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Thewhofreak,

Satan’s greatest tool is to convince all that he does not exist. There is one thing in this world that God made that is truely powerful and honestly one of the most destructive and constructive things in the world. That is Sound and Music. Music is the one thing that no matter who you are, you can understand it. It speaks to us on a level that nothing else on this world can. It can even make us think better, like a child who cant do his homework in silence, but turn on some music while he does his homework and blast through it and his home work is done right. Music is the ONLY thing on this world that God Built into all of us to be truly universal. It can convey so many emotions. It get some one pumped up for War ( like the New Zealand All Blacks doing the Hakka, before a Rugby Game) or bring peace ( Like at a Scottish Funeral, with a bag pipe band playing Amazing Grace). In heaven it is the very thing that the Cherabum and Seraphim do! Music is one of the few things that binds us as humans together, because we really are the only ones in this world that can do it, because we are made in the Image of God and the only thing created who is made in his image. Now my point is, Lucifer was the chief Angel, In many wittings he was said to Lead the Choir in Heaven, before he fell. So that being said Music is what Satan does. So to say that it is not the all comprising factor is a load of Crock and Satan is already winning in your life. So having satan’s greatest weapon being convinceing us he does not exist and him knowing everything about music, means that he can convince that only some songs are ok but others arent. You can not pick and choose the parts of the bible, you either believe it all or none of it. so you can not pick and Choose songs from an evil band and say they are ok when they are not. It is all evil. Now i say all this from a protestant Point of View because i am one, At least untill easter Vigil, but the Picking and choosing is what got us protestants in trouble in the first place. One day your gonna have stand before God and explain to him everything you did. So when he asks why you listened to evil music and put that filth in your head and heart what are you gonna say? St.Paul said " Everything is Lawful, but not everything is Beneficial" How is Music like slayer, Slipknot, Godsmack, Mudvayne, Head, Cradle of Filth, Demo Bugior, Children of Bodom, Lamb of God, Benefiting you as a Believer in our Lord Jesus Christ? IT Defiantly is not Furthering the kingdom of Heaven. There fore it is trash and darkness, Christ said that we are the light of the world, So what does Darkness have any business hanging out with light.

Be very careful little ears what you hear. Because one day Jesus might Deny you in you heaven, because how you denied him here with what you filled your head with, And left no room for him.
 
Dchsknight said:
How is Music like slayer, Slipknot, Godsmack, Mudvayne, Head, Cradle of Filth, Demo Bugior, Children of Bodom, Lamb of God, Benefiting you as a Believer in our Lord Jesus Christ? IT Defiantly is not Furthering the kingdom of Heaven. There fore it is trash and darkness, Christ said that we are the light of the world, So what does Darkness have any business hanging out with light.
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Music for most people is escapism. Fantasy. Day-dreaming. Actually in my case, fast and aggressive music helps to empower me and encourages me to do good if anything, despite the lyrical content being so negative.

What is wrong with lyrical content about death anyway? The context of it may be negative, but I grew up in the ghetto where life isn’t pretty. You see drug dealers, gang members. All my friends from those days are either in prison or dead. Death is all around you- it’s real. Not everyone grew up apart of the Brady Bunch, thus softer and sugarcoated music and movies do not appeal or relate to everyone. The Bible’s content is just as extreme, really, and actually deals with a lot of what these bands are singing about (not really the ones you listed though).
 
So, just because picking and choosing in the Bible is bad, that also means picking and choosing from anything is bad? :confused: After reading your post I guess I have to accept your point and take all of the Slayer songs off of my iPod. I’m not trying to be sarcastic or anything like that, I just see your point as valid and respect that now. Thanks:) I just hope you aren’t one of those people that think that ALL rock and heavy metal music is of Satan, those guys anger me.:mad: Thanks man.
 
TheWhoFreak said:
So, just because picking and choosing in the Bible is bad, that also means picking and choosing from anything is bad? :confused: After reading your post I guess I have to accept your point and take all of the Slayer songs off of my iPod. I’m not trying to be sarcastic or anything like that, I just see your point as valid and respect that now. Thanks:) I just hope you aren’t one of those people that think that ALL rock and heavy metal music is of Satan, those guys anger me.:mad: Thanks man.
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Believe it or not, it’s actually kind of rare to find a legitimate Satanic band.

Musicians you think are Satanic simply use such content in their music for mere entertainment and shock value, such as Slayer.

A lot of bands that fall under “Satanic,” however, would be of the Black Metal genre. I’m not sure if all of them are Satanic, but most are.

