Meghan McCain knocks Trump at John McCain's funeral service: 'America was always

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0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
LOL in what world does “you have to provide a service that goes against your faith” a
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Do you really think that the people in govenrment who support a comprehensive health plan that covers the cost of Blood transfusions are directly attacking jehovah’s Witnesses?

Do you think that the whole idea of goverment support of medical care is a direct attack on Christian Scientists?
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
This has gotten silly.
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Way back.
 
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
The HHS, for absolutely no good reason, attempted to dictate to the rest of us on whether we’re allowed to practice our faith in the workplace and live out our Christian mission.
It was a direct violation of the First Amendment.
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dvdjs said:
But the idea that it was an infringement on the practice of faith is not the least bit obvious.
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At least 160 Bishops would disagree with the above statement! …and they would be in complete agreement with @0Scarlett_nidiyilii’s statement.
“Bishops and lay Catholic leaders across the United States have made it clear that we cannot comply with this unjust law without compromising our convictions and undermining the Catholic identity of many of our service ministries, This is not just another important issue among the many we need to be concerned about. This ruling is different. This ruling interferes with the basic right of Catholic citizens to organize and work for the common good as Catholics in the public square.”
~Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia~
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“We cannot and we will not comply with this unjust federal order. We cannot and we will not accept this egregious affront to our religious liberty. The mandate’s implications are “grave.” It negatively impacts the Catholic Church and “strikes at the fundamental right to religious liberty.”
~Bishop Kevin Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Ind.~
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“We cannot and will not comply with this unjust decree. Like the martyrs of old, we must be prepared to accept suffering, which could include heavy fines and imprisonment. Our American religious liberty is in grave jeopardy. This means that all of our Catholic schools, hospitals, social-service agencies and the like will be forced to participate in evil."
~Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz of Lincoln, Neb.~
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“This is an unprecedented attack on our religious liberty, which is a founding principle of our nation. This ruling is an example of government violating our rights to make choices based on our morals and Church teaching.”
~Archbishop Gregory Aymond of New Orleans~
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160-Plus Bishops Speak Out Against HHS Mandate

More USCCB statements and USA Today editorial add to action alerts and letters from Catholic shepherds to counter administration's violation of Church beliefs and conscience rights. Updated from Feb. 6.
www.ncregister.com www.ncregister.com
 
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Mark121359 said:
At least 160 Bishops would disagree with the above statement!
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The quotes in this article are interesting, but I am looking for sometime that addressed the moral issues - paert form the political ones. Do you have anything on that?.

I’ll ask you the same question that I asked earlier: Do you really think that the people in govenrment who support a comprehensive health plan that covers the cost of Blood transfusions are directly attacking Jehovah’s Witnesses? Do you think that the whole idea of goverment support of medical care is a direct attack on Christian Scientists?
 
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Peeps said:
I am especially disgusted by the number of “stars” who eloquently praised Sen. McCain, but just a year ago were calling him “racist.”
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Which “stars” praised McCain in the last few days but called him a racist a year ago?
 
Sorry if I’m late.
Was John McCain pro-life?
Do you feel he had anger all the time against trump and is that sinful?
 
LeafByNiggle said:
There are plenty of good people with class.
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mccain and trump have a lot in common on how they lived their personal lives. why does one get a waiver and the other doesn’t?
dixieagle said:
McCain, unlike Trump, begged forgiveness and acknowledged his faults, particularly with regard to his first wife.
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one is a politician and one isn’t.
Peeps said:
As far as I’m concerned, Sen. McCain’s name was tarnished by the attempts of Pres. Bush and Pres. Obama, and Ms. McCain, to call out Pres. Trump.
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when you have nothing good to say about a person pick on the opponent.
dixieagle said:
reasons folks voted for Trump
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don’t forget the supreme court pick
dvdjs said:
The quotes in this article are interesting, but I am looking for sometime that addressed the moral issues - paert form the political ones. Do you have anything on that?.
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you are looking for something that agrees with your point of view

blood transfusions versus contraceptive drugs, because people can’t live without sex
 
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LeafByNiggle:
There are plenty of good people with class.
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mccain and trump have a lot in common on how they lived their personal lives. why does one get a waiver and the other doesn’t?
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Like night and day.
 
Let’s remember how this all started with McCain and Trump, McCain called Trump supporters crazies and Trump hit back, but I guess McCain was sinless…
 
I think her comments were tacky. She should’ve stuck to remembering her father and leaving the political attacks out of it.
 
upant said:
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LeafByNiggle:
Like night and day.
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so cheating and divorce is ok if…
no they are not

bullying and berating is ok if…
no they are not
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The “night and day” I refer to is in regard to selfless public service and the willingness to see the good in those with whom he disagreed and work with them anyway. I could go on, but these will do for now, because they are huge differences.
why do you think keating bought mccain
it wasn’t because he was a boy scout
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McCain was cleared of acting improperly.
 
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upant said:
you are looking for something that agrees with your point of view
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Or not. No one seems to be willing to address the moral issue without conflating the political one or even calling it a moral issue. Or to discuss the contents of the links I posted.
upant said:
blood transfusions versus contraceptive drugs, because people can’t live without sex
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I am not sure that that is responsive. The question, for those who claim that including contraception in insurance coverage was an attack on Catholicism, do you also hold that covering blood transfusion is an attack on JW’s? That question is different from explaining why one thinks that it is more important to cover one thing or the other.
 
Yes it does if the specifics of how they are similar is mentioned. And people have mentioned things like how McCain cheated on his first, disfigured wife with his last wife.
LeafByNiggle said:
The “night and day” I refer to is in regard to selfless public service and the willingness to see the good in those with whom he disagreed and work with them anyway. I could go on, but these will do for now, because they are huge differences.
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Ah, well Trump has served the public his whole life too. He has built things and created products people want. The key difference is people have to voluntarily buy what Trump produces whereas McCain, by the nature of government, has his product forced on people.

As for selfless I don’t see how you measure that. McCain got tremendous power and wealth from his work. So did Trump.
 
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