Men's rights and Catholicism

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Nimzovik said:
Absolutely not. I do not want to see women get drafted. However! It this not where Feminism is taking us? The answer is a resounding yes. How can it be avoided? The women need to get on board wll in attacking this issue methinks. Yes? Where are they?

Yet, should **not **men be *appreciated *for this service? For enduring this - ahem… inequality? Should they be recompensed accordingly? Why not? There is room for discussion here, methinks.

Feminism needs to be stopped dead in it’s tracks in these issues. However I do not see that happeneing. Do ***you? ***

Let us wake up men!
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I don’t understand your flip flop.

You were listing all the things that you thought were VIOLATIONS of men’s rights.

With these you included:
  • Women on the Titanic got off first
  • Only men get drafted, women don’t
  • Men get circumcised
  • Men get put in jail more than women do
Seemed like you were complaining about all these things, but whatever.
 
Debora123 said:
I just could never imagine someone who has a wife and a daughter saying some of the things you’ve been saying. Now I don’t have to try to “imagine” it anymore.
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Really! And why not? Because I stick up for Men’s Rights? How sexist of you.
 
Debora123 said:
I don’t understand your flip flop.

You were listing all the things that you thought were VIOLATIONS of men’s rights.

With these you included:
  • Women on the Titanic got off first
  • Only men get drafted, women don’t
  • Men get circumcised
  • Men get put in jail more than women do
Seemed like you were complaining about all these things, but whatever.
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Le gasp! I highlight glaring distinctions of this ‘Culture of Discrimination’ regarding men and I am accused of what- Flip foloping? Hmmmmm… Indicative of the Knee jerk reaction I discussed sooooooo many times in this very thread methinks.
 
Usige said:
The point is feminist are demanding equality why don’t they demand it in all areas. I would hope you would feel the same way about your husband (i.e. that he were not forced to go to war). According to some sociologist there isn’t inherent nature based on sex/gender.
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I’m sure there are plenty of extreme feminists out there who think women should get all the same standards in the military as men do. That includes things like getting drafted and being allowed to join forces such as the Navy SEALS.

It really just depends on what group of feminists you talk to.
 
Nimzovik said:
Le gasp! I highlight glaring distinctions of this ‘Culture of Discrimination’ regarding men and I am accused of what- Flip foloping? Hmmmmm… Indicative of the Knee jerk reaction I discussed sooooooo many times in this very thread methinks.
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No, you’re just simply not making any sense.
 
Nimzovik said:
LOL! Again it is interesting to see that discussing Men’s rights that the knee jerk reaction is that we are blaming women! How amusing.

Yes. It** was** God’s commandment. Not anymore. Try and look up the stats for medical reasons for circumscision. Quite flakey really.

It should be blatantly obvious that psychological trauma is certainly within the realms of possibility.

Why is this still continuing? This issue **needs **to be addressed.

The exception of course, for the Jewish population that still have religious regulations concerning it.
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Yes it’s sad, but it’s true. I bring up men’s rights and I immediately get pinned as some 10th century backwards neanderthal.

Umm I don’t know about you, but the medical evidence for male circumcision is pretty solid.

Umm I don’t see myself as psychologically damaged, but if you think it has damaged you okay.

It continues because it’s my God-given right!
If circumcision was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me. You know you’re starting to sound like the whacko Feminists I can’t tolerate and the ones you despised. Back in the 70s those looney Feminists wanted to make women feel bad who decided to breastfeed…hey it’s their God-given right…LEAVE THEM ALONE!

I think parents have every right to choose to circumcise their boy or not…It’s none of my business and certainly not yours.
 
Methinks women need to **militate **against feminism if they do **not **want to see their daughters get drafted. Methinks women need to wake up in regard to the **many **societal horrors Feminism is **inflicting **on our society! :cool:
 
Nimzovik said:
Absolutely not. I do not want to see women get drafted. However! It this not where Feminism is taking us? The answer is a resounding yes. How can it be avoided? The women need to get on board wll in attacking this issue methinks. Yes? Where are they?

Yet, should **not **men be *appreciated *for this service? For enduring this - ahem… inequality? Should they be recompensed accordingly?
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You type like a madman. 🙂

How would you like to be recompensed?
 
Yes… Recompensation. Isn’t that an interesting topic? I often hear how many of my African American friends feel they should be compensated for slavery. *Welllllllllllllllllll… Should not **men *be compensated for carrying this burden of men only being drafted for sooooooo long? ;):D:thumbsup:
 
Nimzovik said:
Yes… Recompensation. Isn’t that an interesting topic? I often hear how many of my African American friends feel they should be compensated for slavery. *Welllllllllllllllllll… Should not **men ***be compensated for carrying this burden for sooooooo long? ;):D:thumbsup:
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Let’s not go there. :mad:

I tried to be open to what you were saying but you’ve just lost all credibility with me.
 
Yes. There is no need for it any more. However the majority of men have been cricumcised methinks. Needlessly so IMHO. The Jews should be protected for their religious freedom issues in this regard.
 
so that this described mechanism is in place? Are there not those that lobby for same? Should I give you a web site regarding this? It is a simple** fact** gentlemen. And as such is neutral. Facts are truths gentlemen. Facts are not to be avoided.

I feel it is tasteless of you to call it tasteless.
 
Nimzovik said:
Yes… Recompensation. Isn’t that an interesting topic? I often hear how many of my African American friends feel they should be compensated for slavery. *Welllllllllllllllllll… Should not **men ***be compensated for carrying this burden of men only being drafted for sooooooo long? ;):D:thumbsup:
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Whoa there buddy.
 
Concurrence. I am sure the stats are out there. There are indeed web sites that address this issue. Feel free to research and get back to us.
 
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