More Democrat Hypocrisy and Treason

[Richardols]

I like Hannity, but I just don’t get the whole Nascar thing. Watching cars go around and around a circle :whacky: It’s like watching pro-deathers argue their case! Don’t love war either. Sorry to disappoint. Why oh why can’t I just fit in??

Not into Nascar? Don’t love war? Not to worry. You do fit it, but not as a Bushie.

 

[TomK]

Not into Nascar? Don’t love war? Not to worry. You do fit it, but not as a Bushie

Not so, I have a little, blue Bush-Cheney 2004 card with an American flag on it to prove it.

I think the Democrats are just upset that some people can receive a university education and still turn out Republican after all of their hard work stacking the faculty.

 

[Richardols]

TomK:

Not so, I have a little, blue Bush-Cheney 2004 card with an American flag on it to prove it.

Yes, if you say so, but I was responding to legeorge.

I think the Democrats are just upset that some people can receive a university education and still turn out Republican after all of their hard work stacking the faculty.

As a Democrat, I agree. I just don’t understand how some of you manage to go over to the dark side after being presented with the good. But, I suppose it can happen even in the best families.

 

[Petertherock]

Well, my mom and dad were both life long Democrats. They are now Republicans. The Democrats don’t stand for the same values they onces stood for. You would never hear a Democrat today say “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” A military career was once seen as honorable by Democrats, today Howard Dean, and Sen Turbin Durbin compares our military to Pol Pot, Hitler, and Gulags. Todays Democrats are breeding a new “swiftboat vets” generation. Todays Democrats are out of touch with the main stream of society.

 

[Richardols]

Petertherock:

Todays Democrats are out of touch with the main stream of society.

If that were so, we Dems wouldn’t have lost the last election by only 3%. We would have been crushed. Mr. Bush did a much better job of campaigning than did Kerry. That’s undeniable. But, don’t be in too much of a rush to write us off.

 

[yochumjy]

Richardols:

If that were so, we Dems wouldn’t have lost the last election by only 3%. We would have been crushed. Mr. Bush did a much better job of campaigning than did Kerry. That’s undeniable. But, don’t be in too much of a rush to write us off.

If we wait long enough, the pro-abortion Dems will simply abort themselves out of office… Those are the only Dems I don’t want around. Unfortunately, there are seemingly a lot of them…

 

[mlchance]

Richardols:

If that were so, we Dems wouldn’t have lost the last election by only 3%. We would have been crushed. Mr. Bush did a much better job of campaigning than did Kerry. That’s undeniable. But, don’t be in too much of a rush to write us off.

The DNC wrote itself off with these words:
Democratic Party Platform of 2004:

Because we believe in the privacy and equality of women, we stand proudly for a woman’s right to choose, consistent with Roe v. Wade, and regardless of her ability to pay.

President Bush has rejected the calls from Nancy Reagan, Christopher Reeve and Americans across the land for assistance with embryonic stem cell research. We will reverse his wrongheaded policy.

The Democratic Party: the party of tax-payer funded abortion-on-demand and state-supported embryo destruction. Now there’s something to be proud of!

– Mark L. Chance.

 

[atheos_sum]

how many posts do you need to become a senior member?

 

[Petertherock]

Richardols:

If that were so, we Dems wouldn’t have lost the last election by only 3%. We would have been crushed. Mr. Bush did a much better job of campaigning than did Kerry. That’s undeniable. But, don’t be in too much of a rush to write us off.

The last election was a landslide. Look at the election maps.

 

[MikeWM]

Petertherock:

The last election was a landslide. Look at the election maps.

If you look at land area alone, it looks like the Conservatives are still in charge of the UK

Mike

 

[Jay74]

Richardols:

Don’t love war?

C’mon, Richard, be fair. Hating evil enough to fight it isn’t the same as loving war.

You’re a good guy. I’m sure someone saying “Don’t love freedom? Prefer brutal tyrranny?” wouldn’t be a fair indictment of your position.

I agree with an earlier remark you made though–not all liberals have no credibility. You’re proof some of them do.
:tiphat:

 

[Jay74]

atheos_sum:

how many posts do you need to become a senior member?

300

 

[David_Paul]

Bush won more of the popular vote than Bill Clinton (who only got 43% in 1992), Jimmy Carter, John F. Kennedy, Harry Truman and Woodrow Wilson. Of that group, only Carter received a majority of the vote and he squeaked in with 50.1%.

Yet Democrats call 2004 a close election and the country “evenly” divided.

That is exactly the type deceptive propaganda which drives people away from the Democratic party.

They can’t tell the truth about anything. Everything must be twisted to be what it is not. Both Carter and Clinton had to pretend not to be what they were to get elected. Right now Hillary is busy creating a false front to convince those who don’t pay much attention that she is not the radical she has been since her Yale day.

Check out the Democratic party platform of 1932. All lies. In his first 100 days, FDR did exactly (as he had planned all along) the opposite of what he campaigned on.

My parents were Democrats too. My mom switched because of Clinton. She was 83 at the time and her former party made her sick (and no, it wasn’t Monica, it was the Chinagate treason, the smearing of anyone who crossed the Clintons and the mindless repetition of slogans by Democratic operatives on TV).

 

[thestickman]

Richardols:

Not into Nascar? Don’t love war? Not to worry. You do fit it, but not as a Bushie.

Lines like that make me feel really good cuz’ IMO, Democrats making these sorts of comments haven’t learned anything from losing both houses of Congress or from losing the White House in 2000 or 2004.

 

[Jay74]

David_Paul:

She was 83 at the time and her former party made her sick (and no, it wasn’t Monica, it was the Chinagate treason, the smearing of anyone who crossed the Clintons and the mindless repetition of slogans by Democratic operatives on TV).

