media bias

[starshiptrooper]

Good to have this information out, the mainstream media loses even more credibility and their ability to sabotage President Trump is diminished.

 

[ATraveller]

I have to disagree on the pro life part of your post. It is because it is the right and moral thing to do.

I do sincerely believe that the left vote because of their own one main issue, and they ignore all other issues whether they agree or not. Not all but most.

Agree to disagree. I wrote that because I, though not a Calvinist, find the Calvinist point of view on the sinful nature of humans (fallen nature as Catholicism puts it) that outwardly good, even works done by a faithful practising Christian, isn’t completely altruistic to be true. I didn’t consider that Catholics, Eastern Orthodox and other Protestants don’t agree with and reject that doctrine when writing that post. A quote from Wikipedia (unfortunately) in my post above on this page does a better job explaining where I coming from.

 

[St_Francis]

I suppose it is not safe to make assumptions about such things in today’s world but I was under the impression that Brzezinski is a woman…?

Your post is so diplomatic and tactful that it made me laugh aloud.

Isn’t Brzezinski a woman? Maybe I am confusing the name with a different channel.

A different channel?

Anyway, Mika Brzezinski does not loom large in the minds of older people who heard quite a lot about her father, Zbigniew Brzezinski (whose name I copied and pasted so I could get it right).

 

[7_Sorrows]

Your post is so diplomatic and tactful that it made me laugh aloud.

A different channel?

Anyway, Mika Brzezinski does not loom large in the minds of older people who heard quite a lot about her father, Zbigniew Brzezinski (whose name I copied and pasted so I could get it right).

yes, meaning a host from another channel. I rarely watch MSNBC or CNN or HLN or NBC or CBS.
a post used the pronoun “he” so I made my comment.

 

[St_Francis]

yes, meaning a host from another channel. I rarely watch MSNBC or CNN or HLN or NBC or CBS.
a post used the pronoun “he” so I made my comment.

That clears that up

 

[dmelosi]

foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/10/four-times-republicans-faced-outrage-for-things-dems-did-first.html

Does anyone deny that there is extreme bias?

 

[Michael68]

Brezezinski is not the authority on what the media does. He is is just expressing his opinion on what he might** like** the media to do.

Its a she. Mika Brezinski

 

[Michael68]

If you can’t see a definite left wing bias in the MSM, you are not being truthful

 

[Latias]

If you can’t see a definite left wing bias in the MSM, you are not being truthful

The US media does not have the traditional, conservative, or reactionary Catholics. In Poland, for example, it is different. Move to Poland then. It is no longer communist then (as conservative often tell people to move to Cuba).

If the media doesn’t resonate with conservative Catholic ideology, then those people would say that it is biased against them.

foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/10/four-times-republicans-faced-outrage-for-things-dems-did-first.html

Does anyone deny that there is extreme bias?

I don’t have a problem with Ben Carson’s remarks or with the backlash. If you have a problem with either, ignore it.

Your link is courteous enough to provide Obama’s quote. If anything, Obama does not sound like an extreme left-winger who dwells on past historical grievances of African-Americans such as slavery; instead, Obama trying to say that those on slave ships also share part of the “American identity” as other immigrants such as those on the Mayflower. Obama was not playing on identity politics on his original comment. Again, Obama is actually downplaying slavery and other historical grievance in the name of reconciliation. Obama takes similar stances elsewhere, such as in Chile, where he evaded the issue of the September 11th coup and the human rights abuses, by not wanting to apologize.

During an Oval Office meeting with Pinera’s predecessor in 2009, Obama passed up a similar suggestion that he apologize for America’s backing of Pinochet and reported role in the murder of the country’s democratically elected president, Salvador Allende, whose left-leaning positions drew the ire of President Richard M. Nixon and Henry Kissinger.

“I think that the United States has been an enormous force for good in the world. I think there have been times where we’ve made mistakes,” Obama said then. “But I think that what is important is looking at what our policies are today, and what my administration intends to do in cooperating with the region.”

Really tepid to just call them “mistakes”. Sounds like Obama does not want to talk about American influence in Chile, which doesn’t have a positive legacy, and would serve to remind the world that the US is not about “human rights”.

Actually, this illustrates that Obama is not a far-leftist or adheres strongly to identity politics.

Look, the reason the conservative mainstream media had a backlash against the supposed outrage is to promote the propaganda line that the media is “left-wing” or “liberal”.

Yes, the media is slightly liberal towards social issues and would prefer Hillary Clinton over Trump.

If you want to prove to me that the media has a strong left-wing bias, then show me evidence that they favor Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders (over Hillary Clinton)… Conservative ignore all evidence suggesting that the media is not left-wing, for instance, there was hardly any bad words about Suharto when he died.

