Masturbation

[R_McGeddon]

Masturbation is a sin essentially because it is deliberate misuse of the procreative power

which is sacred. It is similar to what Onan did, when, refusing to raise up offspring for his brother,
he spilled his seed on the ground. God struck him dead for doing that. Masturbation is similarly sinful. Ya want the pleasure, but not the responsibility.

Of course this is rubbish, that would make it a sin, every time a married couple had sex when the woman wasn’t ovulating.

Ever wondered where that pent up sexual frustration ends up? The catholic church and its priests are infamous in the UK for its sexual misdeeds, now I know why.

Oh, by the way, R. McGeddon.
THAT’s pretty clever.
Armageddon perhaps?

You got it.

 

[NotWorthy]

Of course this is rubbish, that would make it a sin, every time a married couple had sex when the woman wasn’t ovulating.

Ever wondered where that pent up sexual frustration ends up? The catholic church and its priests are infamous in the UK for its sexual misdeeds, now I know why.

You got it.

So it’s got nothing to do with society promoting sex in nearly everything you see? You’ll also find the same rate of “sexual misdeeds” in other religions, where the clergy are allowed to marry, but you don’t see the multi-million dollar lawsuits, and hence, less publicity.

BTW, R McG, are you familiar in the Bible where God punished the man for pulling out prematurely? This MIGHT have something to do with the Catholic Doctrine.

Also, if your faith is more than 70 years old, chances are your faith taught that masturbation was a sin. Why has your truth changed, when God is unchanging?

 

[Steve_O_Brien]

Of course this is rubbish, that would make it a sin, every time a married couple had sex when the woman wasn’t ovulating.

Ever wondered where that pent up sexual frustration ends up? The Catholic Church and its priests are infamous in the UK for its sexual misdeeds, now I know why.

On the contrary, there’s no sin in a married couple’s accepting the fact the some marital acts occur, according to God’s will as manifested in the ovulation cycle, when conception isn’t going to ensue. But a sin is committed when the couple, not nature, exclude the possibility of the transmission of life.

No sexual misdeeds, whether in Queen Elizabeth II’s realm or elsewhere in the world, can affect the ethical truths that Christ teaches us through the Catholic Church.

Keep and spread the Faith.

 

[TobyLue]

 . It might be an inmpossible job being a Catholic because you don't have the word of God as your medicine

Evan, or clairmont ------
didn’t you read the post by the admin? This statement is arrogant distasteful and hateful towards the Catholic Church. Please do not use your anti-catholic rhetoric when the OP is asking for suggestions. To suggest that the OP leave the Catholic Church

I would say find a bible led church”

and

So if you think a church or religion , priest, **and false prayers **will help you , you willl see yourself going around the same merry-go -round, and the devil keeping you into condemnations”

and

PS. I think when you make this choice we need to go and talk on the pm or e-mails.because alot I will say will be against the Catholic church beliefs, but the thinks I help you with** will all work for you I promises that , Catholicism Can’t.**”

are hateful, distateful and uncalled for. Do us all a favor a please stay off this thread is you are not able to office positive suggestions and not your usual anti-catholic posts……

Advise to BigDL75.
Please ignore any and all posts by Evangelist… He is correct when he says that a lot of what he says will be against the Catholic Church. AMOF ALL of what he says is nothing but anti-catholic and his own distorted interpretations. Again please ignore him…

 

[NotWorthy]

Tobylue, just what are you trying to say???

 

[BrownR]

Dear Friend,
I have had that same problem too. I had it for 30 years before becoming Catholic, and ONLY the Grace of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit helped me to break that habit.
Pray FREQUENTLY to God that He will give you His Grace to break the habit completely. He has given that grace to me.
May I suggest a prayer to pray, and when you pray it, specifically ask Jesus for that grace, the grace to stop masturbating.
The prayer is called The Chaplet of the Divine Mercy, and Jesus has attached many, many powerful promises to people who pray it humbly. The prayer pleases him very much.

Get out a rosary,
make the sign of the cross and say, In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, AMEN.

Then pray, out loud,
1 Our Father
1 Hail Mary
1 Apostles Creed.

Then, on each LARGE bead of the Rosary, pray devoutly the following:
ETERNAL FATHER, I OFFER YOU THE BODY AND BLOOD, SOUL AND DIVINITY, OF YOUR DEARLY BELOVED SON, OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, IN ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS, AND THOSE OF THE WHOLE WORLD.