Sounds like my grandmother, who is also 83. She has voted straight democrat ever since WWII. She voted for Gore in 2000, and seemed to loathe Bush. She shocked us all last year by voting for Bush.

We asked her why.

She said that in 2000, she believed Bush would take away her social security, and he didn’t. She thought he was stupid, and he wasn’t.

She said that, most importantly, when 9/11 happened, she remembered how her generation rose up to fight nazism (my grandparents got married the day Pearl Harbor was attacked, in their early 20s), and she sees Bush rising up to fight terrorism now and gets so mad listening to those in party she supported for life fighting him every step of the way.

 

[sirduckjr]

David_Paul:

The only facts of wrong behavior we know of now is that both Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson lied. The bipartisan Senate Intelligence report said so.

It appears you have been getting the Republican talking points. But, unfortunately, that doesn’t mean its true. Do you like the grape flavored kool-aid?

1. The vice president asked the CIA to investigate the Niger/ yellow cake connection. Since Joe Wilson was the former ambassador to both Iraq and Niger, it seemed only natural for the CIA to ask him to check with his contacts in both countries to see if the story was legitimate. The big lie has been presented that Cheney asked Wilson to check into this. Where can you reference Wilson saying Cheney asked him to check into this directly?
2. The secret memo(send to AirForce1) which indicated Wilson’s wife was a secret agent also indicated the Niger/yellow cake connection had already been debunked, yet the President still mentions this as fact in the State of Union speech AFTER READING THIS MEMO!
3. Check you facts. I believe you will find Wilson’s story was discredited by the Republicans only on the Senate Intelligence Committee, not the bipartisan report.
4. The attacks on Joe Wilson are unfair. This is a man who has been a career diplomat serving his country well. Check his story out relating to how he stood up to Sadaam when he captured the american hostages prior to Gulf War in the 90’s. He became a target of the Republicans only on the lead up to the Iraqi war because he questioned some of the rational for the war. Therefore, he got the spin machine (Rove) focused on him and his wife.

I can agree we do not know all the facts relating to this story. But it is just wrong to blindly attack those who have questioned the Administration in relation to this war.(Sounds like a Clinton era tactic) It seems the administration wants it both ways. The intellegence community supposedly had it wrong about the WMD’s yet they worked furiously to discredit Wilson who said they (Iraq) were not actively trying to purchase the yellow cake.
Make sure you clean your face David Paul, the grape koolaid will leave stains.

 

[David_Paul]

sirduckjr:

1. The secret memo(send to AirForce1) which indicated Wilson’s wife was a secret agent also indicated the Niger/yellow cake connection had already been debunked, yet the President still mentions this as fact in the State of Union speech AFTER READING THIS MEMO!

Bush’s comments weren’t based on the fake Italian documents. They were based on British Intel. The British had made that information public before the fake documents came out. The Brits stand behind their Intel today. The Senate Intelligence Committee also found Saddam did in fact try to buy yellowcake from Africa.

Joe Wilson lied.

Also curious how Wilson knew so much about the false Italian documents when his role in the entire affair was OVER in March of 2002 and the fake documents were not made public until Oct of 2002. Also, how did Wilson know Bush was briefed on the false Intel before the State of the Union Speech? Wilson wasn’t working for the CIA then. How did Wilson, in the spring of 2003, know when the CIA knew the Italian documents were fake and what the CIA told the President?

As far as your personal attacks on me…well…typical of the left.

Care to talk about the history of the Democratic Party and the CIA? Noticed you ignored all my comments about Ron Dellums, Turner, Church, Torrecelli, Gorelick and Leahy exposing Top Secret Intel and nearly destroying the agency.

Want to talk about Clinton using the CIA to get ENRON a power plant in India and how taxpayers got stuck for the loans when that went bust? Bernie Schwartz giving million to the DNC so he could upgrade Communist China’s ICBM force? Or want to go back to Elizabeth Bentley and the 100+ Soviet agents she exposed in FDR’s adminstration? My parents lived down the street from her. Have some personal information on that episode of liberal treason.

 

[Lizzie]

David-Paul…

You are right. The treason of the FDR administration liberals caused the Cold War!

 

[Richardols]

Petertherock:

The last election was a landslide. Look at the election maps.

No, dear heart, look at the numbers, not the land mass. Bush won by the closest margin in electoral history. He won by about 3%.

That’s great for him, as it meant that he won the election, but it doesn’t equate to a landslide, as would have been the case if he won, say, by 30 or 35% or more.

I ascribe it to his campaign, which was better run than that of Kerry, and give credit to him where it is due. And he deserves credit for his election.

But, we won’t have Mr. Bush past '08, and the picture can change entirely then. (From my lips to God’s ears, anyway.)

 

[mlchance]

Richardols:

No, dear heart, look at the numbers, not the land mass. Bush won by the closest margin in electoral history.

“Electoral history”? Hardly. The final certified electoral count showed 286 votes for Bush, 251 for Kerry, and 1 for Edwards. In electoral terms, that’s about a 14% lead for President Bush.

President Bush won with the smallest margin of victory for a sitting president in U.S. history in terms of the percentage of the popular vote. President Bush received 2.5% more than Senator Kerry; the closest previous margin won by a sitting President was 3.2% for President Wilson 1916. In terms of absolute number of popular votes, his victory margin (approximately 3 million votes) was the smallest of any sitting President since President Truman in 1948.

Switching to another set of statistics: The counties where President Bush led in the popular vote amount to 83% of the geographic area of the U.S.

Now matter how the statistics are spun, one fact remains: The Democratic Party - the party of abortion-on-demand and human experimentation - lost not only the White House but also Congress.

– Mark L. Chance.