Mormon missionaries vandalize and desecrate Catholic Shrine

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In case you missed one or more of the earlier posts on this subject. The criminal investigation into this has been halted by the parish that was vandalized.

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Essentially, two of the three of these missionaries have gotten off scott free. Only one has made any sort of apology. The other two have yet to be heard from.

By the way, I don’t know if you meant to use the word *persecution *in your statement, or if your really meant prosecution. Someone being held accountable for their actions, is not persecution. Whether it is religously based or not.

Christ was persecuted, these young could have been prosecuted. Big difference.
I just find it interesting that some Christians feel that forgiveness is something one can turn on and off like a light switch. That is not forgiveness; that’s not dealing with the issue at hand. To “move on” without thought of personal responsibility on the part of the other who did the wrong is just thoughtless and reckless. Forgiveness does not mean letting it go without personal responsibility.
 
Perhaps there is a massive civil suit against the LDS Church in the works? Assume nothing, and allow for the possibility of many things.
 
Perhaps there is a massive civil suit against the LDS Church in the works? Assume nothing, and allow for the possibility of many things.
I agree to “assume nothing”, but I really pray there isn’t a civil lawsuit. To me, that wouldn’t be in the spirit of forgiveness.

I just don’t understand why the other two haven’t apologized. IMHO, I think if they came forward, and apologized, it would change the way alot of people view the situation, and aid in the forgiveness.
 
I was on a bus with two nuns.
This sounds like the opening line of a bad joke.
These sisters were not from the convent that I usually visit.
Convents aren’t generally places that just anyone goes to visit. What do you do at this convent? What necessitates going there repeatedly?
We just came from a Trindentine Mass.
Did you “do” any readings at this Tridentine mass?
 
To forgive and forget, without protecting oneself from being victimized again is foolishness, and against the instinct for self-preservation. Remember the Holocaust.

Believe me, I am speaking from experience.

A reformed fool.
 
Convents aren’t generally places that just anyone goes to visit. What do you do at this convent? What necessitates going there repeatedly?
Maybe back in the good ol days they were sort of off limits. But not today. I attend an adoration once a week and a bible study every so often when I am in town. Plus, I help them every once in awhile. Yes, they are places one can go to visit, depending on the convent.
 
No, I don’t think that there are reading at a tridentine mass. But the priest gave a good homily about the mass itself.
That’s sort of a decent answer, so you get partial credit, but you still manage to demonstrate that you are a bit lost. I do not believe a word you say. I think you’re Googling aspects of Catholic experience and tossing it up here hoping that some of it sticks, and that it will gain you some credibility. May the Lord have mercy on you.
 
By the way, I don’t know if you meant to use the word *persecution *in your statement, or if your really meant prosecution. Someone being held accountable for their actions, is not persecution. Whether it is religously based or not.

Christ was persecuted, these young could have been prosecuted. Big difference.
I made a mistake. 🙂
 
That’s sort of a decent answer, so you get partial credit, but you still manage to demonstrate that you are a bit lost. I do not believe a word you say. I think you’re Googling aspects of Catholic experience and tossing it up here hoping that some of it sticks, and that it will gain you some credibility. May the Lord have mercy on you.
If I was born catholic and spent the first eighteen years of my life attending Mass why would I need to google anything? You don’t have to believe me and I have no reason to lie.
 
:confused: Now we know!! :eek: Giggle. You are just as much a fraud as the BOM.
Sorry to disappoint but there were no reading by lectors. The priest did pray a great deal facing the altar and gave a nice homily about the mass to the few people present. For most, it was their first experience at such a mass. And in fact, the priest was from England and after the mass he gave a lecture about the English martyrs, John Fischer and Thomas Moore among others. 🙂
 
If I was born catholic and spent the first eighteen years of my life attending Mass why would I need to google anything? You don’t have to believe me and I have no reason to lie.
But you are lying.

There are readings of the Gospel and of the epistles at a Tridentine mass, by the way. That was a big screw-up on your part to say that there isn’t.
 
But you are lying.

There are readings of the Gospel and of the epistles at a Tridentine mass, by the way. That was a big screw-up on your part to say that there isn’t.
Since no one can read Latin except the priest, I think that it would have been quite difficult to give a reading. However the homily was in English. No screw up on my part at all. The Mass was in latin and very traditional.
 
Since no one can read Latin except the priest, I think that it would have been quite difficult to give a reading. However the homily was in English. No screw up on my part at all. The Mass was in latin and very traditional.
why me, the missals have the Latin and the English side-by-side. In addition, if you are the experienced Catholic and mass-attendee that you claim to be, you’d know the order of the mass and there would be no question about there being Gospel readings.

You’re not telling us the truth. Stop the charade. You are a Mormon, and you are a dyed-in-the-wool liar-for-the-Lord. You need to start praying that the Lord indeed likes people to lie for him.
 
Since no one can read Latin except the priest, I think that it would have been quite difficult to give a reading. However the homily was in English. No screw up on my part at all. The Mass was in latin and very traditional.
Sorry, the readings are always in the vernacular. Maybe you were at a Spanish mass and got confused. 😃
 
I’m just gonna sit here and giggle a bit. Someone’s been busted!!!
 
Maybe he went to a Spanish Mass and got confused.

It is highly unlikely that the readings were in Latin. :rolleyes:
 
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