Military Cuggles

[GKC]

Not conspiracy. Reason being that conspiracy is just that until proved otherwise, and because it is not likely to be proved, so it will always remain. And it is not likely anyway.

So the other reason is what you said further way down - idiocy. Venturing into unknowns.

If you look at the link you will see a nice big colour photograph of squadies doing Yoga!

Cameras don’t lie as well as that, and neither do image-editing programs.

It is this simple: Yoga is a multi-billion dollar industry. FACT. It is big business and it is being pushed. FACT. It is reported by ‘Yogis’ and Christian Religious researchers to be very difficult if not impossible to separate from non-Christian Eastern Religious spirituality. VERY LIKELY-FACT. We have proof that the U.S military are doing Yoga. FACT. The U.S could start, if they haven’t already, incorporating the spirituality side of things into Yoga - into their Yoga ‘exercise’. VERY POSSIBLE-LIKELY. This means someone had to have taught Yoga. FACT. This means someone at some higher up level had to suggest Yoga. FACT. This means someone had to authorise Yoga. FACT. This means that someone had to research Yoga. FACT. Someone had to do business with those involved in Yoga. FACT. People who are higher up the ladder in Yoga money-making circles. VERY LIKELY (now it gets ropey).

So, when we look at this info., we can clearly see how there are quite a few facts and not that many speculative ideas shining forth like a new moon already.

One little bit of info. starts a chain of action and consequence or cause and effect - the cause being the unclear grey areas but the effect being the facts leading to questions needing to be asked of the causes. Sometimes we never find out the causes but can read situations by knowing what effects lead to good and what effects lead to less good.

I don’t have any tin foil. Would baking paper do?

Baking paper not recommended. Not enough reflectivity. Also, you can’t ground it.

No question that’s a pic of squadies stretching and grunting. Now what you have to do is demonstrate a squad refusing a competent authority’s order to go places, kill people, and break things, and make a plausible connection to yoga-think. And connect it plausibly to a mindset caused by yoga. That’s the facts you need. You don’t have them. All you have is military not being ordered to disperse stuff randomly in an incoherent mess, and not doing so, at a given point in time and a given situation (we’re aren’t on the ground in the Middle East). You have no idea why, if you try to link it to yoga. No connection. No chain. No effect, to speculate a cause for.

I can explain it for you but I can’t understand it for you.

 

[friardchips]

Baking paper not recommended. Not enough reflectivity. Also, you can’t ground it.

No question that’s a pic of squadies stretching and grunting. Now what you have to do is demonstrate a squad refusing a competent authority’s order to go places, kill people, and break things, and make a plausible connection to yoga-think. And connect it plausibly to a mindset caused by yoga. That’s the facts you need. You don’t have them. All you have is military not being ordered to disperse stuff randomly in an incoherent mess, and not doing so, at a given point in time and a given situation (we’re aren’t on the ground in the Middle East). You have no idea why, if you try to link it to yoga. No connection. No chain. No effect, to speculate a cause for.

I can explain it for you but I can’t understand it for you.

Here’s some more pics to satisfy you that they are doing Yoga:

hinduhumanrights.info/us-military-includes-yoga-for-combat-perfection-and-healing/

The facts are that the U.S are not doing what they could be doing. One little incey-wincey possibility is that Yoga is affecting everyone. Which it can do. Speculation until proven, true, although not unfounded, in research to do with Yoga.

It is easy to contrast Catholic understanding with Yoga. They are not of the same origin. And this is all the evidence we need.

And so, one doesn’t have to prove anything beyond a certain point, because as I said, the effects speak for themselves. All one needs is a body of evidence proving that Yoga affects people in certain ways not good for army recruits and this proof can then be used to ask questions of the U.S military. And these days this action can be achieved by petitions - the voice of the people.

It could be seen as avoiding bad things before they happen. Unlike most things in the world that happen and then we all have to pick up the pieces after.

So again, all people need, is evidence that Yoga can and does affect people in ways that can have an adverse on those who practice it and the dangers. No need for proof of military abusing anything. Their lack of motivation is already there for all to see.

 

[friardchips]

…I mean, come on, how does one prove inane behaviour in the army without photo and video evidence. Maybe, through thier lack of (name removed by moderator)ut - what people won’t do!

It was terribly difficult to find this link btw… Took me at least one minute.

 

[Picky_Picky]

…I mean, come on, how does one prove inane behaviour in the army without photo and video evidence. Maybe, through thier lack of (name removed by moderator)ut - what people won’t do!

It was terribly difficult to find this link btw… Took me at least one minute.

