Mel Gibson pushed for President

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Annunciata:
Did you ever read “The Accidental Pope” by Ray Flynn & Robin Moore???😉
Actually I would vote for Mel for Pres…
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How about Emperor of Earth?
 
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Steph700:
Just b/c Mel Gibson is a good man- morally, as a Cathoic- does not mean he should be a politician. Sure, it would be great to have him in my parish, or living next door, or as a cinema professor… but to automatically rally behind him as a presidential candidate? I don’t think so. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree, there’s no way I would vote for someone just b/c they were a moral catholic.
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What would be your desired qualifications? Immoral cafeteria Catholic? Moral fundie? Immoral Lutheran? Amoral athiest? Just curious.
 
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Brad:
I can’t name one politician, Catholic or non-Catholic that has been as courageous and truthful as him in the past few years aside from maybe Fr. Pavone. Can you?
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There are some Republicans who would say that the President is equally, if not more courageous and truthful.

But, hey, if you think that Gibson is the paragon of courage and truth, fine.
 
I totally love MEL! But I’m not sure he’s the political answer.

I definately would love to see him out there in some way. But I think I would prefer him using film to reach people like he did with The Passion, or even calling into shows like he did with Terri Schiavo. Once he enters the political relm, then everything he says or does will be questioned, we’ll have to hear about every skeleton in his closet and I just don’t want to go there. He has admitted that he’s taken a long journey to get there and done things he’s not proud of, but I really don’t need a laundry list. Just knowing he’s had this journey of faith that has brought him to Jesus in much more spiritual and devout way is inspirring enough.
 
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Steph700:
Just b/c Mel Gibson is a good man- morally, as a Cathoic- does not mean he should be a politician. Sure, it would be great to have him in my parish, or living next door, or as a cinema professor… but to automatically rally behind him as a presidential candidate? I don’t think so. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree, there’s no way I would vote for someone just b/c they were a moral catholic.
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I agree with you.

BTW, Gibson is a decent actor, pretty good looking, a successful director and producer as well. And he’s made a bundle of money in the bargain. Should those count positively in evaluating him for President?
 
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geezerbob:
What would be your desired qualifications? Immoral cafeteria Catholic? Moral fundie? Immoral Lutheran? Amoral athiest? Just curious.
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Good education, good track record politically (knows the ropes), knowledge of current events world-wide, hard worker, has traveled internationally and had extensive experience with people from around the world, passion to make the country a better place, a political uniter- not a divider.

My qualifications do not include a particular religious background.
 
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Steph700:
Just b/c Mel Gibson is a good man- morally, as a Cathoic- does not mean he should be a politician. Sure, it would be great to have him in my parish, or living next door, or as a cinema professor… but to automatically rally behind him as a presidential candidate? I don’t think so. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree, there’s no way I would vote for someone just b/c they were a moral catholic.
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There is no reason to NOT vote for someone because he is a moral Catholic. What are your requirements for the people that govern the way we live in this country? What do you look for?
 
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Richardols:
There are some Republicans who would say that the President is equally, if not more courageous and truthful.

But, hey, if you think that Gibson is the paragon of courage and truth, fine.
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Why does everyone like to talk indirectly here? I’m not asking what some Republicans think.
 
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Brad:
There is no reason to NOT vote for someone because he is a moral Catholic. What are your requirements for the people that govern the way we live in this country? What do you look for?
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see post #27
 
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mommy:
I totally love MEL! But I’m not sure he’s the political answer.

I definately would love to see him out there in some way. But I think I would prefer him using film to reach people like he did with The Passion, or even calling into shows like he did with Terri Schiavo. Once he enters the political relm, then everything he says or does will be questioned, we’ll have to hear about every skeleton in his closet and I just don’t want to go there. He has admitted that he’s taken a long journey to get there and done things he’s not proud of, but I really don’t need a laundry list. Just knowing he’s had this journey of faith that has brought him to Jesus in much more spiritual and devout way is inspirring enough.
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Who cares about the laundry list if he’s going to do the right things? We all have laundry lists. It’s not like we only have perfect people in government. Now we have imperfect people that do bad things. I’d rather have imperfect people that do good things.
 
