Military Cuggles

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GKC said:
What the book, with which I am familiar (as also the program that it describes, and other generally related programs in the military) reflects is another illustration of how the next Widgets for Midgets comes into being. It wasn’t popular culture.
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How doos?! It was a reflection of popular culture.
 
How else can, and why do writers, get their ideas if not from the things around them. The things 'in the air, so to speak! 🤷
 
friardchips said:
Nothing, can be a sign, like an assertion, leading to somewhere or a sign you use to vere away from.

But nothing can also be more than an “assertion”, it can be something definite.

IMO, nothing can go either way or remain still - it can contain a version of happiness or real joy and peace.

Working out which nothing one pertains to could be said to reveal the true depths of happiness. Depending on how one treats nothing. As long as we don’t simply relegate all nothings to the gutter.

Another point concerning why theories are not the ‘nothing in the gutter’ until proven more than jsut theory, is this:

If I have a theory about something, and it is something good, then yes, I hope it manifests into something real, but if I have a theory about something not so good, I hope it does not. So if theories are only nonsense until proven otherwise, then yes, it is still only theory, but may be a true theory I would rather wish did not manifest. It would be selfish of me to wish a theory of bad tidings to come true merely for my self to be proved right. So in this line of thinking, a theory might be a concern, a concern that if is correct, would be better if it were not true. In this case…the consequences.

This takes us back to nothing. And what we do with it. How do we treat nothing. Surely, we treat nothing like we treat everything else.

…maybe then, the good theories manifest and the not-so-good theories end up as gutter-nothings only.
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So, point being, that nothing can be something. It depends how well people treat nothing!
 
GKC, nothing is meaningless because really, nothing is still always something. Sure we can have nonsense thoughts. But if we believe that our lives and all of creation came to be through Him, then we know nothing is never nonsense, depending on how we treat it, amongst distractions. Our nothing can always be something. It depends how we understand nothing. When nothing much happens, dry spells for instance, do I then think something must be wrong and not in His hands and seek to always improve my own situation, maybe through doing Yoga, or some way to make myself more ‘powerful’, or do I accept my situation, my cross. Maybe I can use the time to pray and reflect. One can’t judge the motives of individuals, but one can have concern for the external actions of organisations, corporations, institutions, networks or government bodies - that for most people are beyond being communicated with directly for the average person - which affect the common good of the people whom they are there to serve and protect. We have a right to ask questions. Not in the way that I have conducted this silly thread **as it is **not good in hindsight. I am a bit embarrassed about the thread, actually. 😊 Nevertheless, the real questions behind the thread stand, but in charity, as we are not called to leave our integrity behind at the door of the Church, when we become Christians. Now I do ask this question, without aiming at individuals: why it is that the military don’t instead bring aboard many more Chaplains, maybe they do (?), and pray the Rosary? This is meditation - Catholic meditation! And this question could be asked of them directly. If we could. Maybe the military don’t know what they stand for. But altering their mind states in some oblique fashion is not going to answer their questions for them. Only doing what is right, in the light of the Cross, can. And turning to our Creator in prayer. Maybe communist governments would not agree, but as far as I knew, the U.S is a democracy. So all that I think can be done is to pray for them that those called to protect and serve recognise the True Way forward. Best wishes.

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friardchips said:
Let’s say Yoga was very possibly adapted for military “needs”.

New idea for Yoga:

Patient complains. Sees military psychologist. Then goes to Yoga practioner. Soldier goes back to troops feeling a bit better. Soldier revisits medic, who says: “Socks up soldier, how you doin’?” And there we have the beginnings of said-fad.
  • Assessed outcomes during Yoga.
  • Success or failure in reaching target objective.
  • Fine for illnesses. Soldiers apparently believed they were improving.
Okay, this all seems reasonably logical.

Yoga being used for medicinal purposes proves that Yoga in the military was and possibly still is encompassing the ‘spiritual’ aspects; hence, why the military have been using Sikhs to train them - quite long distances to go for just exercise!

To reiterate: the military have sikhs training their soldiers - unnecessary, if training is only simple exercise.

Research points to the fact that Yoga is a sum of its parts. There is no easy separation for Yoga from its philosophical and ‘spiritual’ origins.

From data provided by a poster who was in the military - new ideas have a regimented shelf-life based on performance targets.

So, soldiers feel a bit better from having done Yoga, and Yoga is kept as medicinal therapy in the U.S army…

Absolutely begging the question: when, how and why soldiers who were not ill, began training with the use of Yoga…?

What caused the army - what success in what practices - to deem it okay in reports for the use of Yoga to continue for routine army training for those who are not ill?

Was the practice / practices of Yoga challenged, and if so, what were the performance targets that allowed Yoga, despite being questioned, to carry over into routine army training for those whe are not ill?

What ‘strain’ of Yoga was kept and what strains were left to be used in the training of fit soldiers?

