglecting Christ for her.
 
Being too concerned about whether Mary is worthy of devotion?
Boundaries?

St. Maximilian:
"Listen to what St. Paul says in his letter to the faithful: ‘Even if an angel of heaven were to come and teach you something other than what I have taught you, let him be anathema!’ (Gal. 1:8-9). In the same way I repeat to you, if someone rises up among you who does not want to honor the most holy Mother in a special way, if he dissolves the close link that unites us to the Immaculate and teaches you something else than what I have taught you, let him be anathema…. We believe that the Immaculate exists and that she leads us to our Lord Jesus Christ, and if someone teaches otherwise, let him be anathema! Let him be anathema!”
(Let Yourself Be Led by the Immaculate)

So that’s pretty harsh for my taste, but who am I?
 
A secular definition of the word. Please read Pope Leo XIII’s words.
 
NJada said:
Being too concerned about whether Mary is worthy of devotion?
Boundaries?

St. Maximilian:
"Listen to what St. Paul says in his letter to the faithful: ‘Even if an angel of heaven were to come and teach you something other than what I have taught you, let him be anathema!’ (Gal. 1:8-9). In the same way I repeat to you, if someone rises up among you who does not want to honor the most holy Mother in a special way, if he dissolves the close link that unites us to the Immaculate and teaches you something else than what I have taught you, let him be anathema…. We believe that the Immaculate exists and that she leads us to our Lord Jesus Christ, and if someone teaches otherwise, let him be anathema! Let him be anathema!”
(Let Yourself Be Led by the Immaculate)

So that’s pretty harsh for my taste, but who am I?
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And a pretty unrelated quotation if you ask me.
 
That’s the definition Paul had in mind in 1st Timothy and Hebrews when he spoke of how Jesus was High Priest.
 
Lol. How old are you? Maybe with age you will begin to understand, because I feel like I’m talking to my JW family right now.
 
Paul had a modern English web dictionary? Wow, learn something new every day!
 
I was going to ask, what was the point of the definition?
But I figured that would cause a distraction.
Okay, what is the point of the definition? What point does it make?
Agathon said:
So by that logic, worship is okay, as well as neglecting Christ for her.
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That’s just messed up. Nobody said that, or implies it in any way. I can’t read your mind or your heart, but I have a very hard time believing you’re not purposely misunderstanding what people are saying.
I don’t even know how to begin to respond to that. I should probably just leave.
 
That’s a very cheap shot! And UTTERLY
uncharitable.
 
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Not something I would expect to hear from a Roman Catholic, that’s for sure.
 
Once again, May 31st is the Mass of Mary Mediatrix of all Graces. 'Nuff said!
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Well, debates rarely cause anyone to immediately change their mind, but can have fruitful results when we all think about the points that were made. So let’s trust God’s Providence is at work in all this, one way or another, and that we are led to deeper love for the Most Holy Trinity and the Blessed Virgin. I’m sorry if I have been at all uncharitable in my approach. I think that will be the end of my part in this conversation.

Ave Maria!
God bless you all!
 
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If both premises are true, then the conclusion is true. Do you reject that Mary is Mediatrix?
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Ummm that’s not how it works…

Both premises have to be sound and valid.

Because you do not appear to have a term common to each premise, the conclusion is, by rule, invalid.
 
Nope. I’ve already shown that both premises are sound and valid. You appear to have trouble with the truth of one of them. So I’ll ask again,
Do you accept or reject that Mary is Mediatrix? That’s a simple yes or no answer.
 
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Nope.
Do you accept or reject that Mary is Mediatrix? That’s a simple yes or no answer.
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Cool, then it’s not being decided by logical device - but rather a blunt, axiomatic declarative.

Not the same things, obviously.
 
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