More and more people want Catholic weddings in places other than church

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4 PM Mass, Mass lasts an hour - we are at 5 PM.

The wedding guests would arrive when the parking lot is still full of Mass attenders.

People who pray after Mass would have to be rushed out to allow for decorating and wedding guests to be seated…

Every wedding I’ve been too, there is a flury of picture taking going on in the Church for 2 hours prior to the wedding -
The seminary where we are having the 4 pm wedding mass runs a tight ship. We are allowed to be there 3:30 until 5:30pm. The next wedding (if one is scheduled) will be at 6 pm. And there is a 2 pm slot before us. So there is no dilly dallying around.
 
But I’m glad you were able to find another church nearby which offered the 4p.m. mass and able to have your parish priest. Congratulations to your family and your daughter. This time between the wedding day and now is going to fly. 🙂
Thank you! We are excited. My daughter is marrying a wonderful Catholic guy. And that’s the most important thing…the wedding is one day, the marriage is a lifetime.
 
New York. Almost every Church more than 30 years old, which is most of them. Although some have taken the altars out of the lower Church.

God Bless
Yep… I thought you were from the same area I’m from. I’m in the Philadelphia area and in NYC every week and I’d say almost every old church down here and up there have those kinds of “accommodations”. It’s actually very nice to have an upper and lower church.
 
4 PM Mass, Mass lasts an hour - we are at 5 PM.

The wedding guests would arrive when the parking lot is still full of Mass attenders.

People who pray after Mass would have to be rushed out to allow for decorating and wedding guests to be seated…-
This is true. You do need at least an hour between weddings or masses.
Every wedding I’ve been too, there is a flury of picture taking going on in the Church for 2 hours prior to the wedding -
For many of the church weddings I’ve sung at, including in our Cathedral (they do 85-100/year), photographs are not permitted before or after the wedding – inside or in front of the church. This is so that the weddings after the last one won’t start late and also so by the time the 3:00 wedding is done, guests will be out of the parking lot before the 5:00 mass. Although, when they do permit a wedding at the same time as the mass, it’s a fairly crowded parking lot. I don’t know if they ask the bridal couple to provide parking for their guests somewhere else like they do for the Friday evening weddings.

But back on topic…. What can be done to regarding Catholic couples wanting marriages outside of the church? To me, it just feels like they don’t truly understand and never had anyone really explain it to them.
 
But back on topic…. What can be done to regarding Catholic couples wanting marriages outside of the church? To me, it just feels like they don’t truly understand and never had anyone really explain it to them.
As parents, it is our duty to instruct our children in the Faith. This includes teaching them the facts of Catholic Marriage. Use those teachable moments - when a TV wedding takes place on a beach or where ever, point out what is wrong with this picture, what we are required to observe, etc.

The Church teaching on marriage, the Church laws for marriage, also need to be re-enforced in our CCD/RE/Confirmation Classes, etc.
 
As parents, it is our duty to instruct our children in the Faith. This includes teaching them the facts of Catholic Marriage. Use those teachable moments - when a TV wedding takes place on a beach or where ever, point out what is wrong with this picture, what we are required to observe, etc.

The Church teaching on marriage, the Church laws for marriage, also need to be re-enforced in our CCD/RE/Confirmation Classes, etc.
Yes, I totally agree with this. I remember as a very little girl, I would see these lovely garden weddings around my area. I just thought they were so “pretty”. (When I look back, this was during the 80s and those gowns and hairdos were the creampuff, over-the-top, sugary details that many little girls drool over. My 5 year-old-neice right now is like that – the gawdier the better. Ha! Ha!) One day, as we drove by a wedding taking place in a garden, I turned to my very devout grandmother and said, “When I grow up, I want to have a garden wedding.” I still remember this look of concern on her face and saying to me, “Oh, no, you can’t get married in a garden. Catholics must be married in a church to celebrate the sacrament of marriage.” And, like most 6-year-olds, I asked, “Why?” So she went into child detail as to the importance of a sacrament and why it had to be in a sacred place. It was a great teaching moment for her and for me.
 
I think the problem lays with the couple getting married. They, like more and more people these days, do not have God and the church at the “CORE” of themselves. My wife and I have God and the church at our core. Thus having our wedding the way we did, in the church, was the only option.

It revolves back to how the children were raised and what is important. Not wanting a wedding in the church and having it on some sandy beach tells me they don’t have the church in their core.

It is sad really, but the question is how do we change that. Start with your own children.

The church needs to get away from far left liberal thinking and needs to get more traditional and quit white washing everything.

I am sorry, but what I feel today is people goto church hear a few readings, a gospel, shake hands and hug, get communion and go home. (Please I am not saying everyone is like that.) There has to be a much deeper meaning than just going through the motions and when there is a much deeper meaning to our faith, Then everything else will fall into place. Baptisms, marriages, 1st communions, etc.

If our faith is in a persons core, then having a wedding outside the church would never cross their mind.

