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Such would be very very incorrect. Someone was either misinformed -or something got lost in translation (such as discussing certain cases where guilt may be lessened…)
Not really. Opinions don’t change church teachings. It’s more important that he/she understand clearly the church teachings and not the opinions of Catholics which vary on this as well as may other teachings.
Lol I should have ended my question better
What if any culpable person for any mortal sin doesn’t make it to confession?
It is not something we can judge…for we do not know if the person had the grace of perfect contrition prior
Thanks for the answers. This is what I also believe to be true, just making sure I’m on the right page : )
The fact that you worry about dying in mortal sin, should provide you with your answer.
It is really sad that so much concern is highlighted on the mortality of this sin when most people struggling with it are indeed also struggling with “affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.”
Well said, I would also say talk to the priest in detail in the confessional. Share your struggle tell of how hard it is.
Why would a normal biological process be a sin? In our human part we are mammal and that part is subject to hormones and very often is a means of getting rid of stress. Making people feel guilty about it is just adding to their stress.
Well, are bodies are also designed to procreate. We should be having sex like animals…mating, but we tend to call that rape. There are lots of primal processes that we find immoral.
How did you equate masturbation (done in private) with having sex like animals? We are in our physical selves, sexual creatures, otherwise we would have no impetus to procreate. Psychologists will tell you that masturbation is a normal reaction to hormones, and stress. I agree that if it’s ruining someone’s life then it’s a problem, but I can guarantee that some kind of stress is the culprit. I wish the Catholic Church would revisit this subject.
All I am saying is we are more than animals. And so we should not just say “it’s natural”
Yap, that is how it works. You got more talents, so you have more responsibility.
Also, this is just personal and subjective experience, but don’t hold yourself on those numbers; 99,1%. I was on that side and I was like masturbation was human nature, impossible to stop, etc, etc. Glad to tell You that I found I was wrong. That’s just too fake happiness, that only lasts few moments. That’s the enemy tricking you. Trust me, since I have been chaste, I feel like I have been tasting pieces of the everlasting happiness. I don’t let my brain trick me any more.
I was raised Catholic but I always thought that morality was something that is in the human mind from birth
If he had the intention to go to confession, regretted his sin and was sorry or asked for forgiveness then we can’t say he is going to hell. This is why we must never judge a person ever. Masterbation is a mortal sin however there are many things that can stop it and God’s mercy is much greater than our knowledge
Perhaps that is true, you don’t need to know the ten commandments to know that killing someone or stealing is wrong but when it comes to masturbation or other things involving sex, it’s a bit different in secular society.
