Masturbation, is it good for you?

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PauloFreire2 said:
“Death is the biological norm too; that doesn’t give us the right to murder”

There’s a difference between dying and killing.
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And a difference between nocturnal emissions and masturbation.

The fact that we do this in our sleep indicates that nature has her own way of managing the need for ejaculation, one that does not subtract from our spouse or from our innate human dignity.
 
LittleDeb said:
As long as you disagree with a gentle heart, there is no harm in disagreeing. Disagreeing won’t get you banned. Only rude and inappropriate behavior will do that. Just pray and be thoughtful before you hit and your experience here at CAF will be wonderful, uplifting, and educational.

Our late Holy Father gave these wonderful talks called “Theology of the Body” from 1979-1984. He went into a very deep theology of Scripture. It was about the Truth written on our very bodies and souls. It is an amazing study. Pope John Paul II was a man who knew Scripture backwards and forward. If you’ve never heard of it or haven’t studied it, it is soooo worth it! He delves into understanding our amazing human dignity.

I cannot tell you how valuable I have found this theology. I discovered a lot of my previous struggles with the Church were rooted in my misunderstanding of basic human dignity and especially our sexuality. I used to believe secular society. Now I believe the Church. I cannot begin to tell you the joy it has brought to my life. Subjects like this one used to baffle me and make me uncomfortable because I had no real answers. A perusal of my posting history will show that is no longer the case.

Welcome! I hope your stay here is wonderful.
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Thank you. Yes, I will try to be very thoughtful, and I’ll try hard to be agreeable, too. Forgive me, though, whenever I fail to completely agree. I have a terrible fault that’s dogged me all my life. It has something to do with consistently speaking my mind, even though I know I’m expected to agree, comply and conform. I have often been scorned by various groups because of this tendency. No matter how hard Itry to overcome it, it persists. Please be patient. Thanks in advance.
 
PauloFreire2 said:
Thank you. Yes, I will try to be very thoughtful, and I’ll try hard to be agreeable, too. Forgive me, though, whenever I fail to completely agree. I have a terrible fault that’s dogged me all my life. It has something to do with consistently speaking my mind, even though I know I’m expected to agree, comply and conform. I have often been scorned by various groups because of this tendency. No matter how hard Itry to overcome it, it persists. Please be patient. Thanks in advance.
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Actually I think disagreement and constructive friendly arguments on this forum are very beneficial because it gives apologists the ability to build better arguments to defend the beliefs of the church. I’ve seen constructive arguments here that some protestant friends have made and the responses laid out here have helped me respond to my friends.
 
Thank you for your open-mindedness. Yes, we should always grant each other the courtesy of listening. If one’s beliefs are strong, the act of listening shouldn’t threaten them.
 
I’d probably have five years of life left in me if it weren’t for masturbation…
 
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Oxytocin is released in large amounts in breastfeeding women … if a woman breastfeeds multiple kids over many years… is she, too, ruined for future bonding with her mate??
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Late to this debate, but I found that quote interesting.

Absolutely not is my answer.  Sexual intercourse can release oxytocin in a woman, leading to bonding with a husband.  And breastfeeding bonds her with the children.  The two are not mutually exclusive.
 
Where in the New Testament does Jesus refer to the sin of homosexuality and self gratification ??
I need to know how to answer someone I know who asked me and is a practicing homosexual. and Lapsed Catholic.

thanks.

Also the chap who asked if masturbation is good for you. I would say No, and ask himself , what is the need for it. ? Also , I did hear sometime ago that this activity can damage the kidney’s .
How much truth there is in that, I can’t say as I am no medic.

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Damage the kidneys? Cripes…:eek:

That’s when you need to give it a rest, for sure. Ease down a few notches, the engines canna take nae more!

As I understand it by the RCC, yes, of course masturbation is a mortal sin. But more important is WHY does one feel the need for this sin? Speak closely with those you know in orders and the priesthood, if it is troubling you – I would not worry about shocking or displeasing them, though men may wish to speak with monks and women with nuns, and so forth, and their desire and ability to minister on such matters is as personal as anything in your life’s work, or such is my perception and understanding.
 