I hope I am making sense. :confused:
 
I think the problem lays with the couple getting married. They, like more and more people these days, do not have God and the church at the “CORE” of themselves. My wife and I have God and the church at our core. Thus having our wedding the way we did, in the church, was the only option.

It revolves back to how the children were raised and what is important. Not wanting a wedding in the church and having it on some sandy beach tells me they don’t have the church in their core.

It is sad really, but the question is how do we change that. Start with your own children.

The church needs to get away from far left liberal thinking and needs to get more traditional and quit white washing everything.

I am sorry, but what I feel today is people goto church hear a few readings, a gospel, shake hands and hug, get communion and go home. (Please I am not saying everyone is like that.) There has to be a much deeper meaning than just going through the motions and when there is a much deeper meaning to our faith, Then everything else will fall into place. Baptisms, marriages, 1st communions, etc.

If our faith is in a persons core, then having a wedding outside the church would never cross their mind.

I hope I am making sense. :confused:
You make perfect sense. I agree with you.
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I was just married and my wife and I did everything proper. We did not live together before marriage and definitly no pre marital relations.

We to were watching a lot of “hyped” weddings on TV and could not believe the amount of people in this world wrapped up in the “wedding” rather than the “marriage”

One that is making a joke of things is “Bridezilla’s” on WE channel.

My wife and I had a full NO Latin mass, with Gregorian chant, the choir, and a trumpet player. It was awsome.

It was so spiritual and correct.

If you would like to see a few clips, check them out here.

jamieandsonya.com/video/
Your wedding ceremony is so beautiful:thumbsup:

I am so sad because I didn’t understand anything about my faith:( Dh didn’t really either even if slightly better informed than I, we were married in a nonCatholic ceremony because we were lapsed & while it was “nice” it lacked so much because it was not the Sacrament of Matrimony in the Church. We have since gone through the convalidation process which was beautiful but not the same as if we had done it “right” the first time. It’s by knowing those who did understand the Sacraments & the Church that we came home. SO seeing such beautiful Catholic weddings makes me both sad but very happy! I pray for all those who have yet to understand the beauty of faith:gopray2:

I know I will not make the mistake of leaving my children to figure out the Sacraments or the Catholic faith on their own, they need parents to really teach them what it means. Even though we have good parents they just assumed we would learn the faith from others, they were more private about the faith.
 
Question for anyone who may know. My sister is getting married in a year, and wants to ask the priest if he will marry them outside in a location where he occasionally holds an outdoor mass. I have been to outdoor masses many times, so if the sacrament of the Eucharist can be outside, why can’t the sacrament of matrimony? I’m not being smart about this, I just really don’t know.

As for me, I had the most beautiful wedding ceremony I could ever imagine. I had to have the wedding mass at 1 PM, because of 4 PM confession, and 5 PM vigil mass (and the priest catered the reception, too!). We had our reception at the church hall, so it started immediately after the wedding, as we had a lot of out-of-town guests. It wasn’t exactly the way I wanted it, but the ceremony was the most important thing to me, so I didn’t really care in the long run.
 
It’s sad how so many people fall for the “perfect tv” wedding. What we can do is begin to tell our children how important and beautiful a church wedding is.

My dream wedding, for about a year before I met my husband was, of course at a beach, but when I met him (and most of my life), the perfect wedding, my dream wedding was a Catholic wedding inside a beautiful traditional church, but sadly, I got an outdoors wedding since DH is a JW. I’m sad to say, but it’s my fault. I should’ve pushed to get the chruch wedding I imagined since I was a little girl. Not a big wedding with 300+ guests, but walking down the isle holding my dad’s arm with my fiance waiting close to the altar. That’s gotta be the perfect wedding.

If you tell your kids how beautiful a church wedding is, I’m pretty sure they’ll want it too. I wanted it ever since I was little, but then I saw a wedding in Cancun at a local beach park, and I thought it was amazing. But when I was to get married, I really, really wanted the Catholic Church wedding. My mom taught me that, and that’s what I wanted.
 
Mass can be held anywhere (well almost) so I don’t see why getting married outside a church is a problem. If I were to do it al again, I would probably have my wedding elsewhere but still with a priest and Mass. Perhaps in the botanical gardens or on holiday? I’m not going to do it all again though! Also, my family felt very awkward at my wedding in a Roman Catholic church because they didn’t know what to do. They did not know that they shouldn’t take communion and when I advised them they couldn’t they didn’t understand the reasons. I wanted everyone to be comfortable and enjoy my wedding but it was a flop. Even for us. Didn’t help that Gran in law had her funeral in the same church the day before though and that other gran in law had a heart attack on the evening of the wedding.😦
 
Your wedding ceremony is so beautiful:thumbsup:

I am so sad because I didn’t understand anything about my faith:( Dh didn’t really either even if slightly better informed than I, we were married in a nonCatholic ceremony because we were lapsed & while it was “nice” it lacked so much because it was not the Sacrament of Matrimony in the Church. We have since gone through the convalidation process which was beautiful but not the same as if we had done it “right” the first time. It’s by knowing those who did understand the Sacraments & the Church that we came home. SO seeing such beautiful Catholic weddings makes me both sad but very happy! I pray for all those who have yet to understand the beauty of faith:gopray2:

I know I will not make the mistake of leaving my children to figure out the Sacraments or the Catholic faith on their own, they need parents to really teach them what it means. Even though we have good parents they just assumed we would learn the faith from others, they were more private about the faith.
Thanks for the compliments. 🙂

As for your wedding and the what you are saying about your children you have put a big smile on my face.