Interesting those Sikh instructors in the Indian Army scenes. Noticeably unmilitary, weedy, lot the Sikhs: famous for it:

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1555508/History-of-Sikh-gallantry.html

 

[friardchips]

Interesting those Sikh instructors in the Indian Army scenes. Noticeably unmilitary, weedy, lot the Sikhs: famous for it:

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1555508/History-of-Sikh-gallantry.html

Thank you!

The Gurus/Yogis are in complete control then and can train the army however they like because a lot of Yoga is about ‘emptying the mind’. And if…

…the military are using Yoga for its ‘spiritual’ aspect, then why use Sikhs, and not run-of-the-mill Yoga ‘exercise’ practioners?

 

[friardchips]

You have just made one of my ‘possible-likely’ scenarios into ‘FACT’ - that Yoga is being used for its ‘spiritual’ nature as well.

 

[Picky_Picky]

Thank you!

The Gurus/Yogis are in complete control then and can train the army however they like because a lot of Yoga is about ‘emptying the mind’. And if…

…the military are using Yoga for its ‘spiritual’ aspect, then why use Sikhs, and not run-of-the-mill Yoga ‘exercise’ practioners?

You don’t think the Indian Army might be particularly expert in the value of Yoga to soldiers? Is that too simple an explanation?

 

[friardchips]

Underneath the article was a really good post by a blogger and I want to quote some of it:

'A lot of Yoga teachers have cynical critics about teaching yoga to a man carrying a gun.Is there really a conflict between the peaceful goal of yoga and the warrior attitude sealed to the image of a soldier…

Okay, so the Sikh post was valid here.

’It might seem strange but Yoga is about a continuous effort to change our Karma to a better one…'

This is coming from a Hindu perspective, not a Christian one. So a valid point here.

’It is about Feel good to feel God.It is true that the essence of yoga is not to harm any living creature in either thought , word or deed.Thus, discriminating about soldiers does not seem the right attitude for a yogi,’…

Defence of the weak is not wrong. And there is such a thing as a just war, even though is never good, in of itself. So again, a vliad point made by the blogger.

Let’s strive for a better world by adding more values and more humanity to a soldier…

EXACTLY! As opposed to changing the ways our minds are wired, why can’t we change our hearts. But this is far too difficult for the army. Easier to get a load of Eastern mystics and let them do the work with their magical hynposis.

He primarily joined the army to defend his country and fight for a just cause, before the politicians changed his course…’

Exactly.

This blogger proves what I said earlier: the voice of the people can carry through, and that there are still people out there who are not completely naive, ask questions and think with real intelligence.

 

[friardchips]

You don’t think the Indian Army might be particularly expert in the value of Yoga to soldiers? Is that too simple an explanation?

YES, it IS!

It is not a good idea.

Yoga spirituality is at odds with much of Christian understanding, faith and ethics.

Far too simple an explanation.

If you give your minds over to Yoga then you give your minds over to WHATEVER, literally, to any unknown.

Or is that too simple to understand?

 

[GKC]

Here’s some more pics to satisfy you that they are doing Yoga:

hinduhumanrights.info/us-military-includes-yoga-for-combat-perfection-and-healing/

The facts are that the U.S are not doing what they could be doing. One little incey-wincey possibility is that Yoga is affecting everyone. Which it can do. Speculation until proven, true, although not unfounded, in research to do with Yoga.

It is easy to contrast Catholic understanding with Yoga. They are not of the same origin. And this is all the evidence we need.

And so, one doesn’t have to prove anything beyond a certain point, because as I said, the effects speak for themselves. All one needs is a body of evidence proving that Yoga affects people in certain ways not good for army recruits and this proof can then be used to ask questions of the U.S military. And these days this action can be achieved by petitions - the voice of the people.

It could be seen as avoiding bad things before they happen. Unlike most things in the world that happen and then we all have to pick up the pieces after.

So again, all people need, is evidence that Yoga can and does affect people in ways that can have an adverse on those who practice it and the dangers. No need for proof of military abusing anything. Their lack of motivation is already there for all to see.

At all times, in all circumstances, the military has never been doing whatever everyone might want them to do. And that is because the military is an instrument of national polity, controlled by the constitutionally directed command structure, which functions in a pluralistic political context. Now, your requirement is to demonstrate that yoga is the reason that the military is not doing what you, or others, might desire or expect, in a given situation, and a given time. Here’s the idea. Find a deployed Marine Force Recon team, tasked to perform a black ops direct action. Demonstrate that the team has declined/refused to do so, and that they have been training using yoga for a specified period of time. Make an attempt to relate that to the spiritual aspect of yoga, as found in their training. (and training was my specialty in the military). You can find what is taught, if you wish, in the POIs/Lesson Plans).

