So anybody who can prove descent from one male circa 3,000 ago is a descendant of Aaron?
Unless something has changed and I am not aware of it, and it may have, teh lineage DNA testing is done through mitachondrial DNA which is passed through the mother’s side. As a man, you can trace where the matriarch of your family is from but not the patriarch.
“Charity” is not the issue that I have with them. Honesty is.
zerinus
You know, Zerinus–HONESTY is the issue I have with you and other Mormons.
Isn’t that video by Mormon apologist/Mormon theologian Robert Millet proof enough that Mormons are purposely NOT honest with those outside the church?
I believe it is my duty to KEEP YOU honest here.
So Raphinal, you are REALLY going to need to do your own research on these topics and learn this stuff for yourself if you’re that interested. Read both sides.
Again, I understand your question. I know Zerinus understands your question–but once again, he is playing semantics and evading.
Therefore, I would have to agree with Zerinus on his answer once again–that there isn’t a difference between role of president and role of prophet within this church…he is both since “president” is moreso a title and “prophet” is what he is believed to be.
The difference I pointed out before was the distinction Mormons make when a president/prophet is acting as a prophet vs. simply being a MAN with an opinion.
Joseph Smith said:
Thank you. There are several problems with that: Firstly, for theological purposes (i.e. for determining the right of ordination to the priesthood by virtue of direct descent), the line of descent must come through the males, not the females. You become qualified to receiving the priesthood by determining who your father was, not who your mother was. Therefore that technique does not determine who the legitimate descendent of Aaron is that has right to the priesthood. Secondly, through that technique, how are you going to decide at what point in the past the progenitor lived that fathered the entire race? Let’s suppose that you found 10,000 people who have the same mitochondrial DNA. How do you know that they all descend from a progenitor that lived 3,000 years ago? How do you know that he wasn’t somebody that lived 500 years ago? And thirdly, if mitochondrial DNS passes unchanged from one generation to the next, how are you going to determine where somebody’s MDNA came from? Aaron’s (or his wife’s) would have been the same as their progenitors, as far as you want to take it. So how do you know it came specifically from Aaron in the first place?
That is the whole point. These people want to have their cake and eat it. If their theory is true, everyone’s DNA should be tractable to Noah! Have they figured that one out yet?
You are very welcome.
Not so. The Kohenic genetic marker is located on the Y chromosome, which is only passed down from father to son.
Ok. That means that we cannot tell where a woman came from, right? It seems like when I had my genetics and biochem class, the testing for heretage was done mDNA, and that was only maternal. Please break it into two parts. Is the testing mDNA? and is mDNA passed through the mother? Is the Kohenic on the nuclear DNA?
Yes, I like people who can laugh at themselves—once they have discovered how ridiculous they really are.Thanks, I needed that.
That’s not what I said. I said that the Kohenic marker (the one that determines whether a man is descended from Aaron) is located on the Y chromosome. mDNA, on the other hand, is passed down only through the matrilineal line. Two completely separate things.
Ok. THe only familial studies that I was familiar with used the mDNA. I was not aware of the Kohenic one. I just googled it. Interesting. The studies occured after I was out of school and no longer following biochem news.
Maybe God changed their DNA, like with Adam and Eve. Oh, and the Lamanites too.
All the articles I’ve read so far…it appears that THE most famous person who attended this funeral was presidential-hopeful Mitt Romney. It seems from the mainstream news media that pretty much the reason it was covered as much as it was was BECAUSE Mitt Romney took out this time from his campaign right before Super Tuesday.
Pretty much only Mormons attended this funeral and their conference center wasn’t even full. It’s not like the current president, former presidents, and heads of state or the Pope attended.
Notable attendees
The LDS Church said the following political leaders, in addition to many other Utah politicians and community leaders, attended Gordon B. Hinckley’s funeral. They include:
Republican Utah Sens. Orrin Hatch and Bob Bennett (both Mormon)
Republican Utah Reps. Rob Bishop and Chris Cannon (both Mormon)
Democratic Utah Rep. Jim Matheson (Mormon)
Sen. Mike Crapo, R-Idaho (Mormon)
Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif (Mormon)
Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz (Mormon)
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada (Mormon)
Sen. Gordon Smith, R-Oregon (Mormon)
Mike Leavitt, U.S. secretary of Health and Human Services (former Utah governor and SURPRISE!!! He’s ALSO Mormon)
