Mass. Bishops to oppose adoption by gays

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An article in the Boston Globe this morning says that Massachusetts bishops will oppose the adoption by any gay couples. Heretofore, Catholic Charities of Boston had allowed a small number of gay couples to adopt per state policy. This is definitely the right thing to do by the bishops and it should be supported. Unfortunately, there’s many in the Church (including high profile Catholic businessman who sit on Catholic Charities board) who adamantly oppose the bishops on this matter and are very vocal about it. It also puts at risk Catholic Charities ability to continue adoptions due to a violation of a discrimination policy. The bishops need to continue to stand firm and uphold the truth no matter what!

boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/02/16/bishops_to_oppose_adoption_by_gays/
 
Pray for the Bishops and pray that those on the board, if in fact they are Catholic, come to live their faith in accord with the doctrines of the Holy Mother Church.

The studies used by organizations to make gay adoptions legal are quite faulty and do not use good scientific methods but are accepted freely in order to get these “anti-discrimination” laws on the books.

Children should not be pay the price for this kind of social engineering.
 
I have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on the adoption process but I was wondering does the biological mother or biological parent’s have any say in who and what kind of people their child is adopted by? ** If the biological parent consented only to a heterosexual couple adopting their baby would Catholic Charities still have to go against those wishes because of the law and adopt out to a gay couple?** If it is possible for biological parents to say and who they want to adopt their baby then maybe Catholic Charities wouldn’t have to discriminate against gays they could start handling only the adoptions where the biological parents signed a consent form requesting that their baby only be adopted by a heterosexual couple or individual.
 
God bless these Bishops! I hope they hold to their faith on this one. Let’s pray for them. It’s a sad testament to our USCCB that I, and I think more than a few others were wondering how our Bishops would react to this situation.

How can we write and show our support to these men? Should we write to these particular Bishops or the USCCB??

I think they need to hear from as many of us as possible!
 
Suppose an ex-gay and an ex-lesbian were to marry but couldn’t have children of their own. Would they be permitted to adopt?
 
Good for the bishops in opposing the abuse of the child to adopted by gays. The misinforming of their conscience about sexual relations is a grave abuse to be avoid and prevented wherever possible.
 
I agree in opposing adoption by homosexual couples but I would also want to forbid divorced and remarried couples from adopting also because that would send a signal to children that adultery is okay.
 
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Riley259:
The bishops in Massachusetts were dealt a setback in their push to ban gay adoptions. See story:

boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/02/17/bishops_dealt_setback_in_pursuit_of_gay_adoption_exemption/
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Of course the correct thing to do is defy the State and if it pulls their adoption icense so be it. But i suspect, like the Archdiocses of San Francisco they will meely back down and put money before doctrine.

The Church teaches emphatically that homosexual behavior is gravely disorderd and a grevious sin. And yet the place children with homosexual couples?? As far as their board opposing the ban-they reap what they sow-the Archdiocese Boston has always pandered to the Boston Catholic elite-even when they openly defy Church teaching. Where else but Boston could two prr-abortion so called Catholic Senators still be in full cmmunion with the Church?
 
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goofyjim:
I agree in opposing adoption by homosexual couples but I would also want to forbid divorced and remarried couples from adopting also because that would send a signal to children that adultery is okay.
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What makes you think that all divorced and remarried couples were guilty of adultery? I would, however, support a ban on allowing a heterosexual couple who was shacking up from adopting.
 
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estesbob:
What makes you think that all divorced and remarried couples were guilty of adultery? I would, however, support a ban on allowing a heterosexual couple who was shacking up from adopting.
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Well, at least within the Catholic Church, if there is no annulment then I would assume they would be setting just as bad an example.

Why does noone ever understand my arguments. I do not support the homosexual lifestyle but I cannot sit back and see them dragged through the mud while we lightly pass over all other sexual offenses. I believe they will all carry equal weight. That may or may not be within church teaching but then I guess that makes me unique.
 
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goofyjim:
Well, at least within the Catholic Church, if there is no annulment then I would assume they would be setting just as bad an example.

Why does noone ever understand my arguments. I do not support the homosexual lifestyle but I cannot sit back and see them dragged through the mud while we lightly pass over all other sexual offenses. I believe they will all carry equal weight. That may or may not be within church teaching but then I guess that makes me unique.
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Nobody is dragging them through the mud-unless you feel adhering to Church teaching is dragging people through the mud. And what sexual offenses are being lightly passed over?
 
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estesbob:
Nobody is dragging them through the mud-unless you feel adhering to Church teaching is dragging people through the mud. And what sexual offenses are being lightly passed over?
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There are endless sexual offenses. I never was in support of divorce and remarriage. Unless the Church grants an annulment there should be no remarriage but how many listen to that today. The Church teaching is on sexual behavior not sexual orientation. There is no teaching that says the orientation is sinful. But this is getting off topic.
 
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goofyjim:
Why does noone ever understand my arguments. I do not support the homosexual lifestyle but I cannot sit back and see them dragged through the mud while we lightly pass over all other sexual offenses. I believe they will all carry equal weight. That may or may not be within church teaching but then I guess that makes me unique.
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I believe it’s getting to be the other way around now. I live in So Cal and many people treat gays much better than they would someone who is divorced or having an affair. I think homosexuals are treated pretty equally especially if they are in a committed relationship and have children. The reasoning behind this mentality: "Homosexuals are born that way they can’t help it."
 