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Steph700:
I’m sorry, I’m just tired of this Mel Gibson “idolatry”. I used to like Mel as an actor before I came on these forums, but now after hearing people rant and rave about him all day long I would be perfectly happy not to hear about him more than once a year or whenever he’s in a good movie again!

Really people, there are all kinds of great, talented folks out there- actors, politicians, catholics and non-Catholics. Yes, praise of Mel Gibson is due… but claiming he should now run for president b/c he made a good movie and is a devout Catholic is taking things a little too far.

What next? Nominations for Gibson for Pope??? Give me a break. :rolleyes:
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A good strong Catholic who is not afraid to express his beliefs is exactly what we need in this country. i’d vote for him in a heartbeat. what other good Catholic can you think of that will stand up for Catholic teachings regardless of wether of not they are popular. what mattters is they are true. if he became president, you could kiss gay marriage, abortion, cloning, and euthinasia good bye! We might actually have Good Fridays off and other important CHRISTIAN holidays. Muslims can be off for Ramadan, but if we ask for the feast of Divine Mercy off we’d be laughed all the way to the unemployment line! Go for it Mel! i’d vote for you!
 
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Steph700:
Good education, good track record politically (knows the ropes), knowledge of current events world-wide, hard worker, has traveled internationally and had extensive experience with people from around the world, passion to make the country a better place, a political uniter- not a divider.

My qualifications do not include a particular religious background.
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Looks like your qualifications EXCLUDE someone with a particular religious background. Mel qualifies on all the above except possibly the second one you mentioned and that sure didn’t stop Abraham Lincoln as his political track record stunk.
 
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Brad:
Who cares about the laundry list if he’s going to do the right things? We all have laundry lists. It’s not like we only have perfect people in government. Now we have imperfect people that do bad things. I’d rather have imperfect people that do good things.
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That was kind of my point, but apparently I didn’t phrase it well.

I just could see him being an even bigger target for dirt than other politicians because he is famous already. It would be a joy for the media to do this.

I don’t expect anyone who’s running for office to be perfect or have a perfect past.

But I think his message would be better done in a non political office realm. Otherwise it would probably get muddied up with ‘what he did in his younger wilder hollywood days’.
 
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Brad:
Looks like your qualifications EXCLUDE someone with a particular religious background. Mel qualifies on all the above except possibly the second one you mentioned and that sure didn’t stop Abraham Lincoln as his political track record stunk.
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Whatever, Brad. No I don’t. I don’t exclude someone based of their religious background and I don’t support them because of their religious background either.

No, but Abraham Lincoln sure as heck knew the ropes, didn’t he.
 
Not that I don’t like the guy, but isn’t he part of SSPX?
 
Plus i’d like to know what the heck Mel is short for. Run Mel! and uh please tell us your FULL first name. Melanie? Melvin? Melimar? any ideas anyone?
 
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TarAshly:
A good strong Catholic who is not afraid to express his beliefs is exactly what we need in this country. i’d vote for him in a heartbeat. what other good Catholic can you think of that will stand up for Catholic teachings regardless of wether of not they are popular. what mattters is they are true. if he became president, you could kiss gay marriage, abortion, cloning, and euthinasia good bye! We might actually have Good Fridays off and other important CHRISTIAN holidays. Muslims can be off for Ramadan, but if we ask for the feast of Divine Mercy off we’d be laughed all the way to the unemployment line! Go for it Mel! i’d vote for you!
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I’m trying to find the right words here…

Do you really want a president of the United States to have that much power?

Let’s turn the tables for a moment. What if a Muslim ran for president and won. Would you want him/her to be able to exert the type of power you mentioned above? Heck no! I know I wouldn’t.

I would also like to know, realistically, how you think the president could rid our country of abortion, gay marriage, euthinasia, etc. Not possible w/o the other branches of gov’t.

Let’s be realistic. Getting a devout Catholic into office is not going to automatically fix what’s wrong.

These are the reasons I think the power of a president should be limited! And also a reason why I don’t want our nation to be “officially” a nation run by religion. What would happen if it wasn’t Christian any more? Then what? The more we can separate Church from State, the better.
 
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