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gilliam
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Someone who wasn’t present during the incident in question
hotair.com/archives/2012/05/10/source-for-wapos-romney-hit-piece-actually-i-wasnt-present-during-the-prank/
Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’
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hotair.com/archives/2012/05/10/source-for-wapos-romney-hit-piece-actually-i-wasnt-present-during-the-prank/
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Kevin812
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Your crossing threads :tsktsk:
Romney is a bully… really nothing more needs to be said but that is unacceptable.
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Kevin812
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Kevin812
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Your crossing threads :tsktsk:
Romney is a bully… really nothing more needs to be said .
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Robert_Bay
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If true, all that can be said was Romney in High School was a bully. So were a lot of guys. Even Obama is not free of blemishes.
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Havard
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- Assuming it’s true
- He’s expressed regret for what pain may have caused, even though he doesn’t remember bullying. If the Risen Jesus would appear to the persecutor of Christians known as Saul and forgive him, (oh, and btw Saul is now regarded as Saint Paul the Apostle), I should think Romney would be okay.
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_Abyssinia
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What raises suspicions is the fact that the Washington Post either fabricated or did sloppy reporting on Stu White and claimed he said something which he did not. If that was inaccurate how do you know what else in the article is fact?
It is suspicious that there were apparently was 4 witnesses (not Stu White), but no reports from the school have been shown which eludes that this was not reported. If John Lauber’s hair was cut surely this would of been very noticeable and even if not reported one of the teacher’s would of seen it and asked what happened and it would of been reported.
The assistant headmaster can not recall any transgressions involving Mitt Romney:
Ben Snyder, who as an assistant headmaster later spearheaded the school’s effort to recruit inner-city students, said Cranbrook in Romney’s time “had its standards and applied them briskly when needed.” As chairman of a group of faculty members and students who were in charge of discipline, he described a strict school in which offenders could be “dismissed, period.” Snyder could not recall dealing with any transgressions involving Romney. “I wouldn’t expect to see him,” Snyder said of the disciplinary tribunals. “The family was so straight, they don’t do those types of things.”
breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/10/Washington-Post-Disgraces-Self-With-Romney-High-School-Story
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qui_est_ce
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And St. Augustin.
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Birdpreacher
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4 out of 5 of the Post’s Sources still hold that the event happened.
the abc report goes on to mention another unamed source which paints Romney as a bully:
the abc report goes on to mention another unamed source which paints Romney as a bully:
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-friend-stu-white-says-campaign-wants-him-to-counter-prank-accusations/
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Havard
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And that slaver-turned-priest Robert DeNiro played in The Mission!And St. Augustin.
Assuming it was based on a true story.
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Havard
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Oh no! An unnamed source!!?! That just seals it then!
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Et_Cetera
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Is this seriously supposed to be a religious forum with views like this?
As for the issue at hand, it’s very disappointing that these are the past actions of people running for our highest office. Romney wasn’t getting my vote anyway, but if I had been planning on voting for him, this would make me stop and think. My friends and I never did anything like this in high school.
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Oh no! An unnamed source!!?! That just seals it then!
In other news, John Travolta is being sued for sexual assaults against unnamed plaintiffs. They say there are 5 more who may speak up and join the suit.
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gilliam
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Some political commentary on all this:
Jim Geraghty notes publicly what everyone is thinking privately:
It’s entirely possible that it’s a coincidence that the Washington Post has a long story on a teenage Mitt Romney bullying and cutting the hair of a classmate who was believed to be gay, the day after Barack Obama announces his support for gay marriage.
But it is a fascinatingly convenient coincidence for the Obama campaign.
…and likely not coincidental at all, given that one named source previously volunteered for Obama. Ed Morrissey notes, “It’s one reason not to vote for a teenager for President,” adding visual aids to remind everyone that voters are more likely to care about the economy of the past three years than a nasty school prank dating back to the Mad Men era.
Allahpundit, ever Eeyore-ish, has already been concerned about the transparent attempts of the establishment media on this front (although he switches to talking about the main branch of Team Obama in his post):
Remember, their big talking point against Romney, ludicrous as it is, is that he’s the most conservative nominee since Barry Goldwater. If they can bog him down in talking about hot-button social issues instead of unemployment, they can get him to play into that impression a bit. His rhetoric doesn’t have to be strident or out of the conservative mainstream for this tactic to work; all they’re trying to do is make him look like a guy who’s preoccupied with “values” issues while swing voters are worried about jobs. And of course Romney knows it. Hence his consternation here as he’s put through his paces first on gay marriage, then in-state tuition for illegals, and then ye olde medical marijuana question. Axelrod couldn’t have scripted that any better.
Although the media attempts its share of agenda setting, campaign coverage is ultimately driven by the candidates and Team Romney is going to do its best to stay on-message. The problem for Team Obama and the media is that Romney wants to talk about the subjects most voters want to hear most about (folks whose votes are determined by support for or opposition to same sex marriage are, er, already determined). Mitt may occasionally has to point out that the press is focused on trivia, but the lesson of the Gingrich campaign is that this will help draw in conservatives — and the public has a low opinion of the media generally. It as though the left has forgotten how much mileage Bill Clinton and Barack Obama got out of rising above “distractions” to address the real concerns of real Americans.
