Mary was just a vessel

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
Bill, these questions were asked of you!!!

What question did you ask of me,I did not see any question that where ask of me, but feel free to ask ,we can start with the K of C

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
What Dokimas is trying to say is WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER AND CATHLOIC HE DID NOT EAT ANY MEAT AND HE DID NOT KNOW WHY So just help him with that and he will be OK, And we can work on the K of C later

Bill, I’ll do you the honor of answering you directly instead of in a foolish mannor like you are doing to me.

First, I WAS NEVER, a Catholic. That’s neither good nor bad; it’s correcting your incorrect statement. If I were you, I’d want to make sure I either corrected my wrong statements or not speak at all because we won’t know if you’re telling us truth.

You’ve challenge me for ‘hiding’ from questions. It is becoming more and more obvious to those of us observing you’re comments about me, you are the one hiding from ‘hard’ questions.

I think I can speak for at least some others that we hope you are having fun playing your games. This game playing brings into severe question whether you think a peon like myself is even worthing of being prayed for.

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
What question did you ask of me,I did not see any question that where ask of me, but feel free to ask ,we can start with the K of C

So you did see the question I asked about K of C. Quite an admission withing one sentence.

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
What question did you ask of me,I did not see any question that where ask of me, but feel free to ask ,we can start with the K of C

Let’s show you again so you can clearly see.

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Originally Posted by Dokimas
Bill, who gets mad? Maybe we all should pray for him?

Bill, these questions were asked of you!!!

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
I may have missed your answers to Scriptures I’ve posted that bring into question some of your understandings. If you’ve purposely not responded, maybe you should stop throwing stones when you live in a glass house.

First of all I do not throw stones, My Mother said it was bad so I do not do that, And my house is not glass, so you are WRONG on two things…,
Now what question are you talking about I have never seen a question from you to me so Please help me.
Are you talking about the Mother of Our Lord

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
First of all I do not throw stones, My Mother said it was bad so I do not do that, And my house is not glass, so you are WRONG on two things…,

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree and let any observes be the judge. I’m sure the observers understand the metaphor and it’s application here.

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree and let any observes be the judge. I’m sure the observers understand the metaphor and it’s application here.

Like Most of this board I do not know what you are talking about,if I can be of help please let me know

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
Like Most of this board I do not know what you are talking about,if I can be of help please let me know

Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.

I know I have trouble communicating often, but I think there are many, if not most, here that see what’s going on. Let me say it again, ‘you continue to be our proof.’

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

BTW, Bill, you said, ‘he gets mad.’ I asked you who gets mad. I’m still waiting for you so maybe we can help with the situation.

lil_flower_luv · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
I’ve pretty much answered this question as it was asked me of someone else but let me try again.
Let me answer it this way and I hate to do so because of how it sounds: Did the Holy Spirit have sex with Mary? Did Mary’s ovum get fertilized? If the answer to both those questions is NO (and my position would be NO) then she was the vessel chosen to bring God the Son into the world. That would make her a mom to the Son of God, not the Mother.
Even if the Holy Spirit use her ovum to make the Human Body Jesus inhabited, that would not make her the Mother of God, but the vessel of the Body God used while being Human. She did not help created God the Son, God was not created, even in the womb of Mary.

Dokimas said:
Are you saying Jesus was not Human? Jesus the Baby Human needed a mother; Jesus the Creator of the universe did not need a mother.
Of course, Jesus could have just appeared as Melchizadeck did, having not beginning or no end. God chose differently. Mary did not help create God the Son which is implied in the term ‘Mother of God’.

OF COURSE GOD DOES NOT NEED A MOTHER! But the fact that He chose to come to earth the way He did, through Mary, shows just how humble He is and how humble He wants us to be. And the fact that he even made Mary His Mother proves that she deserves to be honored and known as His Mother. God made it simple because it was meant to be interpreted that way.

Please get it right once and for all.

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

lil_flower_luv said:
OF COURSE GOD DOES NOT NEED A MOTHER! But the fact that He chose to come to earth the way He did, through Mary, shows just how humble He is and how humble He wants us to be. And the fact that he even made Mary His Mother proves that she deserves to be honored and known as His Mother. God made it simple because it was meant to be interpreted that way.

Please get it right once and for all.

Thank you.

Now could you pleas help Bill?

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.
I know I have trouble communicating often, but I think there are many, if not most, here that see what’s going on. Let me say it again, ‘you continue to be our proof.’

If you have a question please just ask the question,your not that good as a dancer LOL

lil_flower_luv · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
Thank you.
Now could you pleas help Bill?

It just seems to me, with you two going back and forth, you’re eating up all the possible posts for others, which will have this thread closed before you know it.

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
If you have a question please just ask the question,your not that good as a dancer LOL

It’s against my religion.

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

lil_flower_luv said:
It just seems to me, with you two going back and forth, you’re eating up all the possible posts for others, which will have this thread closed before you know it.