Who decided it was possible to split Yoga into strands?

When did the military bring in Sikhs, and why? Was this before or after performance targets were drawn up for the use of Yoga in the military?

**None of this can point to effective use of Yoga in military ops. **Especially if there is no action to be assessed.

Let me repeat this:

**None of this can point to effective use of Yoga in military ops. **Especially if there is no action to be assessed.

Only proof is in effective enhancment (or not) of troop’s performance in training.
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The silence was made up of a thousand words.
 
friardchips said:
Last night, a poster mentioned a film, that I had previously been thinking about in connection with this thread:

‘Men Who Stare At Goats’.

When I asked when it was made, they said 2009. I had been wondering whether the idea might have come about from popular culture - the above paragraph indicates this eventuality as being one possiblity - the Yoga article was published in 2003! It is often that films make (or appear to make) social commentaries (as if they have some inside info).

That said, apparently the book was written before, but in 2004 - after the report on Yoga in the military! :rolleyes:
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I enjoyed that movie. I thought it was quite offbeat, clever and droll.
 
Haha, as an active duty service member this is funny. What I would say has hindered the military is the liberal/progressive agenda.
 
LATEST REPORT:

Indian government officials from many countries meeting together for Yoga fiesta:

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/11639512/Indias-Modi-orders-civil-servants-to-join-early-morning-yoga.html

And training all their government employees in Yoga:

indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/yoga-classes-for-central-government-employees-from-april-1/

theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/mar/20/indian-civil-servants-to-get-free-daily-yoga-lessons

Next, it will be the U.S. If I was a gambling man I’d make money on this.

:rolleyes:
 
New (Age)s Just In

catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=3223

'For the last 125 years, New Age leaders worldwide have followed the false light of Theosophy; they now whisper into the itching ears of the powerful – politicians, media moguls, UN officials, foundation grant-makers, and Anglican bishops. As the West moves into a post-Christian era, the influence of the New Age movement grows…’
  • as my thread was suggesting: the New Age circles keep digging lower.
‘Helena Petrovna Blavatsky blended Eastern religion with Western occultism, establishing the Theosophical movement in 1875 in New York City. Theosophy has influenced occult, spiritualist “New Thought,” and New Age movements around the world ever since. For Blavatsky, the Lord is not God; mankind is. She says, "Man is truly the manifested deity in both its aspects – good and evil." Since mankind is god, it follows that “mankind will become freed from its false gods, and find itself finally --Self-Redeemed.” Or rather, some of mankind is “god-informed” and capable of self-redemption-- namely, “the Aryan and other civilized nations.” Others, “such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes” are “lower human creatures,” “inferior races” that are "now happily…dying out. Verily mankind is ‘of one blood,’ but not of the same essence. "’
  • western occultism!
Those who don’t wish to recognise this truth are those who are brainwashed into practicing Yoga and the sad thing is that once people are doing it they become emotionally bound, to what lies behind the pratice, yet devastatingly unattached, from reality.

And the politicians are endorsing Yoga!

The lyrics to *‘Ring of Fire’ *by J. Cash, comes to mind.
 
…NEWS JUST IN!..

:eek::eek::eek:

(Finally…)

Common decency has LEFT THE BUILDING…!

U.S. and U.K. citizens no longer NEED BE a slave to that awkward
common ethic of decency towards one’s fellow man.

Now there is no room for rules OF DECENCY to adhere to, because anything
goes, literally. We might as well stick a heading up on a public forum in Lime
Green. WHY NOT?

No more do Christians need to speak with authority or know their faith therefore
not giving non-Christians, and more specifically, non-Catholics, any reason to
trust our opinions.

Now the pressure is OFF!

Yes, sireee…‘OFF’ is the new GO - no more red light
warning: everything is green!

One might ask:
“SIGNALS BEING IGNORED?!
HOW SO?”
  • Professional soldiers instructed to practice Yoga as
    routine training when the military don’t even know all there
    is to know; some soldiers saying how extraordinary
    it is that they feel all this “extra power!”
    :eek:
  • People being too busy to help or call the emergency
    services when someone is in dire need because they are too
    busy snapping a picture for their online social
    networking page!
    :eek:
  • Hundreds of thousands of displaced persons seeking
    refuge in terrible conditions with the memory of loved ones
    having been brutally murdered; the best western governments
    can summon up is: “I don’t know what to do!”.
One might then ask:
"HOW IS THIS anything TO DO WITH
CATHOLICS,

…PLEASE DO TELL?!"

:eek::eek::eek:

religious RELATIVISM
 
Presence said:
Haha, as an active duty service member this is funny. What I would say has hindered the military is the liberal/progressive agenda.
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Since you are active, is your platoon doing yoga for PT? When I read this thread, my thought was this yoga was just an excuse to avoid running five miles and doing situps and pushups every day.
 
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