I guess I am that blind!
Quran wasn’t revealed to be preserved in any book but in peoples memory. Since the time of Prophet (pbuh) it people use to memorise the Quran and even today people do keep it in mind more than the do it in a book, becasue that is how it is supposed to be preserved. It is a promise of God and he have his own way to fulfill that.
He doesn’t understand/care. He’s just committed to pushing the same Islamic line about the Bible, and all the time quoting from it, proving it has AUTHORITY
It shows how far gone Islamic thinking is from logic.I love it! You quote the bible to tell us the bible is corrupt!
The problem is, I don’t keep it in my pocket. But there are some CHRISTIAN scholars who is supposed to provide the evidence for those additions and removals. Why don’t you get to them since it’s your faith hanging on the rope? The scholars worked behind NIV version is supposed to give you the evidence for the comment,I guess I am that blind!
Frankly I have difficulty with cut-and-paste posts which is ironically enough why I find the Quran a shoddy plagerism of Jewish and Christian texts at best.
Is there documentary evidence dated before the canonization of the Bible showing corruption (not issues of translation, but a true corruption)? If so why has this document(s) not been produced? If you are going to say something changed you need to be able to go from point A to point B. Muslims like to claim point C is before A and therfor B is corrupt. First century scrolls show no corruption so…
I have given it already in Post No. 14 onwards…
It really doesn’t matter to me. These are going to be your beliefs regardless, but I was looking to discuss evidence. I’m more curious of whether or not you accept the common Muslim argument I mentioned in my first post.
You haven’t given any evidence for your arguement.
Don’t call it MY argument. I’d be ashamed to have come up with such a half-baked standard for reliability! The argument I mentioned is frequently used by a bunch of Muslims, and you knew this already. If you don’t want to tell us whether or not you agree with it, just come right out and say that. I’m almost thinking you may have used it yourself already a couple of times, and so you’re too ashamed to admit it.You haven’t given any evidence for your arguement.
It is. At least, where they interpret it to be in agreement with the Quran. Sometimes they will cite verses that mention the Holy Spirit, and claim it talks about Mohammed, etc.
Let’s go to your OP. You said,
It is not the Bible is true, but the earlier scriptures that Bible books were developed, was true.
I don’t get this sentence. Could you explain please?
The words of God TORAH, ZABOOR, SCROLLS OF ABRAHAM (pbuh), INJEEL were true.
Have you got more literature on this? I’ve never heard this.
I don’t get this sentence. Could you explain please?
No evidence is needed, to prove a negative argument. But if you have any evidence on your part, you can try and disprove it. There is no original manuscript of any part of the Quran (the originals were written on separate pieces of whatever objects people could get a hold of at the time of each revelation) in existence today. If you find one that does exist, let me know.Let’s go to your OP. You said,
*Many times I will hear a Muslim say that they can’t trust anything in the Bible, because of the fact that none of the original texts remain to this day. Ironically, this same fact applies to the Quran as well *but somehow they don’t find it a problem in that case.
I was asking the evidence for the underlined.
On interpreting the Holy Spirit as Mohammed… I don’t know of any books that reference that particular argument, but start to look at a lot of Christian/Muslim “debates” or apologetics discussions and you will start to see it come up a few times on the Muslim side.
Have you got more literature on this? I’ve never heard this.
I don’t get this sentence. Could you explain please?
Seems like it - not enough oxygen to your head