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I hope to be front and center in the future, all six of us. But it takes patience and time. Tim
 
Nordar said:
Somehow I knew that you would say that and that is sad.
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It’s sad to pray for parents who’ve been described here by some posters as “overwhelmed” and “horribly embarrassed” and who may be having a tough time because I don’t know what’s “in their hearts?” If these parents are so overwhelmed that they can’t handle problems like this on their own, they NEED prayers.
 
Faith1960 said:
I have but don’t plan to make it a habit because the pews I sit in are often filled up then and I have to sit somewhere else, often where I can’t see, which is ridiculous considering I’M not the one offending people left and right. 😃 I suspect our priests are getting a bit tired of racket during Mass so we’ll see what happens.
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Well, if it the responsiblity of the troubled child/parent to make you happy, maybe you should talk to them. But if you choose to do nothing, then it is the same as hitting your own hand with a hammer hoping that someone else feels the pain.

I will say a rosary for you tonight 🙂
 
awindrose said:
Well, if it the responsiblity of the troubled child/parent to make you happy, maybe you should talk to them. But if you choose to do nothing, then it is the same as hitting your own hand with a hammer hoping that someone else feels the pain.

I will say a rosary for you tonight 🙂
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Thank you. :tiphat:
 
Faith1960 said:
It’s sad to pray for parents who’ve been described here by some posters as “overwhelmed” and “horribly embarrassed” and who may be having a tough time because I don’t know what’s “in their hearts?” If these parents are so overwhelmed that they can’t handle problems like this on their own, they NEED prayers.
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No Faith that is not what I meant when I said that is sad, but then you know that, don’t you? You really do seem to have a way of avoiding pointing the finger at yourself don’t you? I did not say it was sad to pray for the parents did I ? What I said was that maybe YOU could say a Rosary to Our Blessed Mother to pray for Tolerance. What I said was sad was That YOU were still pointing the finger at others, that Others were in NEED of prayers. But Faith YOU are the one who is complaining, YOU should go buy… The Story Of A Soul St Therese of Luesiux
 
Nordar said:
No Faith that is not what I meant when I said that is sad, but then you know that, don’t you? You really do seem to have a way of avoiding pointing the finger at yourself don’t you? I did not say it was sad to pray for the parents did I ? What I said was that maybe YOU could say a Rosary to Our Blessed Mother to pray for Tolerance. What I said was sad was That YOU were still pointing the finger at others, that Others were in NEED of prayers. But Faith YOU are the one who is complaining, YOU should go buy… The Story Of A Soul St Therese of Luesiux
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I’m not the parent sitting there, allowing my children to be disruptive and inconsiderate of others. I’m the one sitting there, praying to the Lord, listening to the priest, singing hymns, watching the consecration and receiving the Eucharist. You know, doing what I came there to do, doing what I’m supposed to be doing. 😉

Last weekend when Pumpkin was acting up big time and apparently choked during his Mass time junk food binge (which never would have happened had he not been scarfing up junk during Mass), I got there early because I’d gone to confession prior to Mass. There were 4 adults in charge of, and unwilling to handle two small children, (in addition to the parents, there were two older people with them) and it wasn’t until near the end of Mass before Mommy decided to start taking Pumpkin’s noisemakers away. Since he had a pencil or something while playing with the missle, I wouldn’t be surprised if he used that as his personal scribble/coloring book, too. Nobody even cared enough to remove him from the church UNTIL he was choking and gagging all over the place. So, yeah, my finger is pointed at those unwilling to do their job as parents. There’s no need for me to be pointing the finger at myself since it would be ludicrous for me to shoulder the blame when I, along with other parishioners, are the ones who are doing what we’re supposed to be doing.
But…how very judgemental of you for suggesting otherwise. 😃
 
Nordar said:
No Faith that is not what I meant when I said that is sad, but then you know that, don’t you? You really do seem to have a way of avoiding pointing the finger at yourself don’t you? I did not say it was sad to pray for the parents did I ? What I said was that maybe YOU could say a Rosary to Our Blessed Mother to pray for Tolerance. What I said was sad was That YOU were still pointing the finger at others, that Others were in NEED of prayers. But Faith YOU are the one who is complaining, YOU should go buy… The Story Of A Soul St Therese of Luesiux
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And how do you explain it to the Special Needs kids that go off on other’s misbehavior?
 
Faith1960 said:
At least you try sitting in the back of the church instead of bringing them up in the middle or front of everyone. That shows some consideration on your part and it’s appreciated, I’m sure.
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I was told by a Priest to sit up front and center with children. It gives them something to watch. If you sit in the back, all they can see is the back of person in front of them. Not the place to be. Not the place to learn what is going on.

Sit up front those of you with young children. It helped my son to concentrate on the Mass.
 