Ironically Yours. ❤️
 
Oh no i dont think all rock and Heavy metal is bad. In fact quite the Opposite. I love the stuff, but i dont love music that Glorifies the devil. Bands like Slayer and pantera, sipknot all glorify the devil and that is stuff you should not be listening to. If you like the heavy stuff, Try out stuff like Nightwish, All that Remains, Demon Hunter, As i lay dying, Underoath, and bands of that nature, That stuff is heavy aggressive and Most defitnly Edifies the lord and Glorifies him. Also to people who say all rock is bad, the Lord said “Make a joyful NOISE”
 
Dchsknight said:
Oh no i dont think all rock and Heavy metal is bad. In fact quite the Opposite. I love the stuff, but i dont love music that Glorifies the devil. Bands like Slayer and pantera, sipknot all glorify the devil and that is stuff you should not be listening to. If you like the heavy stuff, Try out stuff like Nightwish, All that Remains, Demon Hunter, As i lay dying, Underoath, and bands of that nature, That stuff is heavy aggressive and Most defitnly Edifies the lord and Glorifies him. Also to people who say all rock is bad, the Lord said “Make a joyful NOISE”
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All of those bands you mentioned to be Satanic are not… especially Underoath; they’re Christian.

None of them worship the Devil… at all.

Again, only Black Metal is Satanic.
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
All of those bands you mentioned to be Satanic are not… especially Underoath; they’re Christian.

None of them worship the Devil… at all.

Again, only Black Metal is Satanic.
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There are only a minimal handful of ‘othrodox satanic’ bands out there today that which practice rituals and the whole nine yards, however most of them are simply atheists with lack of social skills and drinking problems. One of the ongoing orthodox bands being Acheron, featuring Vincent Crowley, who is obviously directly related and apart of the Church of Satan. I don’t know how well you can justify that as they have an album which is entitled ‘Rites of the Black Mass’ which is basically a death metal version of their mass.

On the other hand, there are “black metal” bands such as Immortal from Norway, who sing mostly about frost, forests, and nature in general. Not all black metal is satanic either. For example, Horde’s “Helig Usvarte” album is actually Christian, but played very well and is an example of some classic BM.
 
SeekingHeaven said:
There are only a minimal handful of ‘othrodox satanic’ bands out there today that which practice rituals and the whole nine yards, however most of them are simply atheists with lack of social skills and drinking problems. One of the ongoing orthodox bands being Acheron, featuring Vincent Crowley, who is obviously directly related and apart of the Church of Satan. I don’t know how well you can justify that as they have an album which is entitled ‘Rites of the Black Mass’ which is basically a death metal version of their mass.

On the other hand, there are “black metal” bands such as Immortal from Norway, who sing mostly about frost, forests, and nature in general. Not all black metal is satanic either. For example, Horde’s “Helig Usvarte” album is actually Christian, but played very well and is an example of some classic BM.
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I know not all Black Metal bands are Satanic (and I’m sorry for generalizing on my previous post), but a lot of the “Satanic” stuff those other bands of other genres put into their music is simply for shock value.

Besides, just because a fair many of them are atheists, doesn’t mean they are Satanic. There is a bold line.

Ironically Yours. ❤️
 
Blade_and_Blood said:
Besides, just because a fair many of them are atheists, doesn’t mean they are Satanic. There is a bold line.

Ironically Yours. ❤️
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That’s what I was getting at. A lot of black metal bands just use imagery for shock value as well and those are the bands that consist of mere atheists with no real agenda other than trying to release a record for the sake of it.

Satanism isn’t just limited to black metal or metal in general however. It is in other forms of music as well and not only for ‘shock value.’
 
Out of mere curiosity, for those who listen to musicians who appear to have a satanic or evil persuasion, but in reality, it’s “just a show”…

If you wouldn’t expose yourself to the real Satanic music, why would you expose yourself to the false Satanic music?

I mean, how do you reconcile to yourself that it is different to you, in terms of absorbing the evil messages into your mind? Is the message of these two types of groups quite different?

Just wondering…
 
While we’re discussing music, are all your songs paid for or do you use those free download sites?

I do hope you’re listening to music you’ve paid for.
 
SteveGC said:
Out of mere curiosity, for those who listen to musicians who appear to have a satanic or evil persuasion, but in reality, it’s “just a show”…

If you wouldn’t expose yourself to the real Satanic music, why would you expose yourself to the false Satanic music?

I mean, how do you reconcile to yourself that it is different to you, in terms of absorbing the evil messages into your mind? Is the message of these two types of groups quite different?