I’m doolie (sp???) corrected. TY. How about you, Bill?

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

lil_flower_luv said:
OF COURSE GOD DOES NOT NEED A MOTHER! But the fact that He chose to come to earth the way He did, through Mary, shows just how humble He is and how humble He wants us to be. And the fact that he even made Mary His Mother proves that she deserves to be honored and known as His Mother. God made it simple because it was meant to be interpreted that way.

Please get it right once and for all.

‘Mary was just a vessel’ That was the question I asnwer it and DoKmis answer And he said I was not answer ing any question he was asking I said I have not seen any question so what is all this all about…I think some one is making a lot to do about nothing,some one else said DoKimas was not answering any question,not me

Dokimas · Nov 1, 2009

Bill_Pick said:
Most of the time you ask him for a answer he will not answer, I think the questions get to hard

From Bill Pick: “bendict, I think you can see when DoKimas gets a hard question he goes into hiding,like the question about the K of C”

Bill Pick: “some one else said DoKimas was not answering any question,not me”

Bill, what’s going on?

bookgirl32 · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
Yes I’m sure.
Correct me if I’m wrong: what’s given to the congregants is the ‘host’. What is it made of? According to Wikipedia it is made of white flour, yeast salt and holy water.
Assuming that’s true – Question 1: where’s the wine (grape juice)? Question 2: The original Lord’s Supper/Last Supper was don’t prior to Passover. The chance that the bread used was unleavened is quite probable, thus without yeast.
My original question stands: If the bread and wine are really to become the Body and Blood of Jesus then why are the elements that Jesus used and spoke the famous words over, not used in your church?

Man, you’re really reaching. First of all, the wine is there, and it’s real wine, not grape juice. Second of all, the “host” is exactly that, unleavened bread. So . . . they are used in our Church!

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

Dokimas said:
Bill, what’s going on?

Ireally Do Not know,may be you can tell me.
Did you say I was not answering your question,well if that is the case please show the post # and I can find the post.

Bill_Pick · Nov 1, 2009

bookgirl32 said:
Man, you’re really reaching. First of all, the wine is there, and it’s real wine, not grape juice. Second of all, the “host” is exactly that, unleavened bread. So . . . they are used in our Church!

This may be part of the Problem,the thread is about ‘Mary was just a vessel’ And DoKimas is talking about the Eucharist
I think that is a little off thread

Mary was just a vessel

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Bill, I’ll do you the honor of answering you directly instead of in a foolish mannor like you are doing to me.​

First, I WAS NEVER, a Catholic. That’s neither good nor bad; it’s correcting your incorrect statement. If I were you, I’d want to make sure I either corrected my wrong statements or not speak at all because we won’t know if you’re telling us truth.​

You’ve challenge me for ‘hiding’ from questions. It is becoming more and more obvious to those of us observing you’re comments about me, you are the one hiding from ‘hard’ questions.​

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Quote: Originally Posted by Dokimas​

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Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.​

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I’ve pretty much answered this question as it was asked me of someone else but let me try again.​

Are you saying Jesus was not Human? Jesus the Baby Human needed a mother; Jesus the Creator of the universe did not need a mother.​

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Thank you.​

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Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.​

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Thank you.​

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Yes I’m sure.​

Correct me if I’m wrong: what’s given to the congregants is the ‘host’. What is it made of? According to Wikipedia it is made of white flour, yeast salt and holy water.​

Assuming that’s true – Question 1: where’s the wine (grape juice)? Question 2: The original Lord’s Supper/Last Supper was don’t prior to Passover. The chance that the bread used was unleavened is quite probable, thus without yeast.​

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Bill, I’ll do you the honor of answering you directly instead of in a foolish mannor like you are doing to me.

First, I WAS NEVER, a Catholic. That’s neither good nor bad; it’s correcting your incorrect statement. If I were you, I’d want to make sure I either corrected my wrong statements or not speak at all because we won’t know if you’re telling us truth.

You’ve challenge me for ‘hiding’ from questions. It is becoming more and more obvious to those of us observing you’re comments about me, you are the one hiding from ‘hard’ questions.

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Originally Posted by Dokimas

Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.

I’ve pretty much answered this question as it was asked me of someone else but let me try again.

Are you saying Jesus was not Human? Jesus the Baby Human needed a mother; Jesus the Creator of the universe did not need a mother.

Thank you.

Ah, hiding from ‘hard’ statements/questions. You continue to be our proof.

Thank you.

Yes I’m sure.

Correct me if I’m wrong: what’s given to the congregants is the ‘host’. What is it made of? According to Wikipedia it is made of white flour, yeast salt and holy water.

Assuming that’s true – Question 1: where’s the wine (grape juice)? Question 2: The original Lord’s Supper/Last Supper was don’t prior to Passover. The chance that the bread used was unleavened is quite probable, thus without yeast.