Then, on the 10 hail Mary beads, pray devoutly these words,
FOR THE SAKE OF HIS SORROWFUL PASSION,
HAVE MERCY ON US, AND ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

After praying 5 decades of this, devoutly conclude the prayer by invoking God, saying Three Times the following prayer:
HOLY GOD, HOLY MIGHTY ONE, HOLY IMMORTAL ONE,
HAVE MERCY ON US, AND ON THE WHOLE WORLD.

After that, devoutly say to Jesus,
My Jesus of Mercy, I Trust in You !! AMEN.
Make the sign of the cross reverently, and you’re done.

This prayer is a powerful form of what Protestants
call “pleading the blood” for your sins and for your needs.
Jesus Christ told Saint Sister Faustina that He is very, very pleased by this prayer and will grant extraordinary graces to all who sincerely and devoutly say it, for their own needs, or for the needs of others.

May God grant you success !!!
God bless,
Jaypeeto4 (aka Jaypeeto3)

Powerful prayer, thanks for sharing that. I had never heard of it, but I think I’ll adopt it into my prayer life. Thanks!

 

[Jaypeeto4]

R. McGeddon,
pent-up sexual frustration???
A person who CONQUERS the sexual desire through prayer and self discipline, does not suffer any pent-up sexual frustration.
I conquered a masturbation habit, and I have no such frustrations, thanks (literally) to God. You seem to think that a man
simply HAS to masturbate or else he will go berserk.
That is nonsense.

Actually, the misdeeds of UK clergy are certainly due to their INDULGING their lusts, not mortifying them.

Jaypeeto4 (aka Jaypeeto3)

 

[TobyLue]

BigDL75
The suggestions that your priest gave you are great indeed. Also, though, there are several other things that I think will be helpful. Realize that this sin of masturbation can become habitual so it’s important (if you are at a young age) to overcome this as soon as possible. Besides keeping your mind occupied, the need to stay away from anything, any thought, be it a TV program, magazine, conversation that may trigger the urge, needs to be avoided. (This is no easy task though.) Also, as with anything else, you must have a strong determination to overcome this tendency for self-gratification. This is where constant prayer comes into play. Understand too, that we are in a spiritual warfare and are constantly attacked by Satan. He may use TV programs, magazines, etc. as I mentioned above to lure you into masturbation. Pray constantly the St. Michael Prayer even when you may not have the urge.

“St. Michael the Archangel Prayer: St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and the snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the Power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits, who prowl around the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.”

Also this prayer that I found here

Dear Heavenly Father. You have told us in Your Word to put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts (Ro. 13:14). I acknowledge that I have given in to fleshly lusts, in the form of [pornography or masturbation, or both], that wage war against my soul (1 Pet. 2:11). I thank You that in Christ my sins are forgiven, but I have transgressed Your holy law and given the enemy an opportunity to wage war in my members (Eph. 4:27; Ja. 4:1; i Pet. 5:8). I come before Your presence to acknowledge these sins and to seek Your cleansing (1 Jn. 1:9 that I may be freed from the bondage of sin (Gal. 5:1). I now ask You to reveal to my mind the ways that I have transgressed Your moral law and grieved the Holy Spirit so that I may stay pure in body and soul before You. I ask this, my Lord, strengthened by the intercession of the Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother of God, of Blessed Michael the Archangel, of the Blessed Apostles Peters and Paul, and all the Saints and Angels of Heaven, and powerful in the holy authority of Your Name.”

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And if you fall, know that God is ready to forgive you and continue to use the Sacrament of Reconciliation as often as possible; weekly if necessary.

seriously considered becoming a Protestant a few months ago.

That is NOT, I repeat, NOT a solution. It only compounds the sin. It will still be a sin whether or not you become a Protestant. You would only be fooling yourself and you would be protesting against God Himself by thinking that the wrath of God can be avoided by going to a church where a sin is not considered a sin.

Do also whenever possible visits to the Blessed Sacrament, the Rosary, Chaplet of Divine Mercy and continue visits to this site to learn more about the Catholic Faith and ask for prayers. Ask Our Blessed Mother to pray for you that you remain pure as she was here on earth.

God Bless and you are in my prayers.

 

[TobyLue]

NotWorthy

Tobylue, just what are you trying to say???

Heh, When I read Evan’s post it brought out the Irish in me, and I’m not even Irish. I should say it brought out the hot jalapeňos in me.

 

[TobyLue]

Bigdl75
You may also want to look at this website – Overcoming the Masturbation Habit
God Bless.