Just wondering…
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It’s just a numbers game really. More non-Christians than Christians write this type of music, especially such music that is capable of invoking deep emotion and creating atmospheres that cannot be found in many other places. If I discovered such a Christian band (which I have, but the number of Christan bands to non-Christian is outweighed heavily) then I would be just as crazy about them as well.

The problem is that many Christians, Satanists, political parties, all alike use music solely as an avenue to spread their beliefs, thus resulting in the music itself heavily lacking in substance.
 
For all those loving heavy metal but want a band that has substance look up the band Demon Hunter, especially the albums, Tryptich and Strom the Gates of Hell. Some of the most powerful music i have ever heard.
 
Dchsknight said:
For all those loving heavy metal but want a band that has substance look up the band Demon Hunter, especially the albums, Tryptich and Strom the Gates of Hell. Some of the most powerful music i have ever heard.
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Not into that style of music, it’s hard music I guess but it isn’t substantial in terms of ‘heavy metal.’ I do like the bands that I listed a few posts up who are Christian, but there aren’t enough.
 
SteveGC said:
Out of mere curiosity, for those who listen to musicians who appear to have a satanic or evil persuasion, but in reality, it’s “just a show”…

If you wouldn’t expose yourself to the real Satanic music, why would you expose yourself to the false Satanic music?

I mean, how do you reconcile to yourself that it is different to you, in terms of absorbing the evil messages into your mind? Is the message of these two types of groups quite different?

Just wondering…
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I would actually “expose” myself to Satanic music. The only problem is that most of them are too heavy for me (in sound), and their lyrics aren’t very poetic…

Otherwise, I would listen to them. They’re just not my style.

Ironically Yours. ❤️
 
Incomplete said:
While we’re discussing music, are all your songs paid for or do you use those free download sites?

I do hope you’re listening to music you’ve paid for.
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I don’t really like the quality of downloading music, so I’m more of a CD type of girl–yeah, I don’t even own an iPod.

I do, however, have a playlist account… I don’t think that’s necessarily downloading music, though. :confused:
 
NoobSalad41 said:
The lead vocalist of slayer is (or claims to be) Catholic

I do not understand 🤷
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Many use the title “Catholic”.

Many don’t think it means what it should.

Far too many use it as a cultural term. As in, “i was raised Catholic”. The word has become multi-descriptive, like the term Jewish. There’s a difference between a Jew born into a Jewish family, and a Jew who devoutly practices their Jewish faith. Much the same nowadays with “Catholic”. Think of celebrities like Joy Behar, on “The View” (which I don’t watch). She claims to be a “Catholic” when they get into religious topics, but she knows nothing of her faith, even challenges it. You see, she calls herself that because she was born into it, and either fell away, or never practiced, or whatever. Folks like her (and perhaps this vocalist in Slayer) give those of us who strive to really understand and live our faith, a bad name.

I could be wrong about these folks. I do not judge. Just an observation.

God Bless
 
SteveGC said:
Many use the title “Catholic”.

Many don’t think it means what it should.

Far too many use it as a cultural term. As in, “i was raised Catholic”. The word has become multi-descriptive, like the term Jewish. There’s a difference between a Jew born into a Jewish family, and a Jew who devoutly practices their Jewish faith. Much the same nowadays with “Catholic”. Think of celebrities like Joy Behar, on “The View” (which I don’t watch). She claims to be a “Catholic” when they get into religious topics, but she knows nothing of her faith, even challenges it. You see, she calls herself that because she was born into it, and either fell away, or never practiced, or whatever. Folks like her (and perhaps this vocalist in Slayer) give those of us who strive to really understand and live our faith, a bad name.

I could be wrong about these folks. I do not judge. Just an observation.

God Bless
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Actually Tom Araya a few years ago just started believing in God and calling himself a Catholic. What opened his eyes to this was a near-death experience, being on an airplane that should’ve crashed and he cried out to God to save him and he miraculously survived. I am pretty sure he was also born into it as well though.

But honestly, the imagery is more silly than anything wouldn’t you agree? It’s equivalent to a B grade horror movie that you can’t help but lend a smirk to.
 
so does the genre of the music have nothing to do with it being sinful, only the lyrical content? and if the band has some songs with sinful lyrics, but some songs without sinful lyrics, would it be wrong to listen to only the non-sinful ones because you would be supporting an artist who makes songs that are sinful? because i like music that screams are these sounds a disgrace to our God-given musical talents?

and back to movies…

are the usccb’s ratings of O (morally offensive) the only movies we should never watch, and just be careful not to be tempted by lower ratings?

sorry for all of the questions, but music is one of my ultimate forms of entertainment, and comedies and action movies are up there too. i just want to know if i can continue to enjoy these types of things.
 
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