Melania Trump is the first Catholic first lady since Jackie Kennedy

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queenofheartscv said:
Hope you have the courage to act out such virtues in your real life: declaring to all your family and friends who are dolivorced and remarried the truth of their own marital state. I’m pretty sure you have what it takes to be a martyr defending the integrity of Holy Matrimony, which seems to your driving passion. Great calling you have there!
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What I do is act consistently, not act like someone who has the last name Trump is given a pass because, hey, she carried a rosary, while someone like this is reviled.

#consistency
#stopthedoublestandards

And please note: the above is a meme for what I’m discussing. I don’t necessarily mean to address the specifics of these writers. It’s the ideology.
 
mary_bobo said:
Stylteralmaldo;14677060:
Maybe it was addressed? She could have come into the Church as rece

Indeed, but that won’t stop those who are anti-Trump and will use any means to denigrate him, and his wife and youngest child. IMO, this is disgusting.
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Let’s see: In spite of constant media coverage, she has never been photographed inside a Catholic Church before this last trip, she was married in another church to a man who, in the eyes of the Church, is not free to marry, she baptized her son in another religion and is raising him in that religion.

But questioning a statement for which there is no supporting evidence is an indication that those who do so are “anti-Trump” and wish to denigrate him and his innocent family members.

It couldn’t possibly be that those who defend Trump are people who do not place much emphasis on facts.
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mary_bobo said:
Indeed, but that won’t stop those who are anti-Trump and will use any means to denigrate him, and his wife and youngest child. IMO, this is disgusting.
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Furthermore, her Catholicism could explain why she didn’t move into the White House right away to avoid of scandal being in an irregular marriage. (I understand the story seems to be regarding her son’s education). She could have received a dispensation as recently as her visit to the Pope for all we know.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
Furthermore, her Catholicism could explain why she didn’t move into the White House right away to avoid of scandal being in an irregular marriage. (I understand the story seems to be regarding her son’s education). She could have received a dispensation as recently as her visit to the Pope for all we know.
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What type of dispensation do you mean?
 
PRmerger said:
Well, those of us who are Catholics ought to see things with “the eyes of the Church” and be calling* Ivana* our First Lady.
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It would seem that the Holy Father Pope Francis received Melania Trump as the First Lady … Does Pope Francis not set the norm for and represent “the Church”? Are you more Catholic than the Pope? 🤷

I have no idea whether Mrs Trump is Catholic or not - As I said in the closed thread - I do hope and pray that she lives a life in fellowship with our Lord - that she follows the path He has laid out for her … for all of us - faith is a journey … I know I have had many occasions to seek forgiveness and reparation with my Church and with my Lord … thankfully God is merciful
 
Book_Worm said:
Let’s see: In spite of constant media coverage, she has never been photographed inside a Catholic Church before this last trip, she was married in another church to a man who, in the eyes of the Church, is not free to marry, she baptized her son in another religion and is raising him in that religion.

But questioning a statement for which there is no supporting evidence is an indication that those who do so are “anti-Trump” and wish to denigrate him and his innocent family members.

It couldn’t possibly be that those who defend Trump are people who do not place much emphasis on facts.
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Yeah.

 
Book_Worm said:
Let’s see: In spite of constant media coverage, she has never been photographed inside a Catholic Church before this last trip, she was married in another church to a man who, in the eyes of the Church, is not free to marry, she baptized her son in another religion and is raising him in that religion.

But questioning a statement for which there is no supporting evidence is an indication that those who do so are “anti-Trump” and wish to denigrate him and his innocent family members.

It couldn’t possibly be that those who defend Trump are people who do not place much emphasis on facts.
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I have no problem with people questioning whether the report of her being a faithful Catholic as being true or not. She’s in the public eye. It comes with the territory being a celebrity…First Lady in the present…and surely she’s no stranger to the scrutiny having been in the limelight prior to even knowing President Trump.
 
mary_bobo said:
Indeed, but that won’t stop those who are anti-Trump and will use any means to denigrate him, and his wife and youngest child. IMO, this is disgusting.
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That is an over-generalization. There are respectful human beings who don’t use the spouse or children against an office-holder, whoever it may be. You went a little too far here IMO.
 
