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Irishmom2
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So do you agree that men should cover up as much of their bodies as these suits cover for women?
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MagdalenaRita
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Agree with @(name removed by moderator) A shirtless man is not the same as a shirtless woman but definitely a man’s shorts or swim trunks can be immodest.
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Irishmom2
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A shirtless man for you may not be a problem, but it is for other women. Shouldn’t men have to also take responsibility to dress in such a way as not to cause temptation to women?
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Lea101
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TBH, if we’re talking about lust here. The top half is often what leads women to sin. Plenty of women lust over shirtless men who are muscular and attractive.
It’s not rare, too. More women would lust over a topless Chris Hemsworth (actor for Thor) than men over an obese plain old Jane in a bikini. Yet Jane is still expected to cover more than Chris.
It’s not rare, too. More women would lust over a topless Chris Hemsworth (actor for Thor) than men over an obese plain old Jane in a bikini. Yet Jane is still expected to cover more than Chris.
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rosejmj
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But why can’t women show midriff if guys can? What makes a women’s belly more immodest than a man’s?
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Lea101
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Some may answer you with flowery responses such as ‘because the womb is sacred’.
Honestly though, it’s because women were always covered up and there were hardly any instances where women revealed midriffs for functional purposes (compared to men who would work topless). When something is covered up constantly and is then revealed, it would cause some sort of arousal.
Think back to the times when showing ankles were scandalous. Or Muslim women showing their arms or hair.
I know there are men who grew up seeing that much skin and would not be affected by it all that much (eg men who grew up on beaches). But most don’t. And when they do, it’s always in a sexual light (pornography, sensual ads). Because of this, they will view certain body parts through a sexual lens.
Same goes with other innocent body parts such as backs, shoulders and legs
Honestly though, it’s because women were always covered up and there were hardly any instances where women revealed midriffs for functional purposes (compared to men who would work topless). When something is covered up constantly and is then revealed, it would cause some sort of arousal.
Think back to the times when showing ankles were scandalous. Or Muslim women showing their arms or hair.
I know there are men who grew up seeing that much skin and would not be affected by it all that much (eg men who grew up on beaches). But most don’t. And when they do, it’s always in a sexual light (pornography, sensual ads). Because of this, they will view certain body parts through a sexual lens.
Same goes with other innocent body parts such as backs, shoulders and legs
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JSRG
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What’s interesting is that the “fastskin” suits (which are more covering than a regular one piece–essentially, they cover as much as if you wear a pair of shorts over the bottom of your suit) are actually more effective than a “regular” one piece, which is why the Olympics swimmers seem to be wearing them now. I don’t know if they’re more or less comfortable, though.
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Lea101
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They should be more comfortable and functional because the material may not ride up anywhere. That being said, most people who aren’t professional swimmers and who would like to laze around in beaches and pools would opt for something else
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rosejmj
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They are more effective for competitive swimming but they are very expensive and tight. Usually they can only be worn a few times too and they are hard to put in and take off.
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Rozellelily
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Can you just wear a kaftan or a sarong when not swimming in the water?
That’s what I personally do,and in the water will just wear whatever style as long as it fully covers boobs and bum.
That’s what I personally do,and in the water will just wear whatever style as long as it fully covers boobs and bum.
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Lea101
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Yeah, there are a lot of pretty cover ups that average women use on the beach. Even if it’s sheer, it’s still an added layer. They sell them on asos, h&m etc.
The impractical part would be that if you go in and swim, come out and then go in again, you may not want to keep putting it back on so that it wouldn’t get wet and clingy. But either way, you have a pretty layer of clothing to throw on whenever you feel uncomfortable/want to get ice cream or whatever.
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CilladeRoma
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You have got to be kidding?!
Just another example men trying to control & objectify women.
So sad that in the US we have such a scewed view of sexuality.
Just another example men trying to control & objectify women.
So sad that in the US we have such a scewed view of sexuality.
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ShrodingersCat
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Sometimes it seems that men who are hyper obsessed with modesty objectify women more than your average Joe who is perfectly capable of going to a beach for the sake of surf and Sun only.
