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If nothing else, it’s kind of funny that this is in the Social Justice subforum when masturbation is, if nothing else, a solitary activity.
If nothing else, it’s kind of funny that this is in the Social Justice subforum when masturbation is, if nothing else, a solitary activity.
Don’t put words in my mouth. I **never **said that passage was used by the Church to justify her teaching on masturbation. I did say that Jesus addressed the topic. Then the person asked where in the bible? To me that passage in context, can only be talking about masturbation. When you add the fact that Jesus seems to be quoting the Oral Torah passage dealing with masturbation (which would later become written down in the Talmud), the likelihood that Matthew 5:30 is referring to something other than masturbation, becomes exceedingly slim.I think that your reference is very obtuse, especially when the issue involves eternal damnation. I don’t contest the churches teaching on this issue, merely what you claim is part of the justification.
If Jesus taught explicitly on the subject, as you suggest is the case with the verse in question - why would the Church not invoke that in its teaching?Don’t put words in my mouth. I **never **said that passage was used by the Church to justify her teaching on masturbation. I did say that Jesus addressed the topic.
She does.If Jesus taught explicitly on the subject, as you suggest is the case with the verse in question - why would the Church not invoke that in its teaching?
Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.Did a little research but pleasuring oneself isn’t looked proudly upon from various religions. It is not based on any form of evidence just belief. Personally I find it a bit silly that enjoying ones body is harmful, especially supernaturally.
Straw man.Did a little research but pleasuring oneself isn’t looked proudly upon from various religions. It is not based on any form of evidence just belief. Personally I find it a bit silly that enjoying ones body is harmful, especially supernaturally.
How am I straw manning? How, exactly, is it “exclusively selfish”?Straw man.
Enjoying one’s body in an exclusively selfish way is harmful.
As it has been “at hand” for the last 2000 years?Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
So why did you deny it earlier?She does.
Paragraph 2352 falls within part three, section two, chapter two, article six of the CCC.
What passage of Scripture does the catechism quote at the the beginning of article six?
I will say that v.30 becomes clear when you realize how, or what category, the Jews of Jesus’ time viewed masturbation as falling into.
Can you tell me the number of my post from earlier where I deny that the Church uses this passage for justification?So why did you deny it earlier?
Have to ask. What about nocturnal emissions?How many times must we go over this? Yes, masturbation is a sin.
I sense that a lot of people who ask this question want to it, but are looking for a way to avoid the sin on a technicality. You can’t.
Perhaps I misunderstood post #129?Can you tell me the number of my post from earlier where I deny that the Church uses this passage for justification?
What would you like to know about them Kate?Have to ask. What about nocturnal emissions?
Sin or no?What would you like to know about them Kate?
Seriously? How does one sin while asleep?Sin or no?
Those are not the same thing.Have to ask. What about nocturnal emissions?
Sin has to involve choice. If your body does something spontaneously, it isn’t a choice.Have to ask. What about nocturnal emissions?
What is morality?Have to ask. What about nocturnal emissions?