Let me repeat, again what you have a problem grasping. The military is not self-activating. The command structure and command authority must order them to perform a given task. The 101st Airborne will not, be chartering CRAF widebodies to deploy to a theater of ops, to perform their special mayhem, based on whether or whether not they are “motivated,” by the specific circumstances or whether they have been turned into Ferdinand the Bulls, who decline to leave off sniffing the meadow flowers.To advance your silly thesis, you must demonstrate what you posit actually occurring: the military, being tasked, refusing to perform. Which goes back to my previous post about the requirement for you to show the infection up the chain of command. Either the action portion must refuse, or the tasking portion must refuse, or the command portion must refuse, and you must connect that not to a putative effect of yoga, but a demonstrated effect of yoga in someone’s training, at the level of non-action, somewhere. Yoga is not (in this sense) like “global warming”: something in the atmosphere that affects everyone, like the temperature does. If all you can see is a squad in the lotus position, and you understand ( I admit this is a stretch) that that squad, under any conditions, is not going to be doing anything, until and unless they are ordered to, you are failing in the dark…

And if you think that you don’t have to prove anything beyond a certain point, you fail to see you haven’t proved anything beyond any point at all. If all you see is squads sweating and stretching, you haven’t demonstrated that yoga can do anything you are assuming, and, even more critically, that it has done so, in the context you are misunderstanding. It’s *petitio principii * blathering.

 

[TARRAT]

The one great thing about media is it allows for transparency. And because we are all natives to the earth we have a right to know what is going on with those who claim power over us. For our own good and the good of others. And believe it or not, we also have a right to assess, for the same reason!

As proven by Hillary’s transparent e-mails.

 

[Picky_Picky]

YES, it IS!

It is not a good idea.

Yoga spirituality is at odds with much of Christian understanding, faith and ethics.

Far too simple an explanation.

If you give your minds over to Yoga then you give your minds over to WHATEVER, literally, to any unknown.

Or is that too simple to understand?

Lawks!

 

[friardchips]

Lawks!

I, is a simple boy, and know not what ‘Lawks’ mean, girrd squire…?

It is fair to say that army peole could do with NOT empyting their befuddled minds, over and above…, and furthermore, t’wud be more to the point, if they padded them out a bit with some good honest Christian understanding. Not fairy tales and “straw”.

We don’t want to end up with two-thousand donkeys under the sea.

 

[friardchips]

As proven by Hillary’s transparent e-mails.

How transparent, how did they even see them? Depending on the transparency, they maybe have gone away, thinking they’d simply viewed the inner workings of a laptop!

 

[friardchips]

Gonna post this again as it is true:

The issue here, is attempting to prove that people are entering into nothing, because you can’t prove something that is nothing. Even until that nothing ends up being the cause of something and those involved in the nothing are complicit! But by then, there is no point to it all because it is over and back to nothing again, or worse.

Now if someone like Kissenger thought the same theory as me, he could make changes by investigation, but unfortunately people at that height of power and influence would not be thinking about matters such as zany ‘avatar’-mind-control.

Operation mind-sweep, eh?! Nice ring to it.

 

[GKC]

Ya, I get. But the issue here is proving that people are doing nothing because you can’t prove something that is nothing. Even until that nothing ends up being complicit in something! But by then there is no point because it is over and back to nothing again.

Now if someone like Kissenger thought the same theory as me he could make changes by investigation but unfortunately people at that height of power and influence would not be thinking about matters such as zany ‘avatar’-mind-control.

Blathering.

Try the baking paper. Couldn’t hurt.

 

[friardchips]

Blathering.

Try the baking paper. Couldn’t hurt.

The baking paper is merely a step side-ways, not forward. This situation is far, far, far worse than you seemingly could ever imagine - tin foil hat, and all!

 

[GKC]

The baking paper is merely a step side-ways, not forward. This situation is far, far, far worse than you seemingly could ever imagine - tin foil hat, and all!

As you have notably, conspicuously, and totally failed to support, let alone demonstrate. You must demonstrate, not assert.

OTOH, it is a post padding exercise.

 

[friardchips]

As you have notably, conspicuously, and totally failed to support, let alone demonstrate. You must demonstrate, not assert.

OTOH, it is a post padding exercise.

edited.

 

[GKC]

I choose to do this exercise rather than Yoga. As this nothing doesn’t doesn’t have any consequences.

I’'ve noticed that. Lacks a few other things, too, in places.