Michael Voris: Weapons of 'MASS' Destruction

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Tremendous presentation. This is information every Catholic must know.
 
The Destruction of the Catholic Faith!

Pretty good presentation. For a detailed look at the history of the changes in the Mass I highly recommend the new book by Fr. Anthony Cekada: “Work of Human Hands; A Theological Crituque of the Mass of Paul VI”. All presented in this video and much more is covered in detail.

As to if Bugnini was a Mason, in 1975 he was removed as Secretary of Congregraton for Divine Worship and exiled to Iran as Apostolic Delegate. It is said that his briefcase was left after a meeting at the Vatican Secretarist of State. The monsignor who found the briefcase opened it to determine ownership and discovered letters addressed to Bungini, as a brother, from the Grand Master of the Italian Freemasonary. The evidence was passed along to Paul VI who approved Bungini’s dismissal. This is from an article from “Inside the Vatican” entitled “The End of One Mystery”, 19 July, 2009.

http://www.insidethevatican.com/newsflash/2009/newsflash-jul-19-09.htm#G1280786124165

See “The Briefcase Left Behind”

As to the validity of the new Mass I would suggest one read: “The Sky Grows Darker Yet” by Patrick Henry Omlor and decide for themselves.
 
Michael Voris rocks! 😃

I love his videos. I wish there were more Catholics like him on the news.
 
Ok, so this is the thread that at least for now is not calling him Jack Chick…

I loved it. Really liked the priest Fr. Paul Nicholson and thought it was very thought provoking material. And correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he offer all the documentation that went into the production on the website? Not documenting sources seems to be a major beef amongst those in opposition to what he reported-on the other threads.

I think one of the most interesting ideas was how the Liturgy has become emasculated in the last 40-50 years. Ya know, I think there’s a valid point there…don’t get all feminism militant on me here…But, as a mother of only sons I can see what he’s saying. Lots of the touchy feely, group hug atmosphere we have is very feminine…and largely unappealing to males. I am going to ponder that one and look for some more works on that. Think about what he said about having to be a performer.

And this is going to light a BIG fire…but the feminine agenda has been promoted by a very large presence of not particularly masculine clergy in the last decades…we have some who are so effeminate that I feel like it’s a drag show. And I’m sorry, I know we are to love everyone, but this again is repellent to boys and I really believe it HAS effected the priesthood and male involvement in the Church.
 
PJR said:
And this is going to light a BIG fire…but the feminine agenda has been promoted by a very large presence of not particularly masculine clergy in the last decades…we have some who are so effeminate that I feel like it’s a drag show.
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You’re talking about lace albs, lace surplices, cappa magnas, fringed copes, that sort of stuff, right? No?
 
PJR said:
the feminine agenda has been promoted by a very large presence of not particularly masculine clergy in the last decades
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You mean “feminist,” I think. Not sure what the feminine agenda is, unless it has something to do with flowers on Valentine’s Day and rearranging furniture. 😃
 
MarkThompson said:
You’re talking about lace albs, lace surplices, cappa magnas, fringed copes, that sort of stuff, right? No?
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It’s not about what is worn but the manner in which it is worn. Priestly vestments are actually hyper-masculine.
 
JoanREDirector said:
It’s not about what is worn but the manner in which it is worn. Priestly vestments are actually hyper-masculine.
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Maybe, maybe not. From what I know of the history of vestments, most of them are derived from ancient noblemens’ wear, and probably would not, in their time, have been described as “hyper-masculine,” but rather as hyper-refined. At any rate, if the poster above was suggesting that modern vestments are too effeminate whereas more boys would be attracted by the masculinity of the vestments which are no longer common (meaning what, cassocks and lace?), that seems a pretty baseless hypothesis.
 
MarkThompson said:
You’re talking about lace albs, lace surplices, cappa magnas, fringed copes, that sort of stuff, right? No?
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No not necessarily…usually just your run of the mill gay priest promoting an agenda…but sometimes using all the “traditional” vestments is a nice touch…old women love it and comment on how beautifully Father “performs Mass”

Kind of looks like the guys dressed up as Carmelite nuns at the Pride parade…they must be very “Orthodox” gays.

Don’t try to lump me in with the stupidity that trappings make for Orthodoxy…but also don’t be so quick to assume that some of these traditions didn’t have great merit for the Church. I’ve never even been to a TLM, but I’m not so hard headed that I can’t look at evidence and consider it’s worth.