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I believe it’s getting to be the other way around now. I live in So Cal and many people treat gays much better than they would someone who is divorced or having an affair. I think homosexuals are treated pretty equally especially if they are in a committed relationship and have children. The reasoning behind this mentality: "Homosexuals are born that way they can’t help it."
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The truth is that the number of commited homosexual couples that have children is miniscule. I suspect that in Boston the number of homosexual couples wanting to adopt is mimiscule also. What homosexual activists want is the RIGHT top marry and the RIGHT to adopt. As we have seen in states and countries that have leaglized this very, ,very few homosexuals take advantage of these new found rights.
 
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GloriaPatri4:
I have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on the adoption process but I was wondering does the biological mother or biological parent’s have any say in who and what kind of people their child is adopted by? ** If the biological parent consented only to a heterosexual couple adopting their baby would Catholic Charities still have to go against those wishes because of the law and adopt out to a gay couple?** If it is possible for biological parents to say and who they want to adopt their baby then maybe Catholic Charities wouldn’t have to discriminate against gays they could start handling only the adoptions where the biological parents signed a consent form requesting that their baby only be adopted by a heterosexual couple or individual.
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They are giving up the kid. As far as I know they will go to whoever wualifies as good parents.

And yes, I already know that to most of you, “homosexual” automatically means “bad parent”.
 
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goofyjim:
I agree in opposing adoption by homosexual couples but I would also want to forbid divorced and remarried couples from adopting also because that would send a signal to children that adultery is okay.
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Er…just because you divorce and remarry does not mean you were unfaithful. What if you meet your second spouse five years after divorcing the first?
 
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Liberalsaved:
Er…just because you divorce and remarry does not mean you were unfaithful. What if you meet your second spouse five years after divorcing the first?
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Depends if you want to conform to Cathoic teachings. If you met your 2nd spouse 40 yrs after you divorce your 1st spouse, you still are considered married to yr 1st spouse if you were married in the Catholic church.

Also, the Catholic (and many Protestant) churches teach that gay men are called to life long chastity. That means no relaxing another guy and holding hands. Or sitting in park with another guy and thinking how good it is to be with someone you love. It means you are to be alone for yr entire life. And no sex. No romantic love. Nothing. And if you are lucky, yr fellow religious might take pity on you and talk to you. As long as you don’t go near their kids. Cuz all homosexuals are potential molesters. Even the Christian ones. Sounds lovely, doesn’t it.
 
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MikeinSD:
Depends if you want to conform to Cathoic teachings. If you met your 2nd spouse 40 yrs after you divorce your 1st spouse, you still are considered married to yr 1st spouse if you were married in the Catholic church.

Also, the Catholic (and many Protestant) churches teach that gay men are called to life long chastity. That means no relaxing another guy and holding hands. Or sitting in park with another guy and thinking how good it is to be with someone you love. It means you are to be alone for yr entire life. And no sex. No romantic love. Nothing. And if you are lucky, yr fellow religious might take pity on you and talk to you. As long as you don’t go near their kids. Cuz all homosexuals are potential molesters. Even the Christian ones. Sounds lovely, doesn’t it.
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Sounds horrible. Someone else just appraised me of the divorce=adultery thing. I didn’t even know, I’ve never known a Catholic to actually practice it.
 
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MikeinSD:
Depends if you want to conform to Cathoic teachings. If you met your 2nd spouse 40 yrs after you divorce your 1st spouse, you still are considered married to yr 1st spouse if you were married in the Catholic church.
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Unless you seek an annulment. If it means that much to you, you will.
Also, the Catholic (and many Protestant) churches teach that gay men are called to life long chastity.
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They also call pyromaniacs to life long restraint, as well as alcoholics, nymphomaniacs (outside of marriage), pedophiles, cleptomaniacs, and anyone else who has an inherent desire to engage in disordered/sinful activity.
That means no relaxing another guy and holding hands.
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I hold my son’s hand - is that against Church teaching?
Or sitting in park with another guy and thinking how good it is to be with someone you love.
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I love my son and would sit with him in the park thinking how good it is to be with him - is this also against Church teaching? Is there a Catechism reference for this, or are you making things upon the fly?
It means you are to be alone for yr entire life.
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Nope - it means you’re called to hold something higher than your own personal gratification, and to do so in the context of the family that is the Church. Alone is only self-imposed if you’re a Catholic.
And no sex.
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Correction - no homosexual sex.
No romantic love.
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CCC reference, please?
As long as you don’t go near their kids. Cuz all homosexuals are potential molesters. Even the Christian ones. Sounds lovely, doesn’t it.
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Sounds like the life of a priest, those holy servants of the faithful…or don’t you want to bear the cross you are given? Is it too tough for the grace of God to sustain you? Is it more sacrafice than God is worth? Let’s not be too hard on the Church here…some of the pain is self-wrought.

God Bless,
RyanL
 
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