TOP said:
I have a hard time with one of my twins. He “acts up” during Mass. So we usually sit in the back of the church. During Mass, I try to teach by example and I only give a glare when needed. This may come across as though I am ignoring my children. You see, before I was a believer, I was an abusive husband and father. Being passive towards my children is part of my penace. For me, there is more at stake then just offending a few people. I have been warned by the Lord not to cross the line and believe my life depends on it. Just a thought, Tim
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Tim, God Bless you.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. I give my kids “the look” too. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, but the parents that I’m talking about are totally lost in prayer. Not even a glance.

You are trying and have your own cross to bear. All the best in your journey.
 
Faith1960 said:
I’m not the parent sitting there, allowing my children to be disruptive and inconsiderate of others. I’m the one sitting there, praying to the Lord, listening to the priest, singing hymns, watching the consecration and receiving the Eucharist. You know, doing what I came there to do, doing what I’m supposed to be doing. 😉

Last weekend when Pumpkin was acting up big time and apparently choked during his Mass time junk food binge (which never would have happened had he not been scarfing up junk during Mass), I got there early because I’d gone to confession prior to Mass. There were 4 adults in charge of, and unwilling to handle two small children, (in addition to the parents, there were two older people with them) and it wasn’t until near the end of Mass before Mommy decided to start taking Pumpkin’s noisemakers away. Since he had a pencil or something while playing with the missle, I wouldn’t be surprised if he used that as his personal scribble/coloring book, too. Nobody even cared enough to remove him from the church UNTIL he was choking and gagging all over the place. So, yeah, my finger is pointed at those unwilling to do their job as parents. There’s no need for me to be pointing the finger at myself since it would be ludicrous for me to shoulder the blame when I, along with other parishioners, are the ones who are doing what we’re supposed to be doing.
But…how very judgemental of you for suggesting otherwise. 😃
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It is not judgemental to suggest you point the finger at yourself that is not a judgement it is only a suggestion. There is a difference.
 
Nordar said:
You are speaking to the wrong person here I have a Bi Polar ADHD child so your on the wrong soap box. And what you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with what I had originally posted.
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Yes it does. You told Faith to pray for tolerance. So how do you get your special needs child to behave when parents allow theirs to disrupt? How do you teach them to be tolerant?

Go back and read post 204. Try doing it with four kids, one with Autism, one with Aspergers, a four year old and a newborn. Read that story, then we can talk.
 
Nordar said:
It is not judgemental to suggest you point the finger at yourself that is not a judgement it is only a suggestion. There is a difference.
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Oh. Well. Then. I’m not judging those kinds of parents, I’m just suggesting they start doing their jobs as parents. 🙂
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
Yes it does. You told Faith to pray for tolerance. So how do you get your special needs child to behave when parents allow theirs to disrupt? How do you teach them to be tolerant?

Go back and read post 204. Try doing it with four kids, one with Autism, one with Aspergers, a four year old and a newborn. Read that story, then we can talk.
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Could you please change your tone? And no it does not have anything to do with my post, I do not understand what is so hard to understand.

You said…You told Faith to pray for tolerance, Yes I did.

You asked me. How do you get them to be tolerant? I never said anything about teaching anyone to be tolerant. What does that have to do with me telling Faith to pray for tolerance?

I AM NOT the one who has the problem with the disruptive children. So I do not have to go back to post 204 to talk about anything. .
 
Nordar said:
Could you please change your tone?
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My tone?
Nordar said:
so your on the wrong soap box.
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And no it does not have anything to do with my post, I do not understand what is so hard to understand.
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You said…You told Faith to pray for tolerance, Yes I did.
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You asked me. How do you get them to be tolerant? I never said anything about teaching anyone to be tolerant. What does that have to do with me telling Faith to pray for tolerance?
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I AM NOT the one who has the problem with the disruptive children. So I do not have to go back to post 204 to talk about anything. .
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Oh well maybe if you actually READ the story of DJRakowski and how parents who let disruptive children do what they want, set his kids off, you would understand. Just simply stating that someone should be tolerant, doesn’t help them at all.

When someone lets his/her child continue to be disruptive, it disturbs more than “intolerant” adults.

THAT is the point.
 
Nordar said:
Could you please change your tone? And no it does not have anything to do with my post, I do not understand what is so hard to understand.

You said…You told Faith to pray for tolerance, Yes I did.

You asked me. How do you get them to be tolerant? I never said anything about teaching anyone to be tolerant. What does that have to do with me telling Faith to pray for tolerance?

I AM NOT the one who has the problem with the disruptive children. So I do not have to go back to post 204 to talk about anything. .
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A lot of people (not just here) have no problem with disruptive children. LOL. Years ago, we permanently stopped hanging out with one couple who had wild kids and temporarily stopped hanging out with another couple for the same reason. Now that their two older kids are teenagers and don’t go out with us anymore and the youngest is well mannered, we’ve resumed the friendship.
 
maryjk said:
I was told by a Priest to sit up front and center with children. It gives them something to watch. If you sit in the back, all they can see is the back of person in front of them. Not the place to be. Not the place to learn what is going on.

Sit up front those of you with young children. It helped my son to concentrate on the Mass.
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I agree that the front is the best place for kids for that very reason. They are less bored because they can see what’s going on. And that makes them less disruptive.
 
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