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Pax_et_Bonum
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Another Martin Luther.Oh-hum.This Church sounds VERY Protestant to begin with.Satan LOVES to attack priests.The first duty of any priest is OBEDIENCE to his Bishop.It is a VOW.
Michael Pfleger says he will preach at other churches if not reinstated
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Timothysis
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From said website:
"The Faith Community of St. Sabina is a Word-based, Bible teaching church that believes in the power of praise and worship. We are a spiritual hospital where all are welcome and invited to “taste and see the goodness of the Lord.”
“However, considering the current state of the economy, we believe that removing him at this time would be devastating to both our parish and the Auburn Gresham community. We also know that it is Father Pfleger’s desire to remain as pastor of Saint Sabina. Further, we feel that as leadership we should be granted the respect of being involved in any process of succession planning for the future of our parish.”
I personally think that it is the parish that “made” Father Pfleger, not the other way around. There used to be an expression that he has “gone native;” I think that is what happened here.
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Timothysis
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Here are the Mass times, though it refers to them as “services” instead of Mass;
Unity Sunday 10 AM ( First Sunday of every month and sometimes at other special occasions - there is one service)
Sunday 8:30 AM and 11:15 AM (On the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th Sunday of every month there are two services)
Saturday at 5 PM
Tuesday Weekly Bible Study at 7 PM will resume in September
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StevieD
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I see that there is a page entitled ‘Pictures of the Pastor’ showing Fr. Pfleger in various poses - this says it all. Apparently a large majority of the congregation are not Catholics anyway.
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Beau_Ouiville
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Now why, on a forum where photographs are rare, were we treated to a picture of Fr. Pfleger with Rev. Jackson? I don’t think it adds anything to the discussion.
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1holycatholic
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It’s a recent image of Fr. Pfleger from the news article, probably the most recent one the Chicago Sun-Times had on file.
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wild_thing
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Frankly, both the parish and the priest sound like they are weeds among wheat.
"The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field. While everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds all through the wheat, and then went off. When the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well. The slaves of the householder came to him and said, “Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where have the weeds come from?” He answered, “An enemy has done this.” His slaves said to him, “Do you want us to go and pull them up?” He replied, "No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until the harvest; then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, “First, gather the weeds and tie them into bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.’” (Mat. 13: 24-30).
"The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field. While everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds all through the wheat, and then went off. When the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well. The slaves of the householder came to him and said, “Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where have the weeds come from?” He answered, “An enemy has done this.” His slaves said to him, “Do you want us to go and pull them up?” He replied, "No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until the harvest; then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, “First, gather the weeds and tie them into bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn.’” (Mat. 13: 24-30).
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Beau_Ouiville
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I don’t know where you get that. I was at two weddings of my third cousins (once removed) there. They are Catholic. When they buried their mother out of that parish it was at a funeral Mass. She was Catholic, too. From birth as were her grandparents.
But, I wouldn’t know as much as other commentators here since I have actually attended services at St. Sabina’s.
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Beau_Ouiville
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And why did that image appear on this thread? Folks were trying to score partisan points, although we know that the current issue as to the pastor does not involve anything partisan.
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1holycatholic
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The image was included because the image is in the linked article.
Who was trying to score partisan points?
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Beau_Ouiville
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I think the original poster. How many threads here start with a picture? Almost none.
You know. the times are just about the same as in my parish:
“Weekend Mass
Saturday 8:30 am and 5:30 pm, Sunday 8:30 am and 11:00 am”
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Timothysis
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When I was in London recently I noticed that Anglican churches listed “services” on the placards outside of the church. At Catholic Churches, we list “Mass times.”
I posted the time of the “services” to show that there are only 1 to 2 Masses on Sundays. At my parish, which I’m sure is a lot smaller than St. Sabina, there are 3 Ordinary Forms and 1 Extraordinary Form Masses every Sunday and Holy Day of Obligation. This quote from their website, "The Faith Community of St. Sabina is a Word-based, Bible teaching church that believes in the power of praise and worship. We are a spiritual hospital where all are welcome and invited to “taste and see the goodness of the Lord” reads more protestant/evangelical than it does Catholic. Catholic Churches do not usually classify themselves as “word-based, Bible teaching church that believes in the power of praise and worship.” As Catholics, we believe in the Eucharist and the sacraments that Christ instituted.
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TrueLight
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I’m sorry. What is the issue with this priest?
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1holycatholic
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Lots of the threads I start have a picture.
Do you think the Chicago Sun-Times has an “agenda?”
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Beau_Ouiville
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My parish is larger than St. Sabina and has the same number of Masses.
And if they do, then what? You should note that the cardinal has attended services at the church.
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Beau_Ouiville
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The cardinal stated that the issue is obedience to vows.
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Beau_Ouiville
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I consider that lots of exaggeration.
No, I think the OP does.
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1holycatholic
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:ehh:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=559976
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=561236
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=555660
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=555651
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=555037
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=554954
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=547008
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Pax_et_Bonum
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And you don’t.Spare me weevil.
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Beau_Ouiville
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Well, don’t mis-name me.
My agendas are upfront: Truth, Justice, Ethics, Religion and the American Way. But if a thread about a liberal priest is started and features a picture of the conservative’s whipping boy who is unrelated to the issue, then I think some mention of the unstated agenda should be stated.
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