Transformer said:
And even furthermore, masturbation is not even strictly biologically healthy, it is phsyically harmful in some ways as well. Jason Evert points out in his main book that every time you ejaculate, your body produces slightly less oxytocin, the key hormone for emotional bonding in sex. A man who masturbated every day for 20 years and then married would have destroyed his ability to chemically-emotionally bond with his wife during sex.
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What I’d really like to know is can that oxytocin recover? Does it come back if you stop masturbating. I’m a guy, and like many guys, masturbation is a problem, and now I’m really scared that I’ve destroyed something really beautiful that I’ll never be able to expirience, and I’m only in my early twenties, yet to be married 😦

Please tell me I’ll be ok, I don’t want to live throu life in a marriage where I can’t be intimate.
 
goofyjim said:
Funny it never led me in that direction. It prevents me from going out and having promiscuous sex.
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The Church teaches that a lesser evil accepted in the place of a greater one is never permissable. With the Catholic Church it is either the whole truth or no truth; you cannot accept only the teachings you feel like following. Well, you could; but that would make you unable to experience the whole truth. 🤷
 
Here we go again… another “Big M” post…😦

OP… Do us a favor. Use the search function and type in the word masturbate or masturbation and read the results for about an hour (or days…)
 
Please tell me I’ll be ok, I don’t want to live throu life in a marriage where I can’t be intimate.
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To be honest with you, I don’t at all know the biology behind my claim; I base that argument entirely on Jason Evert’s trustworthiness and the medical citation he gave at the time.

I wouldn’t worry about this, Master. Work on this sin, certainly, but when you do overcome it, I suspect you’ll be fine in your future marriage. Sex may be slightly less intimate chemically, but that is only the tiniest fraction of what composes real intimacy.

God bless.
 
Transformer said:
To be honest with you, I don’t at all know the biology behind my claim; I base that argument entirely on Jason Evert’s trustworthiness and the medical citation he gave at the time.

I wouldn’t worry about this, Master. Work on this sin, certainly, but when you do overcome it, I suspect you’ll be fine in your future marriage. Sex may be slightly less intimate chemically, but that is only the tiniest fraction of what composes real intimacy.

God bless.
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I think it is in part based on just oxytocin in general, not just the diminishing aspect of it. Nursing mothers bond with their babies through oxytocin. If a mother nurses say 5 kids, it doesn’t mean she will necessarily bond less with the 5th. They were all her children. I think one of the major points behind the science in Jason Evert’s statement is how the bonding mechanism works.

If a man bonds with no one for 10 years through masturbation, or with 100 different women through fornication, that has a major effect on his ability to bond. Evert is pointing out that a person who has bonded with one person for 10 years will stay bonded even if the amount of bonding hormone decreases over time. A man who has bonded with no one for 10 years will have a very tough time bonding with a wife when the bonding hormone declines. He will be more bonded to no one than he will be to his wife.

So I guess the message I would send to Master Catholic from this is: The sooner you are able to stop bonding with no one, the easier it will be to bond with your wife. It won’t matter if the oxytocin can return to normal levels. If you seek to only bond with your own wife the oxytocin will do its job.

Clear as mud? 😛
 
Thanks to all of the posters here. I’ve battled with this issue for a long time and have used just about every excuse to justify it. But I can say that it really does lessen the want/need for intimacy with another person.

It isolated me and has kept me from developing any meaningful relationships because no one could ever live up to my fantasies. It can create a very, very lonely existence.

I just met a wonderful woman and I’m really going to make an effort to get this problem licked, not just in case marriage is in our future, but because I want to be able to love someone again.
 
mike_sieber said:
Thanks to all of the posters here. I’ve battled with this issue for a long time and have used just about every excuse to justify it. But I can say that it really does lessen the want/need for intimacy with another person.

It isolated me and has kept me from developing any meaningful relationships because no one could ever live up to my fantasies. It can create a very, very lonely existence.

I just met a wonderful woman and I’m really going to make an effort to get this problem licked, not just in case marriage is in our future, but because I want to be able to love someone again.
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May Our Lady intercede for you and obtain for you your holy desire.
 
se_goat said:
Hello all. After studying the CC and its teachings on sexuality for quite some time, I wonder how masturbation fits into natural law.

If it is beneficial to masturbate, why is it immoral? Why would God stipulate that it is a mortal sin when it is good for the body?
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Who said it’s good for the body to commit mortal sin???

That might be a medical myth propagated by anti-Catholic secularists.
God created the human body for love, not for sin.
 
To the OP…you asked how masturbation fits with natural law, and, to the best of my knowledge, no one has answered that question. I just posted on just this yesterday but don’t remember where on this site.

Natural Law states that all things have a natural end or purpose. Simply put, if we deny something its natural end then we have acted immoraly. In the case of masturation we are denying sperm its natural end. The purpose of sperm is to unite with an egg such that a new life is created. If you masturbate, then there is no egg at all, and your seed will not meet its proper end. Regardless of whether or not there are benefits to masturbating, it is still immoral. It is as simple as that.
 
If one violates the natural law by masterbating (not allowing sperm its natural end in fertilizing an egg which leads to new human life), how does this idea apply to women who masterbate? Is their pleasure in masterbation immoral because it is pleasure taken outside of the process of procreation? I’ve always heard the “wasting sperm” argument when it comes to masterbation (as though only men masterbate), but never hear reasons why it’s wrong for females (singles, housewives, nuns, et al) who masterbate. Just curious.
 
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