I believe when it comes to teaching children the following:
  1. CCD can’t teach them everything, it can’t teach them the “core” I spoke of, the deep meaning. Don’t rely on CCD alone.
  2. Don’t tell children to do certain things “because that is what you have to do” Explain why we do things, why it is so wonderful that we do these things for the Lord. Like kneeling. “Ok kids kneel, its time to” At home we talk to our kids why we kneel, that at that moment, the bread and wine is becoming the true body and blood of Christ. How wonderful it that.
Our children are getting it and they are only 7 & 6.
 
I wish I could say many change their minds about having that “destination” wedding after we provide catechesis, but unfortunately in most cases, they have already made the plans to have that destination wedding and nothing we say or teach them about the nature of the sacrament of marriage changes their minds.In fact, they will seek out those “rent-a-priests” who totally get them confused. Sadly,in some cases the bride usually will even get defiant because the church won’t conform to their pre-conditions. However, we (the church) always hold the door open to them, especially when they come to the church to ask for baptism for their children. It’s very difficult for us as ministers, but at some point we have to trust that the seeds we are planting will some day land on fertile soil. We lay it in God’s hands and frequently will ask Blessed Mother to help intercede as well.

Just out of curiosity, stbruno, how many change their minds once you have given them the catechesis they lack?

Brenda V.

Another poster asked if as a deacon, I get called more frequently to do weddings. Yes, I have been doing more weddings in our church because we only have one priest assigned at our parish, the pastor and he is overwhelmed with work. The engaged couple also gets to know me better and I them because we spend many hours & appts. together helping them prepare for their marriage prep. It’s hard to stay a stranger long when we do the FOCCUS inventory with them as part of the prep. It’s a blessing for my wife and I who do them together. However, we make it very clear that we do not do any marriages outside of the church. PERIOD!
 
Mass can be held anywhere (well almost) so I don’t see why getting married outside a church is a problem. .
Because Canon Law says it is a problem. Catholics must follow the Catholic form of marriage, and currently that form requires the wedding to take place in a Catholic Church. One can apply for a dispensation from this form, but the Bishop can deny it.
If I were to do it al again, I would probably have my wedding elsewhere but still with a priest and Mass. Perhaps in the botanical gardens or on holiday?.
Not without a dispensation from your Bishop.
Also, my family felt very awkward at my wedding in a Roman Catholic church because they didn’t know what to do. They did not know that they shouldn’t take communion and when I advised them they couldn’t they didn’t understand the reasons.
And, not one thing would change if you had your wedding elsewhere. The mass is the mass. I do not see this as a relevant reason to petition for your wedding to take place elsewhere.
 
Because Canon Law says it is a problem. Catholics must follow the Catholic form of marriage, and currently that form requires the wedding to take place in a Catholic Church. One can apply for a dispensation from this form, but the Bishop can deny it.

Not without a dispensation from your Bishop.

And, not one thing would change if you had your wedding elsewhere. The mass is the mass. I do not see this as a relevant reason to petition for your wedding to take place elsewhere.
I didn’t mean without a Catholic Mass 1Ke. Mass can be held elsewhere.
 
I didn’t mean without a Catholic Mass 1Ke.
I didn’t think you did.
Mass can be held elsewhere.
No, it cannot. That is the entire point of this thread.

Canon Law stipulates that the wedding must take place in a Catholic Church or Oratory.

You can only get married elsewhere if the Bishop gives a dispensation. I have never encountered one single Catholic who received a dispensation to do what you propose.
 
  1. CCD can’t teach them everything, it can’t teach them the “core” I spoke of, the deep meaning. Don’t rely on CCD alone.
  2. Don’t tell children to do certain things “because that is what you have to do” Explain why we do things, why it is so wonderful that we do these things for the Lord. Like kneeling. “Ok kids kneel, its time to” At home we talk to our kids why we kneel, that at that moment, the bread and wine is becoming the true body and blood of Christ. How wonderful it that.
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No way can it be taught in CCD alone, however, the CCD instructors HAVE to touch each subject as some parents are lax in their duty to instruct children in the Faith.

While you explain why, it is also important to let kids know that there are things we HAVE to do. There are rules, and the kids need to know that there are non-negotiable rules. While we all strive to attain perfect contrition, imperfect contrition still serves a purpose 🙂
 
That’s why as a youth minister I am teaching it to our teens because obviously they are not getting it in their catechism classes where it sticks. Maybe they were taught in grade school when marriage was not an issue to them. But they are fast approaching that age when marriage is a possibility.

I am also putting the message in bulletin articles and using it on occasion as part of my homilies. But unfortunately, our engaged couples still want what they want…
 
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