Most priests know far more about marriage than most married people do

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a 14 year old doesn’t have the wisdom, training, knowledge, insight, and necessary detachment, or courage as a good priest.

Preposterous assertion.
 
That someone thinks a teenager is as good at helping with substantial matters of the soul as a seasoned priest is a warning sign of how sad and threadbare the formation of Catholics has fallen to.

I will read all future posts of yours in this red light.
 
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Edward_H said:
That someone thinks a teenager is as good at helping with substantial matters of the soul as a seasoned priest is a warning sign of how sad and threadbare the formation of Catholics has fallen to.

I will read all future posts of yours in this red light.
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The priest is a priest.

But the teenager and the husband live with me, see me at all hours of day and night, have live lived with me and known me for years, and they don’t have to rely on just my description of my actions (as the priest does). They can see what I’m doing.
 
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"The “Church” is an abstraction. A spouse is a living breathing emotional with needs and expectations.
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Absolutely not!!! The Church is a living organism, not a mere organization! The Church is the Bride of Christ, made up of flesh and blood, not an ‘abstraction’! The Church is a ‘SPOUSE’, a more intimate spouse than that of a married couple.
 
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I do not agree. More intimate than a spouse? How so?
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“If any one comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." - Luke 14:26

This hyperbolic statement illustrates the demands of placing the primacy of loving Christ more than our spouses; to have a more intimate and radical, nuptial relationship with Him, more than our ‘wife’.

I think more than one person on this thread is exclusively reducing intimacy to that of conjugal relations, which is a mockery of what intimacy is all about. The most intimate relationship ever had on Earth was between Our Blessed Mother and Our Blessed Lord.
 
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Xantippe said:
But the teenager and the husband live with me, see me at all hours of day and night, have live lived with me and known me for years, and they don’t have to rely on just my description of my actions (as the priest does). They can see what I’m doing.
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That is why marriage is a sacrament.
 
In Eucharist you are uniting with the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ, perfect man and perfect God, creator of yourself and the entire universe.

Moreover you are uniting with all His virtues and all His merits.

Compared to conjugal union…
 
If you bring the universe into it how can you say it is not an abstraction?
 
Edward_H said:
Now you’re speaking for your parents.

You have NO IDEA what they confessed or communicated in Confession.

Don’t waste our good time trying to play pretend.
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There’s always a dimension of marriage that’s a closed book to the kids (my parents’ marriage continues to be a mystery to me), but there is going to be a side of it that the kids will see and hear that the pastor won’t.
 
Edward_H said:
Now you’re speaking for your parents.

You have NO IDEA what they confessed or communicated in Confession.

Don’t waste our good time trying to play pretend.
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People generally don’t confess terrible things that were done TO them, or terrible things they do that are ongoing.

PS That was quite rude.
 
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It’s [edit: the Eucharist] God and God is not an abstraction.
 
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