Moreover, this morning’s distraction will be quickly cast aside in favor of tonight’s distraction. As ABC News’ Jake Tapper notes: “ZOMGS TEH CLOONEY.”
patterico.com/2012/05/10/mitt-meets-the-media/
Jim Geraghty notes publicly what everyone is thinking privately:
It’s entirely possible that it’s a coincidence that the Washington Post has a long story on a teenage Mitt Romney bullying and cutting the hair of a classmate who was believed to be gay, the day after Barack Obama announces his support for gay marriage.
But it is a fascinatingly convenient coincidence for the Obama campaign.
…and likely not coincidental at all, given that one named source previously volunteered for Obama. Ed Morrissey notes, “It’s one reason not to vote for a teenager for President,” adding visual aids to remind everyone that voters are more likely to care about the economy of the past three years than a nasty school prank dating back to the Mad Men era.
Allahpundit, ever Eeyore-ish, has already been concerned about the transparent attempts of the establishment media on this front (although he switches to talking about the main branch of Team Obama in his post):
Remember, their big talking point against Romney, ludicrous as it is, is that he’s the most conservative nominee since Barry Goldwater. If they can bog him down in talking about hot-button social issues instead of unemployment, they can get him to play into that impression a bit. His rhetoric doesn’t have to be strident or out of the conservative mainstream for this tactic to work; all they’re trying to do is make him look like a guy who’s preoccupied with “values” issues while swing voters are worried about jobs. And of course Romney knows it. Hence his consternation here as he’s put through his paces first on gay marriage, then in-state tuition for illegals, and then ye olde medical marijuana question. Axelrod couldn’t have scripted that any better.
Although the media attempts its share of agenda setting, campaign coverage is ultimately driven by the candidates and Team Romney is going to do its best to stay on-message. The problem for Team Obama and the media is that Romney wants to talk about the subjects most voters want to hear most about (folks whose votes are determined by support for or opposition to same sex marriage are, er, already determined). Mitt may occasionally has to point out that the press is focused on trivia, but the lesson of the Gingrich campaign is that this will help draw in conservatives — and the public has a low opinion of the media generally. It as though the left has forgotten how much mileage Bill Clinton and Barack Obama got out of rising above “distractions” to address the real concerns of real Americans.
Moreover, this morning’s distraction will be quickly cast aside in favor of tonight’s distraction. As ABC News’ Jake Tapper notes: “ZOMGS TEH CLOONEY.”
patterico.com/2012/05/10/mitt-meets-the-media/
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4 people besides Mitt Romney and none of them reported it! If it happened, why? Why didn’t any of the teachers notice John Lauber’s hair having been cut and punished Mitt Romney or any others that were involved?
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Ridgerunner
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Nonsense.
There isn’t a person alive, outside of some child saint, who didn’t do some bad things in their younger years. And are we to judge their character today by some of them? Are the leftists on here ready to unburden themselves of their past acts so we can judge their fitness to comment on Romney’s character in the light of their sins? I doubt we’ll hear that.
Back in 1965 hair length was a “statement”. If you wore long hair, you were telling the world that you were a lefty of some kind, or a drug user or (usually) both, and didn’t care who knew it. It was an “in your face” kind of thing. It drew comment and sometimes action. All kinds of things happened during that era. Remember how returning soldiers were taunted, had things thrown at them and couldn’t appear in uniform without being taunted by the long hairs? Confrontations in schools were not at all unusual during that time.
I remember being in high school in that general era, and there was a fight absolutely every day. There was also teasing of one kind or another every day. Later, of course, as the drug culture began to dull almost everybody down, the physical confrontations stopped.
Long hair was not a statement of homosexuality, but of political and social views, almost always revolutionary and left wing, and/or of the drug culture.
It’s reasonable to assume that Romney has matured some from age 17 or 18. One reasonably expects that his method of combatting the radical leftism and drug use that are destroying this country has likewise matured, but that his opposition to them has not gone away.
I hope he does not go down the endless rabbit hole of apologizing to the left. The left doesn’t care at all about the kid with the hair. It cares only about elevating Obama by tearing his opponent down. There is no amount of apologizing that will ever satisfy the left. Not in this or anything else. They hate non-leftistsconservatives for what they are, not for what they do.
And before this is over, there won’t be a real or imagined insult they won’t hurl at Romney, his wife, his kids, his friends, his business associates, his grandkids or his parents. If their private investigators can’t find any better stories than this one, they’ll make them up.
The left is low-road all the way, and this is probably only the tip of the iceberg they’re going to float.
But still, it is not Mitt Romney who has remained obdurate when a Cardinal of the Church says he will go to jail before he’ll obey the Obama HHS mandate. Who is the despot here? Romney, who cut a guy’s hair for some reason we don’t know when he was 17 or 18 or Obama, who, right now, appears perfectly willing to loot the Lutheran Church and send a Cardinal to jail? And let us not forget the Catholic employers who will be facing sanctions for the same reason.
So, who is the more likely despot of 2013-2016?
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Havard
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There are Catholics of every type here, just don’t assume any one is representative of anything other than himself/herself and you’ll be fine.
Assuming the allegations, which are both denied, and based on little to no evidence, are true.
Also, if you think getting a conservative haircut is bad, I had a big “69” shaved in the back of my head in high school as part of hazing. Then again, I took it in stride as part of the silliness that it was, not as “bullying”.
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scipio337
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Swish!
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Et_Cetera
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This thread is a perfect example of the board being Republican first and Christian second. A man is being defended for physically harassing someone for looking different (and in my belief for being perceived as gay). As a senior in high school, Mitt definitely should have known better. Classic bullying behavior. Sickening. And what’s even worse is to see people defend him at all costs.
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