YADA said:
It would seem that the Holy Father Pope Francis received Melania Trump as the First Lady …
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Emmm…surely you’re not saying that the Holy Father has disregarded Jesus’ words the divorce and remarriage is adultery.

Be very, very careful here, YADA.

It certainly SOUNDS as if you’re saying that Pope Francis believes contrary to what Jesus and the Church says: divorce and remarriage is adultery.

Or, you can look at it with rational eyes and say his reception of Melania and Donald, like Jesus eating with sinners, is not to be taken as an endorsement of their behavior.
 
PRmerger said:
Emmm…surely you’re not saying that the Holy Father has disregarded Jesus’ words the divorce and remarriage is adultery.

Be very, very careful here, YADA.

It certainly SOUNDS as if you’re saying that Pope Francis believes contrary to what Jesus and the Church says: divorce and remarriage is adultery.

Or, you can look at it with rational eyes and say his reception of Melania and Donald, like Jesus eating with sinners, is not to be taken as an endorsement of their behavior.
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I think the Pope knows that every time he eats with people - he is eating with sinners … He did meet her as the First Lady … as he could do so without believing contrary to what Jesus taught - though there are some who say his stance of irregular marriages does exactly that … Charity and Mercy abound … he did - in fact - receive her as Mrs. Trump and First Lady. If he had not wanted to do so - he could have made the meeting less public

And I do not need for you to tell me to be careful - perhaps you should look in the mirror
 
PRmerger said:
What type of dispensation do you mean?
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I might be using the wrong terminology here. My understanding is that if someone is in an irregular marital situation they may be able to live in the same house ‘as brother and sister’…in other words, not living sin (given that Trump’s other marriages presumably haven’t been annulled).

Of course, them living in the same house (the White House) could be seen as a scandal. This is the “dispensation” I am referring to. Perhaps the First Lady obtained permission from the Pope on her recent visit to move in where she can live in the same house (I’ve read that she is planning to move into the White House this summer)…albeit separate bedrooms…due to Trump not yet receiving annulment from his previous marriages.

Speculation on my part of course, as the story is very new to us all.
 
YADA said:
I think the Pope knows that every time he eats with people - he is eating with sinners … He did meet her as the First Lady … as he could do so without believing contrary to what Jesus taught - though there are some who say his stance of irregular marriages does exactly that … Charity and Mercy abound … he did - in fact - receive her as Mrs. Trump and First Lady. If he had not wanted to do so - he could have made the meeting less public

And I do not need for you to tell me to be careful - perhaps you should look in the mirror
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So what is your point vis a vis the topic of Melania being married to a man who’s been married 3 times, meeting with the Pope?

You seem to be suggesting that since the Pope met with them publically he is declaring their marriage to be valid.

Yes?

If that’s not your point, then your response to my post was otiose.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
Furthermore, her Catholicism could explain why she didn’t move into the White House right away to avoid of scandal being in an irregular marriage. (I understand the story seems to be regarding her son’s education). She could have received a dispensation as recently as her visit to the Pope for all we know.
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She’s lived with a twice-divorced adulterer since 2001, spends weekends with him, and travels the world with him, but is living in NYC to avoid giving scandal? That ship sailed a long time ago.
 
Stylteralmaldo said:
Perhaps the First Lady obtained permission from the Pope on her recent visit to move in where she can live in the same house (I’ve read that she is planning to move into the White House this summer)…albeit separate bedrooms…due to Trump not yet receiving annulment from his previous marriages.

Speculation on my part of course, as the story is very new to us all.
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Separate bedrooms.

I don’t think anyone needs the Pope’s permission to move in to a house and have separate bedrooms.
 
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