American Catholic gives different figures to you.
22+51+27 = 100. So 100% the cases in the John Jay study were minors, not 4%.
Yeah it is. The early Church produced the only copies of the New Testament which made it into the Modern Canon. That was the Church that became Catholic. Or would you prefer the Bible that was not accepted by the early Church? The Gnostic heresies are outside the Church. I trust you feel much the same way about the Gnostic heresies that I do. If you accept that the Bible is the inspired, infallible, incontrovertible and literal Word of God, as I do, you must consider that all you have, the inspired word of God, has been recorded by men. If your Church is not from the line of the Apostles than it is an apostate and there is little truth in it. Even Martin Luther recognised the good of the Church, which is why he was called a Reformer. The majority of honest protestants admit that they believe they are trying to correct perceived “damages” that the Church has propogated. By the by, are you aware that Martin Luther had planned to remove certain books from the New Testament? Anyway, I would strongly recommend you take some time to do more research to back up your claims. The best of Fundamentalist Evangelists are incredibly well-read and learned. My personal hero being Billy Graham. At any rate…
A. You are the one who claimed your “church” was started by a man who got himself “saved”. I think it’s safe to conclude that that church starter was not God.
When I was a Fundamentalist, we were told the history, even secular history, was “corrupted by the papists”. The implication was we were to trust no one except the pastor. In my experience Fundamentalism isn’t too different from a cult.A. You are the one who claimed your “church” was started by a man who got himself “saved”. I think it’s safe to conclude that that church starter was not God.
B. I’m very well aware what Paul teaches.
C . So you interpreted my invitation to Rome as an attempt to convert you? May I remind you that you are on a Catholic Site.
D. Soooo, I invite you now to pick up a history book or an encyclopedia to read the history of Christianity. You may call that invitation what you will.
Rightlydivide, I am glad that you are here; make no mistake of that, but I MUST ask: why are you here at CAF, knowing full well that nothing said here at CAF, will convince you that the Catholic Church is the church of Matthew 16, John 16, John 14, Acts 1 and 2 and Matthew 28:20, and knowing full well that the Catholic church is absolutely not for you, which one can only conclude that you are not interested in learning anything about the Catholic faith?
lol, no changes happening any time soon Joe?Rightlydivide, I am glad that you are here; make no mistake of that, but I MUST ask: why are you here at CAF, knowing full well that nothing said here at CAF, will convince you that the Catholic Church is the church of Matthew 16, John 16, John 14, Acts 1 and 2 and Matthew 28:20, and knowing full well that the Catholic church is absolutely not for you, which one can only conclude that you are not interested in learning anything about the Catholic faith?
Thank you! Glad to be back!
JL: I thought I woud repost this in case you really missed it
It was a simple analogy that had nothing to do with nationalism, but again, my answer to the OP is: I don’t know!This was a wise choice under these circumstances. It is also good you came here to CAF, so that, when the time is right, you will be able to give an account of your faith. In the meantime, pray for them, and thank God that you are Blessed:
You are right that most people spout drivel and have no idea what they are talking about. Some of the worst are those baptized in the Church who never learned their faith. These are the ones that are also easily sucked out of the Church. I know, I used to be one of them!
Most people have been misled with lies or at the least, misinformation. For a good dose of anti-Catholic rhetoric, google Jack Chick.
I think this is a common misperception of people who have little knowledge of their history. All the Protestant ecclesial communities came out of the Catholic Church.
But…I know as much or more about history than most on this forum. Curious statement then.I think this is a common misperception of people who have little knowledge of their history. All the Protestant ecclesial communities came out of the Catholic Church.
Now, before you say “but I am not Protesting anything”, I will add that modern American “bible churches” who believe that their faith came out of the bible are still dependent upon the Catholic Church, since the Bible is a Catholic book, and no bible churches would be in existence at all without it.
This is a good example of a modern American Bible Church. The members’ ideas about Church, and about Christianity are extracted from the pages of Holy Scripture. Although the Source is Catholic (the Scriptures) they were never intended to be used in separation from the faith that produced them, which is One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. Without these four marks, an ecclesial community is not a “Church”, in the sense that the Apostles. taught.
Thank you for sharing this great witness, Rightly. It is testimony that the HS is working through these ecclesial commuities to produce such results, just as the Catechism teaches. I hope you will soon come home to the Catholic Church. .
I don’t think this is a fair question, catsrus. Of course they will not believe that! Each of them believe they are being led by the Holy Spirit, and are following what they believe God has revealed to them.