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friardchips said:
Agreed, participating in nothing, is most certainly pointless!

But pointing to something, within the practice of nothing, is not.
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No, asserting something is nothing. Demonstrating something is something.

You are posting the board equivalent of the Seinfeld show
 
…I can only assert through pointing, not prove through demonstration, because one cannot demonstrate nothing, one can only assert through pointing out the something in nothing.
 
friardchips said:
…I can only assert through pointing, not prove through demonstration, because one cannot demonstrate nothing, one can only assert through pointing out the something in nothing.
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Agreed, you are asserting “nothing”. There is nothing in your asserting.
 
Two scenarios:

If you were to look at a signpost when you had no idea where you were going, would you think the signpost was useless, even after following it had led you to your realised destination?

If you were to see a sign post when you had a place you wanted to avoid, and upon seeing the sign, were able to go in a different direction, would you then think the signpost was pointless, even though upon having looked at it you never visited the place you never wanted to go?
 
First point: just because an assertion isn’t the actual realisation of where you want to go, doesn’t make the assertions in the journey up to that point, pointless.

Second point: just because something is left in the abstract, doesn’t mean it never really existed, and if our assertion helps to avoid possible dangers while that danger is still in the abstract, then we can’t call that assertion an “assertion” anymore, but rather, “intelligence”…

I think they use that word in the army, or so I believe. Maybe not anymore.
 
friardchips said:
First point: just because an assertion isn’t the actual realisation of where you want to go, doesn’t make the assertions in the journey up to that point, pointless.

Second point: just because something is left in the abstract, doesn’t mean it never really existed, and if our assertion helps to avoid possible dangers while that danger is still in the abstract, then we can’t call that assertion an “assertion” anymore, but rather, “intelligence”…

I think they use that word in the army, or so I believe. Maybe not anymore.
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Oh, yes, they certainly do. However, you have the same problem with it, and a couple of other words, as Vizzini did.
 
friardchips said:
Two scenarios:

If you were to look at a signpost when you had no idea where you were going, would you think the signpost was useless, even after following it had led you to your realised destination?

If you were to see a sign post when you had a place you wanted to avoid, and upon seeing the sign, were able to go in a different direction, would you then think the signpost was pointless, even though upon having looked at it you never visited the place you never wanted to go?
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Or, one might take precautions against chemtrails.

Thus avoiding the deleterious affects asserted to be associated with them.

Or one might wait to see the existence of chemtrails demonstrated and analyzed.

Your signposts are marked Beware of the effects of yoga on military effectiveness.

And the Emperor has no clothes. You might as well assert the efficacy of strewing torn bits of paper around, in your home town, as a demonstrated sovereign remedy against tigers. Or alien invasions. No tigers demonstrated. No aliens to be found. System works
 
GKC said:
Or, one might take precautions against chemtrails.

Thus avoiding the deleterious affects asserted to be associated with them.

Or one might wait to see the existence of chemtrails demonstrated and analyzed.

Your signposts are marked Beware of the effects of yoga on military effectiveness.

And the Emperor has no clothes. You might as well assert the efficacy of strewing torn bits of paper around, in your home town, as a demonstrated sovereign remedy against tigers. Or alien invasions. No tigers demonstrated. No aliens to be found. System works
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Aye! True.

Only difference is that my ‘assertions’ are based on logic, so they don’t remain as only possible ‘precautions against chemtrails’, because with chemtrails there is no reasonably sensible premise, but with the subject of Yoga, there is already a huge amount of information about the subject regarding the effects, all over the internet - either pointing towards practioners being subjected to the limitations of a fuzzy wuzzy rainbow-coloured mind bubble or the opposite which is excessive aggression - by reviews that are about as peer as they can be, as peer as the people teaching it to the military, and obviously from more educated people than those who have been persuaded to undertake such a practice. Statistics are statistics. It is what it is. They are there to see…

Now, what you are saying: that until proven, a theory is only a meaningless theory, is not a viable argument. Although it is true to the extent, that unless acted upon and remains only theory, the outcome somewhat does make the assertions pointless. Hindsight is useless if the abstract outcome has materialised and passed. However, if one is making assertions, and then someone who has legal access to certified and classified data, thinks: “Ah, maybe these logical assertions are to be followed up on”, and follows up on them, then the assertions will be so much more, as a result. Because, the ‘likelihood’ - yes, this is a word in the dictionary, and one which is useful, because if it were not, then there would be no such thing as ‘prediction’ either - is far greater a possibility than some silly chemtrail conspiracy as the assertions in this case, as stated, are logical…this is logic based on the past experiences of many people who have taught it and practiced it.

So the bulk of the work has been done, enough to build some logical assertions, but I, am not someone who can turn these assertions into anything more fruitful than a logical theory, and so shall remain as dust.
 
friardchips said:
Aye! True.

