Mary Mediatrix of All Graces

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No it really isn’t open to discussion. Mary is Mediatrix, and therefore she is Mediatrix of all graces flowing from Christ. Pope Leo XIII says it perfectly. I’ll post it again:

"So Pope Leo XIII, Iucunda semper, said:

“… when He [the Father] has been invoked with excellent prayers, our humble voice turns to Mary; in accordance with no other law than that law of conciliation and petition which was expressed as follows by St. Bernardine of Siena : ‘Every grace that is communicated to this world has a threefold course. For by excellent order, it is dispensed from God to Christ, from Christ to the Virgin, from the Virgin to us.’”

http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/marya4.htm

“every grace,” I.e. ALL graces.
 
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anon10271182 said:
I think the word “Christ” is rather clear and unambiguous.
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Lol, it’s the other terms that are nebulous.

Give a more standardized form a shot where these ideas must be condensed down into a letter (feel free to NOT use boolean operators)

(Some/All/None)X’s (sometimes/always/never)(are/aren’t) Y’s/Non-Y’s. [Note: I might be a bit off in the presentation, but you get the general idea.]

In order for your syllogism to work, the frist and second premise must contain the same term. X or Y has to overlap between premises.

They don’t. Or I don’t think they do. Maybe you can explain it.
 
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So do you accept that both premises are true? Or do you simply reject #2?
 
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And they were certainly far more theologically deep than I am. As was St. Thomas Aquinas, of course, to whom I owe my syllogistic reasoning.
 
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What I understand is that there is no other name beside the name of Jesus by which we can be saved.
 
The connecting word is the conjunction, “and.”

Do you reject that Mary is Mediatrix?
 
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anon10271182 said:
The connecting word is the conjunction, “and.”

Do you reject that Mary is Mediatrix?
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No no, you’re not understanding.

In your two premises you’re saying “Christ is S” and “Mary is M” and then trying to draw a conclusion.

Problem - none of the terms intersect. You must have a common logical term between premises to attempt to draw a conclusion.

You don’t have one here.
 
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This is true. No one can replace Jesus.

The point about the Holy Virgin, is that no one can replace her, now that God has chosen this way in creating. Theoretically, God could have done something different, but He did not do something different. There is no point in thinking of what ifs when it comes to these matters that we should be afraid of questioning God’s choices. He chose the Holy Virgin as the holiest of all creation and the passage from which God entered creation, we are supposed to be in fear and in awe at the mystery, not compare her to God as if they are in competition somehow.
 
Brittany said:
I haven’t voted because I’m not sure. She’s definitely mediatrix of some graces, but what about the graces we get from the sacraments? Do those go through her to get to us as well? I haven’t learned much on this subject.
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Or the graces we receive from any act of mercy!
 
Is it that people think there’s a competition?
If someone is wary that Mary as Mediatrix of All Graces diminishes or denies Christ’s unique Mediation, or that there is some inherent contradiction, you might take a look at the above article: It’s based on the thought of Bl. Duns Scotus, one of the greatest Marian theologians of our Church, it’s all about the Absolute Primacy of Christ, and still the article is not afraid to conclude: “With and subordinate to Christ the one Mediator, the Immaculate is absolutely predestined as Mediatrix of all graces.” No contradiction here. Why not check it out and maybe see how that fits together.
This incredible title of hers does the exact opposite of diminish the honor due to Jesus. But dishonoring Mary is dishonoring Jesus.

If anyone is wary of the title “Mediatrix of All Graces,” and doesn’t entirely accept it since it hasn’t been settled by the Church, and while Saints, Popes, and the Liturgy affirm it, they are being cautious and don’t figure they have the learning to say one way or the other until the Church officially declares it dogma–I can understand that.
But to say, “Nope, I’m allowed to not believe it, since it isn’t official dogma, so I reject it.”–Why?
Why?
Why not just say, “I don’t know”?
 
If both premises are true, then the conclusion is true. Do you reject that Mary is Mediatrix?
 
NJada said:
Why?
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We have One and although others may intercede, only Christ is true God and true Man.

Check the definition of mediator on the web.

me·di·a·tor
ˈmēdēˌādər/Submit
noun
a person who attempts to make people involved in a conflict come to an agreement; a go-between.
 
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May 31st is listed in The Daily Missal and Liturgical Manual as the Mass of Our Lady Mediatrix of all Graces.
That’s the Summorum Pontificum edition by the way. If someone doesn’t think that’s a valid Mass, they should take it up with Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI.
 
Agathon said:
We have One and although others may intercede, only Christ is true God and true Man.
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I agree.
If you consider the following quote from above article (which I recommend reading) to be a contradiction, can you explain why? That quote being: “With and subordinate to Christ the one Mediator, the Immaculate is absolutely predestined as Mediatrix of all graces.”

If not, why not just say, “I don’t know” to the matter?
 
I’ve posted the words of Pope Leo XIII twice now. He clearly found no contradiction between recognizing Christ as our Mediator and steering to Mary as Mediatrix. Pope Leo XIII states flatly that calling Mary Mediatrix detracts not one iota from our glorification of Christ. Not…one…iota.
 
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Yet it is sinful to deny Mary the devotion that she merits. To trivialize the importance of Marian devotion is problematic.
 
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