It is an open question in canon law and I have every right to help clear up the waters. I have been advised by a canon lawyer that the mass obligation from two holydays can be satisfied with attendance at the Saturday evening mass,
Second, you have to think about WHY the US bishops have decided IC 2013 is not obligatory. It is similar to the resaon that other holydays are not obligatory when they fall on Saturday or Monday. For these feasts the bishops have decided that one mass is enough for the observance the two holydays of obligation because they fall on two consecutive days. Now the bishops do not think that going to Mass on Sunday is enough to celebrate the Immaculate Conception or Christmas when this falls on Saturday. However enough bishops consider going to mass on the Saturday evening sufficient for them not to issue a general clarification. My advice therefore is to follow what your local bishop thinks about the issue.
Clearly though, the bishops do agree that depending on the case, one mass is enough for both the holyday and Sunday when they fall on consecutive days and next year they have decided that one mass is enough for both Sunday and the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, they could have decided to transfer the obligation to observe, but they decided one mass was enough for two feasts as they are on consecutive days, even though it involves the patronal feast day. It is a clear principle in canon law to use the mind of the legislator and context to solve simlar doubts, which leads some canon lawyers to hold that Saturday evening Mass is enough for the obligation of both Saturday and Sunday this weekend.
As far as most are concerned it is not an open case with CL, and no you are not clearing up anything. You are being obstinate. I private messaged you because this would end in an argument that cannot be solved on the open forum. You are proving my thoughts to be correct.
Please produce one statement, official statement, from any US bishop stating what you claim is true.
Furthermore, you cannot refute my private message just by saying it is wrong, my answer is, no you’re wrong, wait no you’re wrong, no you’re wrong. See, that doesn’t work very well. What a person must do is go to the experts who have stated what we have posted here and most of them seem to agree with what has been posted here; 2 obligations means 2 Masses, and yet you choose to argue, for what ever reason, to the contrary.
What you fail to accept is a true factor in the IC 2013 issue, and the Christmas Day/Sunday Mass issue; in either case the solemnity which holds highest rank, in the two cases you set your hopes on, it goes like this; 2013 IC = transferred to Monday the 9th of December so there is no obligation for Mass on the 9th or the 8th for the IC solemnity. The Sunday feast day trumps because of liturgical rank the IC feast day.
The Christmas on Sunday issue is just as simple. The Solemnity of Christmas trumps the Sunday obligation because it ranks as a higher Solemnity; therefore, each of these Sundays you use to make your arguments only hold one obligation according to the Church. Now if you choose to go to two Masses those days, you can; however they will both be of their respective Solemnities; 2nd Sunday of Advent and Christmas respectfully.
After this post I will not debate you directly, although I will refute improper posts by you or any one else.