Only difference is that my ‘assertions’ are based on logic, so they don’t remain as only possible ‘precautions against chemtrails’, because with chemtrails there is no reasonably sensible premise, but with the subject of Yoga, there is already a huge amount of information about the subject regarding the effects, all over the internet - either pointing towards practioners being subjected to the limitations of a fuzzy wuzzy rainbow-coloured mind bubble or the opposite which is excessive aggression - by reviews that are about as peer as they can be, as peer as the people teaching it to the military, and obviously from more educated people than those who have been persuaded to undertake such a practice. Statistics are statistics. It is what it is. They are there to see…

Now, what you are saying: that until proven, a theory is only a meaningless theory, is not a viable argument. Although it is true to the extent, that unless acted upon and remains only theory, the outcome somewhat does make the assertions pointless. Hindsight is useless if the abstract outcome has materialised and passed. However, if one is making assertions, and then someone who has legal access to certified and classified data, thinks: “Ah, maybe these logical assertions are to be followed up on”, and follows up on them, then the assertions will be so much more, as a result. Because, the ‘likelihood’ - yes, this is a word in the dictionary, and one which is useful, because if it were not, then there would be no such thing as ‘prediction’ either - is far greater a possibility than some silly chemtrail conspiracy as the assertions in this case, as stated, are logical…this is logic based on the past experiences of many people who have taught it and practiced it.

So the bulk of the work has been done, enough to build some logical assertions, but I, am not someone who can turn these assertions into anything more fruitful than a logical theory, and so shall remain as dust.
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"1. Makes them too flowery in a selfish preoccupied way to actually be soldiers and go and do what soliders are meant to go and do?
  1. Because the root of Yoga is not Christian, does Yoga philosophy somehow mute outward compassion in the form of courageous service and protection of the innocent, into an aggressively self-protective, self-loving, irregular disposition?
  2. Because the U.S has done very little so far in helping in the Middle East, could it be the case that the practice of a non-Christian cult worship, actually turns the military against Christian causes?"
That’s what you need to prove/demonstrate. Them’s the assertions that have nothing behind them. The theory is not that yoga couldn’t do it (another unproved assumption in itself, but not the main point that must be demonstrated), but that yoga is being "practiced " in a way that makes it the reason the military is not doing something you would like the military to do, as suggested in the three silly theses. Military is not self initiated. Chain of command, authority, national command authority, all that stuff that has been explained to you. Your assertions are based on empty air, grounded on nothing demonstrable, related to any use of yoga, relating to military performance, ignoring what happened since 1990. You have no chemtrails to point to, you merely assume them. The statistics you need are of military ordered to, and declining to, perform military missions (go and do what soldiers do, when ordered to go and do it), and relate that to details of what yoga practices were actually taught, to those specific units. Demonstrate nature of training. Demonstrate actual failure to perform. Find, analyze and describe those chemtrails. Else, dust. Total, absolute, illogical, and unsupported dust. The military has a number of more earthy epithets for that sort of thing.
 
GKC said:
"1. Makes them too flowery in a selfish preoccupied way to actually be soldiers and go and do what soliders are meant to go and do?
  1. Because the root of Yoga is not Christian, does Yoga philosophy somehow mute outward compassion in the form of courageous service and protection of the innocent, into an aggressively self-protective, self-loving, irregular disposition?
  2. Because the U.S has done very little so far in helping in the Middle East, could it be the case that the practice of a non-Christian cult worship, actually turns the military against Christian causes?"
That’s what you need to prove/demonstrate. Them’s the assertions that have nothing behind them. The theory is not that yoga couldn’t do it (another unproved assumption in itself, but not the main point that must be demonstrated), but that yoga is being "practiced " in a way that makes it the reason the military is not doing something you would like the military to do, as suggested in the three silly theses. Military is not self initiated. Chain of command, authority, national command authority, all that stuff that has been explained to you. Your assertions are based on empty air, grounded on nothing demonstrable, related to any use of yoga, relating to military performance, ignoring what happened since 1990. You have no chemtrails to point to, you merely assume them. The statistics you need are of military ordered to, and declining to, perform military missions (go and do what soldiers do, when ordered to go and do it), and relate that to details of what yoga practices were actually taught, to those specific units. Demonstrate nature of training. Demonstrate actual failure to perform. Find, analyze and describe those chemtrails. Else, dust. Total, absolute, illogical, and unsupported dust. The military has a number of more earthy epithets for that sort of thing.
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Yes, I get. However…;)…

Proof of:

‘…*military ordered to, and declining to, perform military missions…’

…is not needed - you are probably not understanding why - and neither is:

‘…what yoga practices were actually taught, to those specific units…’

We already have some of this reported in widespread news.

‘Demonstrate nature of training. Demonstrate actual failure to perform*…’

Yes, the above (in bold type); yet, that is just part of it (some has been reported on already).

The second objective in your last sentence not needed.
 
friardchips said:
Yes, I get. However…;)…

Proof of:

‘…*military ordered to, and declining to, perform military missions…’

…is not needed - you are probably not understanding why - and neither is:

‘…what yoga practices were actually taught, to those specific units…’

We already have some of this reported in widespread news.

‘Demonstrate nature of training*. Demonstrate actual failure to perform…’

Yes, the above (in bold type); yet, that is just part of it (some has been reported on already).