I always make an effort to dress modestly. But things my dad said were immodest, my husband thinks don’t matter at all. Things my dad said were modest, people on CAF would probably consider immodest (for example, my dad was fine with shorts of any length in the summer as long as they weren’t literally hotpants). Modesty is largely subjective and hugely cultural. Women and men should just do their best to dress relatively modestly.
In terms of male swimsuits: I find “Speedos” a turn off, but a topless, fit man? Yeah that’s gonna be pretty darn attractive to me.
I always make an effort to dress modestly. But things my dad said were immodest, my husband thinks don’t matter at all. Things my dad said were modest, people on CAF would probably consider immodest (for example, my dad was fine with shorts of any length in the summer as long as they weren’t literally hotpants). Modesty is largely subjective and hugely cultural. Women and men should just do their best to dress relatively modestly.
In terms of male swimsuits: I find “Speedos” a turn off, but a topless, fit man? Yeah that’s gonna be pretty darn attractive to me.
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DeniseNY
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I agree. Beaches and pools in the US will be packed today and for the most part you will not see packs of men running around like this.
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on_the_hill
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You and every women I’ve met. My wife, daughters, their friends don’t want to see guys in Speedos. Ever. They tolerate it at swim meets (my kids are summer league swimmers) but that’s it.
The team gives the boys the choice between the Speedos style and the long “biking” trunks. Jammers? My son chooses the long ones.
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Lea101
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I find this to be the case in my life as well. When you believe lust is a sin and you’re obsessing about it, you may walk around looking at women/men as if they are temptations from hell VS seeing them as average people. With that lens, it’s easy to see why almost anything can be immodest.
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Sarcelle
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I wear those long board shorts and long sleeved board shirts.
It’s surfer wear and I’ve seen both men and women wear them.
The reason behind wearing them is practical. If you get knocked off your surfboard by a wave and get dragged across the coral by that same wave you got some protection.
It’s surfer wear and I’ve seen both men and women wear them.
The reason behind wearing them is practical. If you get knocked off your surfboard by a wave and get dragged across the coral by that same wave you got some protection.
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mrsdizzyd
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Modesty threads on CAF just make me sad.
Ladies wear something comfortable and safe to swim in.
Men practice custody of the eyes. If you just can’t manage to stop objectifying women in swimwear consider foregoing the beach or the pool (much like an alcoholic might forego that after work gathering at the bar).
Ladies wear something comfortable and safe to swim in.
Men practice custody of the eyes. If you just can’t manage to stop objectifying women in swimwear consider foregoing the beach or the pool (much like an alcoholic might forego that after work gathering at the bar).
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on_the_hill
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And the 100th post from @mrsdizzyd finally gets us to where we should’ve been all along.
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PadrePio123
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Let parents keep their daughters away from public gymnastic games and contests; but, if their daughters are compelled to attend such exhibitions, let them see to it that they are fully and modestly dressed. Let them never permit their daughters to don immodest garb.’
by The Sacred Congregation of the Council (by the mandate of Pope Pius XI), January 12, 1930 A.D.
I guess swimsuits in 2019 are worse compared to the gymnastics clothing and yet Catholics are busy defending immodesty.
A special danger to morals is represented by public bathing at beaches, in pool and river banks. . . Mixed bathing between men and women, which nearly always is a proximate occasion of sin and a scandal, must be avoided.’ - any one paying attention to this?
Padre Pio who died in 1968 even refused hearing confession of those women who wore immodest dress. Aren’t all good christians called to follow saints example and become another?
by The Sacred Congregation of the Council (by the mandate of Pope Pius XI), January 12, 1930 A.D.
I guess swimsuits in 2019 are worse compared to the gymnastics clothing and yet Catholics are busy defending immodesty.
A special danger to morals is represented by public bathing at beaches, in pool and river banks. . . Mixed bathing between men and women, which nearly always is a proximate occasion of sin and a scandal, must be avoided.’ - any one paying attention to this?
Padre Pio who died in 1968 even refused hearing confession of those women who wore immodest dress. Aren’t all good christians called to follow saints example and become another?
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