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JOHNYJ
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Considering the lousy job the Catholic church in Massachusetts has done when it comes to children. That they would say anything is a surprise.
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Bella3502
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You can’t convince those who don’t know the truth, so stop trying.
There are 2 gay couples in our parish. They have children of their own, and adopted ones as well. They are in church every Sunday. Several of the children attend Catholic school where their parents fully participate. The adoptions were legal in every way.
Anybody can quote and interpret scripture… But in the end, actions speak louder than words.
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fix
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Is that what is known as cognitive dissonance? We now have “gay” persons claiming to be authentic parents attending a Catholic parish while rejecting the authority of the Church.
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Orionthehunter
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Is today your day to be the Magisterium or is this a position you hold for life/into eternity? Do I ever get my day? When you take a day off?
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Riley259
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I appreciate that these are probably good people who are sincere in their efforts. However, as practicing Catholics,they have a moral obligation to inform themselves about the truth and what the Church teaches and no matter how you slice it, it’s not morally licit. Legal does not necessarily mean morally correct - look at the abortion issue for an example of that.
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Bella3502
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I agree.
I haven’t had a lot of conversation about specifics with either couple. Mainly cause I don’t care. I only got to know one of the couples because their children are friends with my sister’s kids.
I really don’t see any difference between their morals and those of Catholics who use birth control.
Hmmmm who is more Catholic? The gay couples who don’t use birth control or the majority of Catholic couples who do use it?
And if Gays being around children is such a bad thing, then shouldn’t there be a law against them having their own? If a gay woman has a baby, perhaps that baby should be forcibly removed from her care at birth, unless she swears to lead a chaste heterosexual life… After all, just being gay automatically makes the person a bad parent. I don’t believe this, but I know a lot of folk do.
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Elzee
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Judges 21:25 - “And every man did what was right in his own eyes”.
It led to disaster for Israel, and it’s still true today.
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fix
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Yes, in the sense that the law should not allow adults with serious disorders to care for kids. Are biologic children not removed from troubled homes currently under certain conditions?
Perhaps the child should be removed if such a parent insists upon forcing a disordered way of acting on an impressionable child. If a parent has an emotional probelm that seriously afftects their child is it right and fair not to intervene? Does the child have no rights?
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Liberalsaved
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Talking is a good way to make up for not acting.
What things have they done wrong? I don’t doubt you or beleive you particularly, I just don’t know. Or is this more abuse cases?
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iserve
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For years bishops all over the US have turned away while “Catholic” agencies under their control were doing all sorts of things that are morally incoherent. This runs the gamut from condoms and birth control, adoption by gay and lesbian persons, and openly homosexual employees all the way to employees drivng clients to abortions and working in abortion clinics in their time off (these latter have both occured in MA, with the full knowlege of Catholic officials). Now, suddenly, when thousands of Catholics have financially abandoned them, they get . . . . *religion?
*Maybe this is because they are now loathe to realize what their incompetence and bad judgement have netted them, and this is a great publicity move to attract faithful back into the pews and opening their checkbooks. And before these folks do that, they better realize that up to 80% (RCAB) of their Catholic agencies’ money has come from their taxpayer dollars to do the will of the state, not the Church. They liked this just fine until the scandals drove the complacent in the pews into an information-seeking frenzy, and they didn’t like what they saw.
As for me, the jury is still out, and it will be a long while before I will have any trust in bishops’ public policy pleas. Too many mistakes in judgement that I have personally witness by two of them (as a diocesan employee) for me to give a pass so easily.
*Maybe this is because they are now loathe to realize what their incompetence and bad judgement have netted them, and this is a great publicity move to attract faithful back into the pews and opening their checkbooks. And before these folks do that, they better realize that up to 80% (RCAB) of their Catholic agencies’ money has come from their taxpayer dollars to do the will of the state, not the Church. They liked this just fine until the scandals drove the complacent in the pews into an information-seeking frenzy, and they didn’t like what they saw.
As for me, the jury is still out, and it will be a long while before I will have any trust in bishops’ public policy pleas. Too many mistakes in judgement that I have personally witness by two of them (as a diocesan employee) for me to give a pass so easily.
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rlg94086
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Don’t make silly generalizations like that…
From a conservative who got the joke and also chuckled.
MikeinSD:
From a conservative who got the joke and also chuckled.
Monty Python is neither watched nor appreciated by most conservatives. Made me spew beer out my nose though.
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Bella3502
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Yes, in the sense that the law should not allow adults with serious disorders to care for kids. Are biologic children not removed from troubled homes currently under certain conditions?
Perhaps the child should be removed if such a parent insists upon forcing a disordered way of acting on an impressionable child. If a parent has an emotional probelm that seriously afftects their child is it right and fair not to intervene? Does the child have no rights?
Children do have rights. But who gets to determine which ones are in bad homes… definitely not the Catholic Church. There are far more children in bad situations with straight parents. I believe that would be a better starting point.
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