The second objective in your last sentence not needed.
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Of course all of that is needed to support your assertions. Get on with it. Otherwise, you have nothing to point to, to explain. No chemtrails.

Else, earthy epithets.
 
GKC said:
Of course all of that is needed to support your assertions. Get on with it. Otherwise, you have nothing to point to, to explain. No chemtrails.

Else, earthy epithets.
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I’ll just swim the Atlantic then, find a U.S powerpoint adaptor and using my beard trimmers will shave my head, paint an avatar on it, falsify my passport with some felt tip pens, change my age on it (if people ask questions then I can always show them a bank statement - Tipp-Ex’d), perfect my U.S accent (I can also do various others, for fun), gain entry in the U.S army, work my way up quickly to senior military level, gain access to official military files, find out who orchestrated the whole Yoga thing and suggest to him or her that they run for President!, grow my hair back, become outspoken in the world of politics, berate politicians for their lack of motivation towards making social reforms, pay backhanders to celebrities, become president, sack the Yoga trainers, boot out the practioners, unhypnotise the soldiers, send troops to finish off ISIS, make abortion and euthanasia (if it isn’t already) illegal, shave my hair and scrub off the avatar that I forgot to remove, grow my hair back, get a cat, and a wife, shave the cat, question my sanity, grow the cat’s fur back, resign, work in Manhattan, feel estranged in a concrete oblivion only to be next seen ambling along in the dimly-lit streets of underground chicago (after moving from Manhattan), join a Religious Order, got to Nepal, help out, defect and become a Hindu, change my mind, go to Ireland, become a nunk (a monk-nun), find this too confusing, become a friar and live life trying not to think about what just happened…

…before remembering I am still married…:eek:

I did all that last year, in this weird dream I had! I couldn’t work out where the tin foil came in, though!
 
friardchips said:
I’ll just swim the Atlantic then, find a U.S powerpoint adaptor and using my beard trimmers will shave my head, paint an avatar on it, falsify my passport with some felt tip pens, change my age on it (if people ask questions then I can always show them a bank statement - Tipp-Ex’d), perfect my U.S accent (I can also do various others, for fun), gain entry in the U.S army, work my way up quickly to senior military level, gain access to official military files, find out who orchestrated the whole Yoga thing and suggest to him or her that they run for President!, grow my hair back, become outspoken in the world of politics, berate politicians for their lack of motivation towards making social reforms, pay backhanders to celebrities, become president, sack the Yoga trainers, boot out the practioners, unhypnotise the soldiers, send troops to finish off ISIS, make abortion and euthanasia (if it isn’t already) illegal, shave my hair and scrub off the avatar that I forgot to remove, grow my hair back, get a cat, and a wife, shave the cat, question my sanity, grow the cat’s fur back, resign, work in Manhattan, feel estranged in a concrete oblivion only to be next seen ambling along in the dimly-lit streets of underground chicago (after moving from Manhattan), join a Religious Order, got to Nepal, help out, defect and become a Hindu, change my mind, go to Ireland, become a nunk (a monk-nun), find this too confusing, become a friar and live life trying not to think about what just happened…

…before remembering Ihat am still married…:eek:

I did all that last year, in this weird dream I had! I couldn’t work out where the tin foil came in, though!
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The tinfoil would have prevented you from having that dream. Or at least allowed you to spot the unsupported assumption you swallowed while in it.

Else, that looks like a fine career path. Give it a shot. I think you have it in you.

Me, I have a beard trimmer, but never have used it. Scissors, all the way.
 
GKC said:
The tinfoil would have prevented you from having that dream. Or at least allowed you to spot the unsupported assumption you swallowed while in it.

Else, that looks like a fine career path. Give it a shot. I think you have it in you.
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I sure hope not!
Me, I have a beard trimmer, but never have used it. Scissors, all the way.
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👍
 
Of course, all that was complete twaddle, the art of twonk, pretty much the sum of what I think of unserious thinking in serious matters:

Don’ts :bluelite:

One can’t base an opinion on surmising.
On can’t rely on generalisations or speculation.
One can’t get inside info. if not in a position to.
One can’t believe in media-hype.
One can’t be swayed by the art of distraction.
One can’t get caught up in conspiracy theories (sell the tin/foil hat?).
DOs :hey_bud:

Have a theory based on the FACT of non-action or dubious practices.

Follow strings and research.

Check sources.

Collate quantifiable data.

Research strings of further sourced evidence.

Piece together a theorem.

Find someone who does know the military and get them to investigate.

Make the public aware.
No twaddle then…just sound reasoning turned solid constructive opposition.
 
'It was the best of* plugs;* it was the worst of plugs…

it was the age of ‘wisdom’;…the age of utter foolishness…

it was the age of military Yoga!’
 
…or so it doesn’t go! Actually, it makes more sense this way:

'It was the best of plugs; it was the worst of plugs…

it was the New Age of ‘wisdom’;…the age of utter foolishness…

it was the age of military Yoga!’

:hypno:
 
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