No, you think the media is leftist. It is not. On foreign policy, the media covers the debate within those factions that wield influence on US foreign policy. For example, it is never mentioned that Syria should be left alone, but the conservative faction criticizes Obama for not enforcing a “red line”. People like Chomsky and Stephen Cohen are largely kept out of the mainstream media. For instance, when Suharto died, the criticism towards him was muted. while in Pol Pot was vilified. (I do not disagree with the criticism of Pol Pot, but the US relationship with the Khmer Rouge is not what you think it is.) I heard the media criticize the Stasi saying that it is an instrument of a “totalitarian dictatorship”, but I never heard anyone say much of a bad word about Syngman Rhee, Jorge Rafael Videla, or Suharto.

 

[mary_bobo]

Mika Brzezinski is a female, but nobody watches her MSNBC show so, perhaps, people can be excused for not knowing that.

 

[Michael68]

Obama said that slaves were immigrants in their own way and nothing from the left wing biased MSM. Carson says it an they have a collective hissy fit.

There’s your bias for those who think its made up!!!

 

[Latias]

Obama said that slaves were immigrants in their own way and nothing from the left wing biased MSM. Carson says it an they have a collective hissy fit.

There’s your bias for those who think its made up!!!

Did you look at Obama’s comments? It shows he is not a far-leftist.

I don’t see the collective “hissy fit”. I don’t even bother with the media (and therefore, this “hissy fit” is only known to people who pay attention to the media.). If am able to live my life with minimum exposure to the liberal media, then you can too. Besides, it is a trivial issue.

Do you want me (or someone else) to condemn Obama for referring to slaves as immigrants? I am much more inclined to do that than to find Carson’s remarks acceptable.

Perhaps people pay more attention to Trump than Obama, or people hate Trump more so they are more captious.

Again, show me evidence that the media favors Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders (over Hillary Clinton).

 

[dmelosi]

Did you look at Obama’s comments? It shows he is not a far-leftist.

I don’t see the collective “hissy fit”. I don’t even bother with the media (and therefore, this “hissy fit” is only known to people who pay attention to the media.). If am able to live my life with minimum exposure to the liberal media, then you can too. Besides, it is a trivial issue.

Do you want me (or someone else) to condemn Obama for referring to slaves as immigrants? I am much more inclined to do that than to find Carson’s remarks acceptable.

Perhaps people pay more attention to Trump than Obama, or people hate Trump more so they are more captious.

Again, show me evidence that the media favors Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders (over Hillary Clinton).

Left on left? You are making that your way to measure left leanings?

 

[Latias]

Left on left? You are making that your way to measure left leanings?

Did you look at Obama’s remarks? It shows that he is not as far-left wing as most conservatives say that they he is. Perhaps you could be honest and admit that conservatives engage in agitprop to exaggerate how left-wing Obama is into to manufacture grievances about Obama pushing some left-wing agenda to erode the United States. In other words, you will be admitting that conservative media is engaging in hyperbolic propaganda. You could also admit that, and say that liberals do the same. It is not about truth; it is about playing to the audience.

Yes, if you want to show the media has a strong left-wing bias, then show me a preference for Corbyn or Sanders (over Clinton) in the media.

You have absolutely no evidence that the media promotes a radical leftist narrative.

 

[dmelosi]

Did you look at Obama’s remarks? It shows that he is not as far-left wing as most conservatives say that they he is. Perhaps you could be honest and admit that conservatives engage in agitprop to exaggerate how left-wing Obama is into to manufacture grievances about Obama pushing some left-wing agenda to erode the United States. In other words, you will be admitting that conservative media is engaging in hyperbolic propaganda. You could also admit that, and say that liberals do the same. It is not about truth; it is about playing to the audience.

Yes, if you want to show the media has a strong left-wing bias, then show me a preference for Corbyn or Sanders (over Clinton) in the media.

You have absolutely no evidence that the media promotes a radical leftist narrative.

The empirical evidence is overwhelming, unless you are so biased yourself you ignore it.

 

[Michael68]

The empirical evidence is overwhelming, unless you are so biased yourself you ignore it.

I think that is the case

 

[dmelosi]

Did you look at Obama’s remarks? It shows that he is not as far-left wing as most conservatives say that they he is. Perhaps you could be honest and admit that conservatives engage in agitprop to exaggerate how left-wing Obama is into to manufacture grievances about Obama pushing some left-wing agenda to erode the United States. In other words, you will be admitting that conservative media is engaging in hyperbolic propaganda. You could also admit that, and say that liberals do the same. It is not about truth; it is about playing to the audience.

Yes, if you want to show the media has a strong left-wing bias, then show me a preference for Corbyn or Sanders (over Clinton) in the media.

