Morality of marijuana

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our new prime minister wants to legalize it

now, all morality aside, I think this is an extremely bad idea. do we really need more available substances to decreases peoples’ brain activity floating around?

but is recreational pot use actually immoral? because the argument goes, that it would be similar to alcohol or tobacco, which the church does not teach against if used moderately.

the proponents say that smoking a joint, for example, would be similar to having a cigaretteor a glass of wine after work.

so, in light of church teaching, is there anything to counter this?

also, on a slightly related topic, should their be stricter alcohol laws? because the culture surrounding drinking is also pretty out of control.

I personally don’t drink, mainly because I find alcohol disgusting (yes, I have to apologize to Jesus when I take the precious blood) but also I guess because I’m afraid of crossing a line, I know getting drunk is a sin but how do you know how much is too much if you’ve never done it before?
 
I find that both doctors and priests will just let it slide when you mention mj use with no comment at all, even dismissive at times. I understand it’s not a blessing but it’s also not a condemnation. I believe that in certain cases we have to rely on our own conscience and this is one of them.
 
As far as morality, no different than alcohol or any other recreational drug.
Civil laws must be obeyed. If you use it where illegal, that is immoral. A case could be made that marijuana use is itself not intrinsically evil, but breaking the law is a problem.

And substances must be used with temperance and prudence. Overindulgence is not good, using while driving…not good.
 
I believe marijuana is a mortal sin to use recreationally. It is completely different from alcohol so the two can’t be compared as morally equivalent.
 
I’m one of those people who disagree it is a mortal sin to use. I don’t use it myself but it is natural unlike cigarettes and alcohol. Where I am at it is legal and as long as its not being abused or used all the time I don’t see why it’d be an issue. Idk. Better than alcohol in my opinion. I also don’t drink.
 
From the catechism:

2290 The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.

2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.
 
Confiteor_Deo said:
I believe marijuana is a mortal sin to use recreationally. It is completely different from alcohol so the two can’t be compared as morally equivalent.
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A mortal sin? Wow. That seems strong. So, should cigarette smoking be a mortal sin? I think it damages the body far worse.
I also think there are far worse chemicals than marijuana. The earlier posts regarding moderation in using ANY substance make sense to me, as long as it is not illegal.
Marijuana is legal in my state, although I have never felt the need to try it.

Here’s a quote from my husband I found interesting:
Put 100 drunk guys in a room and there will most likely be a fight. Put 100 guys smoking pot in a room and most likely they will order pizza and Cheetos.
 
1ke said:
I don’t understand this statement.
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as in, I don’t like the taste, even if it’s for communion wine

and yes, I’ve read that paragraph from the catechism

there’s just an argument that alcohol and marijuana or tobacco is basically the same and I dont’ really know how to counter it.
 
Dorothy said:
This is an interesting article about the subject:

ncregister.com/daily-news/young-people-are-smoking-more-pot-than-ever-and-why-thats-a-bad-thing/
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I’ve read that a few days ago, actually

but it doesn’t address the comparison with alcohol or tobacco though.

for example, most catholics don’t have a problem with a casual glass of wine with dinner or something like that.

I don’t think marijuana should be legal, don’t we have enough problems without it?

but I can’t really come up with an argument of why alchol is ok and marijuana isn’t. maybe there isn’t one.
 
ellam25 said:
I’m one of those people who disagree it is a mortal sin to use. I don’t use it myself but it is natural unlike cigarettes and alcohol. Where I am at it is legal and as long as its not being abused or used all the time I don’t see why it’d be an issue. Idk. Better than alcohol in my opinion. I also don’t drink.
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How is it more natural than alcohol?
Or cocaine.
So on a earthy level meth = bad because it is manufactured. But cocaine is good because it grows on the ground? So does anthrax…
 
Legalizing pot in the US has always come with restrictions. You can’t use in public. You can’t let any odors bother anyone else. You have to keep it out of sight, etc. In the states that have legalized it, I haven’t heard of any major negative social impact. It cuts the drug dealers out and is a great windfall for the state.

It couldn’t be any worse than the toll alcohol and cigarettes have taken on human lives. No one has ever died of marijuana overdose. You just don’t want to drive under the influence. If Canada legalizes it, I doubt you’ll ever notice anything different in your day-to-day life.
 
Drinking can be a sin if one gets drunk. The sin can be mortal if one intended to get drunk.
So wouldn’t that translate to getting high? So who would smoke pot to NOT get high? And how do you dose it?
 
boomerang said:
Legalizing pot in the US has always come with restrictions. You can’t use in public. You can’t let any odors bother anyone else. You have to keep it out of sight, etc. In the states that have legalized it, I haven’t heard of any major negative social impact. It cuts the drug dealers out and is a great windfall for the state.

It couldn’t be any worse than the toll alcohol and cigarettes have taken on human lives. No one has ever died of marijuana overdose. You just don’t want to drive under the influence. If Canada legalizes it, I doubt you’ll ever notice anything different in your day-to-day life.
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It doesn’t cut the drug dealers out. I live next to a state where it is legal. It is cheaper to buy it illegally in my state than legally in another. Not by a little bit either. The quantity and potency is almost twofold for the same amount of money.
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
How is it more natural than alcohol?
Or cocaine.
So on a earthy level meth = bad because it is manufactured. But cocaine is good because it grows on the ground? So does anthrax…
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I was comparing it to things that are legal…alcohol and cigarettes which are worse for your health. Alcohol is man made, it doesn’t brew itself lol. Marijuana you can pluck directly from a plant and smoke it.
 
I think about this all the time. Only until recently I used to think they should relax the laws. Heres why I had a change of heart:

My job is between three high schools. Almost every time I see a group of kids now they’re trailed by a cloud of pot smoke. I know I know the kids are going to get it anyway, but still. It has to be a sin to allow a child to waste their mind.
 
ellam25 said:
I was comparing it to things that are legal…alcohol and cigarettes which are worse for your health. Alcohol is man made, it doesn’t brew itself lol. Marijuana you can pluck directly from a plant and smoke it.
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Marijuana does not smoke itself or roll itself or light itself on fire… Taking the natural road here is nonsensical. :rolleyes: it is or natural or healthy to put irritants in lungs via smoke. But to be fair alcohol is a poison…
 
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