Miffed at bikini suggestion

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bobzills said:
The problem comes in when we read in the New Testatment:
Matt 5:28
28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
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Read Victorian authors and you will see where the sight of a woman’s ankle was a “turn on” in the days when women were draped from head to foot.

Having lived in a Muslim country, I can tell you that Muslims can find a fully-draped and veiled woman stimulating.

The sin, it appears, originates in the beholder.
 
SeekerJen said:
Remembering what I was like as a teenager when a shirtless, well-built man walked by, I don’t agree with it either.

Guys, you can tell yourselves all you want that women aren’t visually stimulated or tempted to lust, so you can wear whatever you like and it doesn’t matter. I can assure you that this attitude is a cop-out. Besides, even if you won’t dress modestly for the ladies, do it for your brothers who struggle with same-sex attraction. They have the same sex drive and low threshold for visual stimulus that you do, but theirs is disordered. Won’t you help them out?
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Fine then, i shall no longer wear a bikini on the beach.
 
thechrismyster said:
Fine then, i shall no longer wear a bikini on the beach.
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Sarcasm doesn’t help the issue, thanks, although I know that you are often averse to any suggestion that what people choose to wear does matter in some situations.
 
SeekerJen said:
Sarcasm doesn’t help the issue, thanks, although I know that you are often averse to any suggestion that what people choose to wear does matter in some situations.
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zing… ouch.

i believe we are custodians of our own eyes. my thoughts have always sided with personal responsibility… take responsibility for our own shortcomings and stop relying on others to help. help will not come. there is only our own reaction.

i can train a dog to not snap at a piece of steak sitting on its nose. why can we expect more out of dogs than ourselves? all attempts to blame others for our own weaknesses are simply excuses.

we should be custodians of ourselves. perfection comes when we master our own thoughts without dependency on others for help.

and sarcasm was not the purpose of the post … it was an attempt at a chuckle. made me laugh if nothing else. humor is lacking on this board as of late.
 
thechrismyster said:
zing… ouch.

i believe we are custodians of our own eyes. my thoughts have always sided with personal responsibility… take responsibility for our own shortcomings and stop relying on others to help. help will not come. there is only our own reaction.

i can train a dog to not snap at a piece of steak sitting on its nose. why can we expect more out of dogs than ourselves? all attempts to blame others for our own weaknesses are simply excuses.

we should be custodians of ourselves. perfection comes when we master our own thoughts without dependency on others for help.

and sarcasm was not the purpose of the post … it was an attempt at a chuckle. made me laugh if nothing else. humor is lacking on this board as of late.
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I actually agree with you. However, most do not appear to, so in that light, perhaps we need to consider that we are the ones in the wrong and act accordingly.
 
SeekerJen said:
I actually agree with you. However, most do not appear to, so in that light, perhaps we need to consider that we are the ones in the wrong and act accordingly.
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There is a statue of David in Hyde Park in London. Originally, it faced the sidewalk, but was turned around during the Victorian Era, for fear ladies would get the Vapours when they saw it.😃
 
SeekerJen said:
We are not Muslim, and while I find it admirable that the Muslim culture encourages modesty, I do not wish for Catholic women to be guilted into dressing as if we were under Sharia law.

A conservatively cut tankini or tank suit is sufficient for modest swimwear.
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I agree. However, after getting some sunburn at the beach this past week, I’m thinking the burkini idea has some merit! At least for us fair-skinned women who don’t want to burn. There was a woman at the beach with 2 young children who was wearing a burkini style suit–long pants and a long sleeved shirt made out of the same type of fabric that surfer shirts are made from (not wet-suit fabric). Her daughters were both wearing the shortsleeved-short pants type one piece suit that I’ve often seen for children. My daugher and I both thought they looked great–from the sunburn angle–and also to keep sand out of your suit!
 
A comment I saw on another thread seems to fit here as well:

“If it’s not for sale, don’t advertise it.”
 
SeekerJen said:
I actually agree with you. However, most do not appear to, so in that light, perhaps we need to consider that we are the ones in the wrong and act accordingly.
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i couldn’t care less what most people would or wouldn’t consider to be right in a given situation. truth is not majority rule.
 
But why have hairdressers at the beach at all? I guess these women aren’t actually swimming in the sea, or having sand blown in their hair, or anything like that. Or maybe the hairdressers are just for on the way out, so you don’t look like you’ve been doused by a wave when you leave!
 
I have a few years yet to plan since my oldest of 3 girls is now 6, but I intend to sit them down and say:

Honey, let me tell you something about guys. If a guy meets a beautiful woman who is dressed in a way that deliberately places her body front and center in the sight of all who see her, the body is all the guy is going to notice. There are two problems with this.
  1. The kind of guy you are likely to attract is the kind of guy who only cares what you look and feel like, not who you are. Why would you want to attract his attention?
  2. The kind of guy who DOES want to meet a woman who knows and loves God is, fairly or not, going to make some unconscious assumptions about a woman he sees who is not dressing modestly.
So be try to take the long view. You may indeed get some admiring glances that might make you feel good for a moment. But the price is that you will be LESS likely to get noticed by the kind of guy you WANT to notice you. Which do you value more?
 
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