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TexanKnight said:
What would anyone like to know about LDS Temples?
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I actually have two questions.
  1. Is the anointing as creepy as I have heard it described by others?
  2. Is all of this stuff done like an assembly line?
 
twopekinguys said:
I actually have two questions.
  1. Is the anointing as creepy as I have heard it described by others?
Eye of the beholder. And you need to define annointing. Lots of different ceremonies done in the temple. Baptisms for Dead, endowments, sealings, etc.
  1. Is all of this stuff done like an assembly line?
Endowments, no. Baptisms and sealings, sorta
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twopekinguys said:
I actually have two questions.
  1. Is the anointing as creepy as I have heard it described by others?
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Not anymore. Now (since 2005 I believe), during the Initiatory, or Washing and Anointing, you sit in a cubicle like area, surrounded by white drapes, wearing a white poncho-like thing. The officiator puts water on your forehead then pronounces blessings. Then, oil is put on your head, and more blessings are pronounced. It is stated that the washing and anointing, and clothing in the garment, were done anciently as we read in Exodus (specifically Exodus 40:12-13 **And thou shalt bring Aaron and his sons unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and wash them with water. 13 And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest’s office. **) They then say that these ordinances are also offered in the temple, though symbolically.

“Symbolically” refers to the fact that in the past, various parts of the body were anointed and washed while the blessings were pronounced on each part (i.e. neck, shoulders, eyes, ears, nose, breast, legs, etc). Those that know the Eastern chrismation may find some similarity there. Now, as I mentioned, the water and oil are only applied on the head, and the other parts are anointed and washed symbolically.
  1. Is all of this stuff done like an assembly line?
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Somewhat. Baptisms for the dead can certainly seem like that. Other things like the Endowment are less so.
 
twopekinguys said:
I actually have two questions.
  1. Is the anointing as creepy as I have heard it described by others?
  2. Is all of this stuff done like an assembly line?
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it was creepier pre-1990 when you still made oaths to kill and/or be killed by throat slashing and disembowling.

It was also creepy to see Catholic Priests as agents of Satan and for wives to vow to obey husbands…
 
TexanKnight said:
What would anyone like to know about LDS Temples?
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Yes, who pays? Is it local or from the SLC coffers? As I said I can’t imagine many Italians becoming Mormon, will the Roma Temple stand empty and unused for the most part? Is it just a stab in the eye of the RCC?

I think they may be just spending a lot of money to show foolish pride.
 
andrewstx said:
Yes, who pays? Is it local or from the SLC coffers? As I said I can’t imagine many Italians becoming Mormon, will the Roma Temple stand empty and unused for the most part? Is it just a stab in the eye of the RCC?

I think they may be just spending a lot of money to show foolish pride.
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I’m guessing Mormons from neighboring areas/countries may also travel to that temple.

Not sure about the specifics of the funding, but I do know that on the Tithing and Other Offerings slip, there’s a “Temple construction” section (in addition to Tithing, Fast Offering, Ward Missionary, General Missionary, Book of Mormon, Humanitarian Aid, Perpetual Education, and Other). Apparently you can also pay to fund members that aren’t able to afford to travel to a temple (Temple Patron Assistance Fund).
 
SteveVH said:
Are there any Temples in Muslim countries? Do they venture into harms way?
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No temples at this point, though they do have wards and branches (they recently dedicated a new stake center building in Abu Dhabi, in February). Very few Mormons in the Middle East, and those countries also have no proselytizing rules, so no proselytizing missionaries there.
 
ThatOrthodoxGuy said:
What is the significance of a temple? The Orthodox refer to our parishes as temples.
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Mormons have chapels and temples. Chapels or Meetinghouses are where they go on Sundays for worship and learning, as well as various activities and classes throughout the week. Temples are where they go for what are regarded as very sacred ordinances, and it is believed that God’s Spirit dwells there in a special way. Only Mormons holding a “temple recommend” (a card signed by church leaders that basically means that they have been found, after an interview, to be believing and practicing Mormons, and are “worthy” to enter the temple) are able to attend after it is dedicated. They do eternal marriages, washing and anointing, the Endowment (basically a presentation of the creation and other events, they make various covenants, and symbolically enter the presence of God), and ordinances for the deceased (they believe that you can offer the same ordinances, like baptism, confirmation, ordination, etc for those that didn’t have the opportunity to receive them in this life, and that’s done in the temples).
 
LivingWaters7 said:
No temples at this point, though they do have wards and branches (they recently dedicated a new stake center building in Abu Dhabi, in February). Very few Mormons in the Middle East, and those countries also have no proselytizing rules, so no proselytizing missionaries there.
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Just curious. I spoke with a priest from Qatar. There are over 50,000 Catholics living in that country and the entire community is underground. The priest can be imprisoned, or worse, for even wearing a cross. But he continues to serve, even at the very possible cost of his life. It is illegal to be a Christian in that country and they enforce it. I just admire his faith and his courage.

Have Mormons run into these problems in Muslim countries?
 
ThatOrthodoxGuy said:
What is the significance of a temple? The Orthodox refer to our parishes as temples.
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A Mormon temple is entirely different from an Orthodox Temple. In Orthodoxy a temple can be any parish church.

But in mormondom a parish church is called a ward or stake chapel. A temple is a specialized place not used for ordinaery worship. There are relatively few temples when compared to chapels.

No one can enter a temple, not even all Mormons. They have to have a “temple recommend” given by the local bishop saying they are “worthy” and pay tithe.

A Mormon bishop is very different from an Orthodox bishop as well. A Mormon bishop heads a local parish called a ward. There can be many Mormon bishops all in the same city.
 
SteveVH said:
Just curious. I spoke with a priest from Qatar. There are over 50,000 Catholics living in that country and the entire community is underground. The priest can be imprisoned, or worse, for even wearing a cross. But he continues to serve, even at the very possible cost of his life. It is illegal to be a Christian in that country and they enforce it. I just admire his faith and his courage.

Have Mormons run into these problems in Muslim countries?
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No idea. I’m assuming Mormons face similar issues to other non-Muslims in the less tolerant countries.
 
SteveVH said:
Just curious. I spoke with a priest from Qatar. There are over 50,000 Catholics living in that country and the entire community is underground. The priest can be imprisoned, or worse, for even wearing a cross. But he continues to serve, even at the very possible cost of his life. It is illegal to be a Christian in that country and they enforce it. I just admire his faith and his courage.

Have Mormons run into these problems in Muslim countries?
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Historically speaking, I think you’ll find that Catholics tend to be the ones opening doors in other countries. Including the hostile ones.

Protestants and mormons tend to come after.
 
twopekinguys said:
Historically speaking, I think you’ll find that Catholics tend to be the ones opening doors in other countries. Including the hostile ones.

Protestants and mormons tend to come after.
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Catholics and Orthodoxy 😉
 
lynnettejane said:
Where did the Rome Mormon temple dedication thread go?
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To the magical land of “man-made” religion with innovate teachings,doctrines,uncivilized folks; who met Jesus plus who had many wives on unexplored planets where one is a god…:tiphat:
 
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