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Kaliaa said:
This fits exactly with what we saw in the election, doesn’t it? People who finished college, and/or had an advanced degree mostly were in favor of one candidate. Those who had not were in favor of the other. With the media definitely leftist it all makes sense.

You’ve think that the more education could see through it, but they didn’t.

It’s fascinating and scary.
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This should make you rethink your own position.

What does it tell you that more educated people supported one candidate?
 
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“That Hideous Strength” is a 1945 novel by CS Lewis, projected as taking place in the near future. The hero is assigned to write news articles (not yet explicitly recognized as propaganda) with a certain slant to condition people to accept certain social changes. These would be written for different audiences. The hero at first anticipated that the educated classes, those with more schooling, professional positions, read the British equivalent of the NY Times, would be more difficult to persuade.

Actually he found the opposite. The educated, professional classes were the most easily persuaded, most ready to swallow his manipulation. The working classes, who only read the newspaper for the football scores and maybe some human interest stories, were most stubborn, resistant.

I found the same in my social services career. Those with Masters degrees were most ready to swallow ******any ******doctrines taught by the media. The most common sense, most resistant to nonsense, were secretaries, who got as far as high school. The Bachelor degree workers could go either way.

I encourage reading this book, along with his “The Abolition of Man”, a non fiction book from WW II era covering the same material. Essentially he describes what happens with the fading of “The Natural Law” and how this was facilitated through communication.
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The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis is a must read for people to help them understand what’s going on in the world, especially the West, right now.

The problem with higher education is academia is filled with “progressives,” meaning whatever they decide is progress is marketed that way to students. And the media backs these people up, with the occasional exception.

nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html

They want everybody at the table to have their voices heard, except Conservatives.

Ed
 
joshman1 said:
Most of America isn’t pro-life. Most of America isn’t right leaning. The news reflects this.
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Some of America is though, and the media does not reflect that. Like I said, my wife is the only pro life right leaning person in her division. Everybody else is left. It’s a ratio of about 30:1. Which obviously doesn’t reflect America.
 
Kaliaa said:
This fits exactly with what we saw in the election, doesn’t it? People who finished college, and/or had an advanced degree mostly were in favor of one candidate. Those who had not were in favor of the other. With the media definitely leftist it all makes sense.

You’d think that the more educated would see through it, but they didn’t.

It’s fascinating and scary.
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Schools don’t teach independent thinking especially in the social sciences and business; it’s about conformity.
There’s greed involved. Some post-graduates fear fiscal conservatives because spending cuts could mean their studies’ funding are at risk.
Others live in bubbles. They don’t have to interact with dumb, plain-speaking, gun-clinging, Bible-clinging, icky, rural yokels.
 
ATraveller said:
Schools don’t teach independent thinking especially in the social sciences and business; it’s about conformity.
There’s greed involved. Some post-graduates fear Trump’s spending cuts would mean their studies’ funding could be at risk.
Others live in bubbles. They don’t have to interact with dumb, plain-speaking, gun-clinging, Bible-clinging, icky, rural yokels.
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This is so so so unfair. Also, not wanting your funding cut =/= greed.
 
joshman1 said:
This is so so so unfair. Also, not wanting your funding cut =/= greed.
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It is fair. Everyone is selfish. Everyone votes to some extent (for most a large extent) on what makes them feel good or benefits them financially.
 
ATraveller said:
It is fair. Everyone is selfish. Everyone votes to some extent (for most a large extent) on what makes them feel good or benefits them.
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I disagree. I am not gay, I’m not black, I’m not a woman, I’m not an undocumented migrant - and those issues are the foremost when I vote.
 
joshman1 said:
I disagree. I am not gay, I’m not black, I’m not a woman, I’m not an undocumented migrant - and those issues are the foremost when I vote.
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But it makes you feel good about yourself. Just like a person who votes for a pro-life candidate. It makes him or her feel good.
 
ATraveller said:
But it makes you feel good about yourself. Just like a person who votes for a pro-life candidate. It makes him or her feel good.
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Feelings don’t matter. Doing the right thing is the right thing to do. Love your neighbor as yourself. And feeling good is a side effect of that, not the primary reason to do anything good/right.

Ed
 
The media is biased towards the left, absolutely.

Just like Fox News is biased to the right under the guise of “fair and balanced.” 🤷

Neither of them are fair. :)🙂

Don’t get me wrong-------ultimately total, 100% objectivity in the news is impossible, IMO. Ultimately, what we need is an attempt to be really “fair and balanced” with as much amount of objectivity as possible.

At the very least, the media needs to represent a variety of viewpoints, then let the viewers decide. And as little editorializing as possible. 👍
 
edwest2 said:
Feelings don’t matter. Doing the right thing is the right thing to do. Love your neighbor as yourself. And feeling good is a side effect of that, not the primary reason to do anything good/right.

Ed
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I’m coming from a bit of a Calvinist perspective on total depravity and I really don’t want to go into a theological debate here.🙂
This is where I’m coming from if you’re curious:
[E]ven the good which a person may intend is faulty in its premise, false in its motive, and weak in its implementation; and there is no mere refinement of natural capacities that can correct this condition. Thus, even acts of generosity and altruism are in fact egoist acts in disguise. All good, consequently, is derived from God alone, and in no way through humanity.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_depravity
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Brezezinski is not the authority on what the media does. He is is just expressing his opinion on what he might** like** the media to do.
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Isn’t Brzezinski a woman? Maybe I am confusing the name with a different channel.
 
edwest2 said:
The Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis is a must read for people to help them understand what’s going on in the world, especially the West, right now.

The problem with higher education is academia is filled with “progressives,” meaning whatever they decide is progress is marketed that way to students. And the media backs these people up, with the occasional exception.

nytimes.com/2016/05/08/opinion/sunday/a-confession-of-liberal-intolerance.html

They want everybody at the table to have their voices heard, except Conservatives.

Ed
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👍
 
joshman1 said:
This should make you rethink your own position.

What does it tell you that more educated people supported one candidate?
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That those educated people were indoctrinated by their leftist profs’ ,that is unless they slept through the lectures or were hungover most of the time.In which case they probably are fine.😉
 
ATraveller said:
But it makes you feel good about yourself. Just like a person who votes for a pro-life candidate. It makes him or her feel good.
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I have to disagree on the pro life part of your post. It is because it is the right and moral thing to do.

I do sincerely believe that the left vote because of their own one main issue, and they ignore all other issues whether they agree or not. Not all but most.
 
Jeanne_S said:
That those educated people were indoctrinated by their leftist profs’ ,that is unless they slept through the lectures or were hungover most of the time.In which case they probably are fine.😉
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I have found that many people can be book smart, but at the same time have no common sense.
 
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