 

[ALLFORHIM]

Hi,
My church also teaches masturbation is wrong and it most likely can lead to sexual sin, but the act of masturbation is not a sin. I was wondering where in the bible God states masturbation in and of itself is a sin. Thanks for any help.

 

[The_Augustinian]

Hi,
My church also teaches masturbation is wrong and it most likely can lead to sexual sin, but the act of masturbation is not a sin. I was wondering where in the bible God states masturbation in and of itself is a sin. Thanks for any help.

How can something be wrong yet not a sin? Even though it’s not specifically written down in the Bible, other perverted acts aren’t either. The Bible is not meant to catalogue every single possible sin out there. God also gave us common sense to figure out what’s right and wrong, and the continual teaching of the Church and the sensibility of the faithful concur that masturbation is sinful.

 

[plaguebot]

Yes, God gave us common sense to figure out what is right and wrong.

And if that common sense tells us that masturbation is not wrong, what then?

Didn’t the Church used to say that masturbation caused blindness, madness and deformity?

 

[kleary]

Hi,
My church also teaches masturbation is wrong and it most likely can lead to sexual sin, but the act of masturbation is not a sin. I was wondering where in the bible God states masturbation in and of itself is a sin. Thanks for any help.

Part of your confusion is believing that every thing God revealed to man is contained in Scripture Alone… an example of which is what you said,… like “If it doesn’t say it in Scripture then it is not true”.

You have to overcome that error, the error of Sola Scriptura to start with.

Ken

 

[NotWorthy]

Didn’t the Church used to say that masturbation caused blindness, madness and deformity?

I think you’re confusing the Church with my mother!!!

 

[R_McGeddon]

So it’s got nothing to do with society promoting sex in nearly everything you see?

Frankly, no it hasn’t.

You’ll also find the same rate of “sexual misdeeds” in other religions, where the clergy are allowed to marry, but you don’t see the multi-million dollar lawsuits, and hence, less publicity.

All religious sexual misdeeds make the news in the UK, you just wonder why most of them are done by catholic preists.

BTW, R McG, are you familiar in the Bible where God punished the man for pulling out prematurely? This MIGHT have something to do with the Catholic Doctrine.

Yes I am. It’s strange that it is in the Old Testament, this is usually selectively ignored, depending on the agenda.

Also, if your faith is more than 70 years old, chances are your faith taught that masturbation was a sin.

Just because it was disagreeable to the church 2000 years ago, doesn’t make it a sin.

Why has your truth changed,

I don’t understand this point.

when God is unchanging?

If there is a God, who says he is unchanging?

 

[R_McGeddon]

So far, nobody has pointed out where in the New Testament it is forbidden. Quoting from the Old Testament is unacceptable because you disregard parts of this when it suits.

 

[NotWorthy]

Frankly, no it hasn’t.
All religious sexual misdeeds make the news in the UK, you just wonder why most of them are done by catholic preists.
Yes I am. It’s strange that it is in the Old Testament, this is usually selectively ignored, depending on the agenda.
Just because it was disagreeable to the church 2000 years ago, doesn’t make it a sin.
I don’t understand this point.
If there is a God, who says he is unchanging?

Your truth has changed if you are any of the number of faiths that claimed masturbation was a sin 70 years ago, and now claims “it’s up the individual”. The same goes for contraception and abortion.

My point on God being un-changing? If God detested masturbation in the OT, what makes you think He approves of it now?

 

[ALLFORHIM]

Your truth has changed if you are any of the number of faiths that claimed masturbation was a sin 70 years ago, and now claims “it’s up the individual”. The same goes for contraception and abortion.

My point on God being un-changing? If God detested masturbation in the OT, what makes you think He approves of it now?

Hi,

Where in the OT is masturbation detested? I ask because I honestly dont know.

 

[R_McGeddon]

Your truth has changed if you are any of the number of faiths that claimed masturbation was a sin 70 years ago, and now claims “it’s up the individual”. The same goes for contraception and abortion.

I’ve never followed any faith so the point is moot.

My point on God being un-changing? If God detested masturbation in the OT, what makes you think He approves of it now?

Christians like to ignore parts of the OT when it suits them. How can that be right if the bible is God’s word, you either follow all of it or none of it. There’s no cherry picking for the parts that fit the agenda.

For example, Leviticus and Deuteronomy contain sections that are absolutely barbaric. If God is unchanging how do you justify ignoring those unsavoury parts?