You don’t have to think we need the TLM back to see that the church is in need of looking at itself in the mirror very closely…and that begins with myself as a member of it I know. I just think it was a valid point-worth looking at.
 
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Aren’t those very specifically masculine? Women can’t wear any of them.
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If a priest’s vestment had a big bustle in the back and was topped by pink ribbons and lace, would we still say that it was, by definition, masculine, since it is to be worn by priests and only men are eligible to the priesthood? That doesn’t strike me as a very perceptive way of viewing the matter.
PJR said:
No not necessarily…usually just your run of the mill gay priest promoting an agenda…but sometimes using all the “traditional” vestments is a nice touch…old women love it and comment on how beautifully Father “performs Mass”

Kind of looks like the guys dressed up as Carmelite nuns at the Pride parade…they must be very “Orthodox” gays.

Don’t try to lump me in with the stupidity that trappings make for Orthodoxy…but also don’t be so quick to assume that some of these traditions didn’t have great merit for the Church. I’ve never even been to a TLM, but I’m not so hard headed that I can’t look at evidence and consider it’s worth.

You don’t have to think we need the TLM back to see that the church is in need of looking at itself in the mirror very closely…and that begins with myself as a member of it I know. I just think it was a valid point-worth looking at.
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Personally, I like the old vestments – lace, capes, embroidery, and all – quite a bit better than modern vestments with their “noble simplicity.” I like cassocks better than the “priest-suit.” I’m just not willing to suggest that somehow vestments have gotten a lot more effeminate and that that’s our problem.
 
MarkThompson said:
Maybe, maybe not. From what I know of the history of vestments, most of them are derived from ancient noblemens’ wear, and probably would not, in their time, have been described as “hyper-masculine,” but rather as hyper-refined. At any rate, if the poster above was suggesting that modern vestments are too effeminate whereas more boys would be attracted by the masculinity of the vestments which are no longer common (meaning what, cassocks and lace?), that seems a pretty baseless hypothesis.
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I was NOT talking about vestments…I was trying to without coming out-pardon the pun-and saying so…gay priests. We do seem to have an agenda in the ranks of clergy to cover that up. Fr. Paul’s comments on being uncomfortable with the femininity of some of the current liturgy was “thought provoking”.
 
PJR said:
I was NOT talking about vestments…I was trying to without coming out-pardon the pun-and saying so…gay priests. We do seem to have an agenda in the ranks of clergy to cover that up. Fr. Paul’s comments on being uncomfortable with the femininity of some of the current liturgy was “thought provoking”.
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Ah, good to know. Right, I guess our liturgy has somehow gotten more effeminate than this:

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MarkThompson said:
Ah, good to know. Right, I guess our liturgy has somehow gotten more effeminate than this:

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v132/196/104/662887830/n662887830_215273_7898.jpg
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Well, that was his opinion as a priest. It had never occurred to me in that way before. That would explain why my husband is so turned off by all the “performing” that I find so “special”.

Sorry I so badly bungled what ever the h*** I was trying to say.

And I guess I’ll have to go and get my bra out of the ash pan…but he was right about how attractive a strong Godly man is to a woman…it in no way is an obstacle to my femininity…or FEMINISM…now I have said it correctly I hope :o …and we are in a crisis of Godly fathers in this world.
 
Sure looks like the gates of hell are doing some pretty serious prevailing, if you ask me.
 
I watched the first half and quit. It is same information I have heard before, but it is presented extremely well. Still, I do not not by the Masonic Conspiracy, sneaking in to destroy the Catholic Church, Protestant secret agents or anything else. I will stick with the Holy Father on this.

There were no use of cartoon satirization, so this is not like Jack Chick. I am very pleased that the Tridentine Mass is much more available for those who want it.
 
I thought Voris and the Priest did a fantastic job. They presented the information clearly and powerfully.

All of this is the first I have heard of Protestants being invited to “observe” the proceedings of Vatican II. The accusations of 6 Protestants supposedly masterminding the Reform with Bugnini are plain astounding to me. (I know Voris didn’t go into this aspect.) Does anyone here know why Protestants would be involved in any capacity whatsoever? Even as “guests” or “observers”? I don’t get it.
 
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