Space and time is not applicable to God. God is outside of time, thus years is important to creatures.The Reformation was in right direction? You call thousands of different denominations in the right-direction?
A step in the direction of apostasy, maybe.
I’ve been Mormon my entire life and I don’t know of any anti-Catholicism books. The Great Apostasy by Talmage is not an anti-Catholicism book. There is a debate between BH Roberts and Father van der Donckt that’s published into a book, but that’s hardly “anti-Catholic.”
I don’t know. D&C says there’s a lot of good stuff in Catholic Bibles. I’ll start reading the uniquely Catholic books as soon as I’m done with the Protestant Bible.
Nov. 1, 101 A.D.
Like Irenaeus said, the sin was disobedience, not the desire to become like gods.
Knowing good and evil. That’s essential to our growth.
That’s no consolation to those who die without hearing about Jesus.
But the disobedience was a result of the desire. The temptation presented to Adam and Eve was that they would “be like gods”. That was their desire and as a result they were disobedient.
But the desire itself isn’t sinful. I mean, wouldn’t *you *like to know right from wrong?
The apostasy occurred in April 1844 when Joseph Smith rejected God as he revealed himself through Christ to his Church; the Catholic Church which is still here on earth teaching what Christ taught it.
There are a few succinct paragraphs and several article references that a student of this subject can find by reading the article on “Great Apostasy” in Wikipedia, which also includes more than a Latter-day Saints perspective on the subject. Those can be read by someone who believes this is not a subject that has been studied about or “defined”, and hopefully they will see that it is not such a mysterious topic after all.
A loss of authority and some truths.
It began some time after 200 AD and after the Bible was compiled.
Whose face was Joe actually gazing upon? The devil has also appeared as “a personage” - which is much more likely here, since we know that no one may look upon God’s face and live - at least of you believe God (Exodus 33:20).
Not to be confused with Isaiah 29:13 "Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men"
Somewhere along the line America ceased to be a God-fearing nation. When? What specific day? Really? Is that necessary to recognize that America has fallen from God’s grace?
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Parker here is another thing that bothers me. Your first sentence. Now you said you do not believe that your Church is the only Church that has the fullness of the truth.Hi, Bibiomomiac,
(I hope that you are a lover of the Bible, as am I.)
It’s a good question you’ve asked. (First, simply, Latter-day Saints don’t think or “assume their church to be the only ‘real’ Christian church”. “Authorized church with continuing revelation to guide its leaders in leading people to the ordinances and covenants centered in Jesus Christ that lead to exaltation through His grace and His shepherding influence” would be a way you could put it that would express the thinking.)
If you would like to understand the Latter-day Saints perspective about how it could be possible that God would inspire the writing of beautiful, wonderful hymns of praise by those who were no doubt experiencing His love and blessing in their lives, then perhaps it would help to think of a “truth source” with pure truth beaming across the universe and available to all. (God is no respecter of persons, right?)
As humble, prayerful people have sought truth and guidance in their lives from that “truth source”, then they have certainly been able to receive truths and guidance and blessings which are always promised through obeying those truths. That would include the inspiration to write beautiful hymns of praise and adoration. Those were “real Christians”, with real love for Christ and the real inspiration of Christ and the Holy Spirit.
I haven’t heard the term “dead churches” used in my church, nor do I believe that terminology for a second. An individual person can be “dead to Christ” by having experienced “spiritual death” through having rejected their conscience and rejected the influence of the Holy Spirit in their personal life, but that doesn’t mean they have belonged to a church that led them to that point. It means they weren’t paying attention, if their church used the truths from the Bible as the basis for teaching about living the gospel of Jesus Christ.
They can be spiritually alive and spiritually awakened as they read the Bible and live by its teachings, including seeking inspiration from God through humble prayer and their desires to have the love of God in their heart and to act on that love in how they serve the people around them.
Sorry for the long answer to a short question.Wishing you peace and a wonderful day.
Where did Christ say that?
Hi, Rinnie,