You have absolutely no evidence that the media promotes a radical leftist narrative.

Would a video of Obama arguing the infants born alive act be radical left wing enough for you?

 

[Latias]

The empirical evidence is overwhelming, unless you are so biased yourself you ignore it.

So what is this overwhelming evidence that the media is immensely biased?

The Fox News article quotes from the Twitter feed of Chelsea Clinton, Samuel L. Jackson, and the NAACP. Do you think they would be unbiased? They would naturally be biased against President Trump. It didn’t even quote for a major news outlet.

I could find something on Bannon twitter feed and criticize the media for having a right-wing bias for not criticizing it.

According to you, the media is biased because it does not flatter conservative Catholic sensibilities.

Perhaps you mean on social issues, but I typically ignore news about gay marriage and abortion. I had better things to do, even in 2011, to condemn Obama for saying that those on slave ships are similar to immigrants.

I explained Obama’s remarks:

Your link is courteous enough to provide Obama’s quote. If anything, Obama does not sound like an extreme left-winger who dwells on past historical grievances of African-Americans such as slavery; instead, Obama trying to say that those on slave ships also share part of the “American identity” as other immigrants such as those on the Mayflower. Obama was not playing on identity politics on his original comment. Again, Obama is actually downplaying slavery and other historical grievance in the name of “reconciliation”. Obama takes similar stances elsewhere, such as in Chile, where he evaded the issue of the September 11th coup and the human rights abuses, by not wanting to apologize.

Do you have a better explanation for why Obama said what he said in 2011?

I said this earlier:

I don’t have a problem with Ben Carson’s remarks or with the backlash. If you have a problem with either, ignore it.

It is a peccadillo by the media. It actually sounds like that you want to maintain some grievance towards the media for allegedly being “left-wing” and commiserate with your fellow conservatives about it. Again, you could ignore it. It actually says something about you if you are that bothered by it or that you are interested in maintain a narrative about the alleged liberal bias of media .

 

[dmelosi]

So what is this overwhelming evidence that the media is immensely biased?

The Fox News article quotes from the Twitter feed of Chelsea Clinton, Samuel L. Jackson, and the NAACP. Do you think they would be unbiased? They would naturally be biased against President Trump. It didn’t even quote for a major news outlet.

I could find something on Bannon twitter feed and criticize the media for having a right-wing bias for not criticizing it.

According to you, the media is biased because it does not flatter conservative Catholic sensibilities.

Perhaps you mean on social issues, but I typically ignore news about gay marriage and abortion. I had better things to do, even in 2011, to condemn Obama for saying that those on slave ships are similar to immigrants.

I explained Obama’s remarks:

Do you have a better explanation for why Obama said what he said in 2011?

I said this earlier:

It is a peccadillo by the media. It actually sounds like that you want to maintain some grievance towards the media for allegedly being “left-wing” and commiserate with your fellow conservatives about it. Again, you could ignore it. It actually says something about you if you are that bothered by it or that you are interested in maintain a narrative about the alleged liberal bias of media .

I am bothered by it because they pretend to be unbiased. My grievance with the media is that they think they should be able to tell people what to think. If it were close to fair reporting as it should be, great, but it is nowhere close.

What do you think of how the media reacted to the AG meeting Clinton for an hour? What do you think of how the media reacted when it was shown that a major network gave Clinton the question before the debate?

Another thread shows what the left wingers think their role is…

MSNBC Anchor: “Our Job” Is To “Control Exactly What People Think”

 

[dmelosi]

So what is this overwhelming evidence that the media is immensely biased?

The Fox News article quotes from the Twitter feed of Chelsea Clinton, Samuel L. Jackson, and the NAACP. Do you think they would be unbiased? They would naturally be biased against President Trump. It didn’t even quote for a major news outlet.

I could find something on Bannon twitter feed and criticize the media for having a right-wing bias for not criticizing it.
According to you, the media is biased because it does not flatter conservative Catholic sensibilities.

Not sure why you made this up, entirely false.

Perhaps you mean on social issues, but I typically ignore news about gay marriage and abortion. I had better things to do, even in 2011, to condemn Obama for saying that those on slave ships are similar to immigrants.

I explained Obama’s remarks:

Do you have a better explanation for why Obama said what he said in 2011?

I said this earlier:

No I don’t have a better explanation, and as I said earlier I think it silly to make either comment a big deal.

It is a peccadillo by the media. It actually sounds like that you want to maintain some grievance towards the media for allegedly being “left-wing” and commiserate with your fellow conservatives about it. Again, you could ignore it. It actually says something about you if you are that bothered by it or that you are interested in maintain a narrative about the alleged liberal bias of media .

Here is one source of
businessinsider.com/what-your-preferred-news-outlet-says-about-your-political-ideology-2014-10