MOVIES: Deliver Us From Evil

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True. My concern is that the show will depict all priests as being that way.
I can understand you concern…I know that there are many GREAT priests out there:thumbsup: but you know what if even 1 knew of what was going on and did nothing about it…I hold them just as responsible for these horrible acts!
 
The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of many bishops.
-Orthodox proverb (attrib. St. John Chrysostom)
 
Even when a priest is in error we should never attack them but pray for them and do penance for them that they could return to Gods grace. God alone will be his judge.

“Pray for the Priests. Pray with might and do not cease praying for the devil wants their downfall.”
Mama Rosa Quattrini
Teaching incorrect dogma or challenging Church authority is “error”. Raping children is a heinous crime. As is its concealment. Please don’t confuse the two. God will, indeed, judge their souls, as well as the souls of those who enable them. In the mean time, they should face just punishment from society.
 
Lord have mercy on us all. Things like this make me so TORN…I’ve met His Eminence, and was denied a blessing from him because I was with a pro-life group…
Cardinal Mahoney refused to give you a blessing because you were with a pro-life group? I would appreciate some more details please.
 
The View talked about this movie today. They insisted that its not a homosexual problem–of course. They also insisted that Cardinal Mahoney did know about it, and that letters were exchanged between him and O’Grady. They read a statement denying Mahoney’s knowledge. They said the Vatican refused to see the families.

I will NOT let this crush my faith in God and His Church. But, I honestly am thinking that the “smoke of Satan” really has entered the Church and we are reaping what has been sewn.

May God help us all.
 
Did anybody get what was said on The View regarding how they implicated the Pope covering up or not investigating the sex scandal? I didn’t hear the whole thing but Rosie O’Donnell said the coverup goes as high as the Pope. What was the comment about and what are the facts regarding the Pope’s involvement?
 
If i remember correctly, she said that the current pope was in charge of investigating the scandal…or something like that.
 
Did anybody get what was said on The View regarding how they implicated the Pope covering up or not investigating the sex scandal? I didn’t hear the whole thing but Rosie O’Donnell said the coverup goes as high as the Pope. What was the comment about and what are the facts regarding the Pope’s involvement?
I don’t watch “The View” because of the anti-Catholic rants spewed regularly by Joy Behar & now O’Donnell’s 2 cents. If you are interested in what The Catholic League has to say about that episode, go to www.catholicleague.org and read the news release titled: The View sports bigotry. I wouldn’t go to The View looking for fairness when it comes to The Catholic Church. It won’t be found. Ever.:cool:
 
I don’t watch “The View” because of the anti-Catholic rants spewed regularly by Joy Behar & now O’Donnell’s 2 cents. If you are interested in what The Catholic League has to say about that episode, go to www.catholicleague.org and read the news release titled: The View sports bigotry. I wouldn’t go to The View looking for fairness when it comes to The Catholic Church. It won’t be found. Ever.:cool:
I am puzzled ,The film is about abusing children and how the church delt with it , Have you every been with a victim to get help from the church .And where is the bigotry wanting justice from those who abused children and those who covered up the abuse .Pope expresses sorrow at Ferns abuse Ireland, only he does not address why it happened, and he had not Addressed what happened in the Industrial schools. Where every child who went to one has a criminal record even though most never commited a crime ,please tell me where the bigotry if you were left handed and called spawn of the devil as a child by the religous ordres ,In Ireland ,Please tell me weres the bigotry in pointing out that the Head of the church in Ireland HAS PRAISED MURDERES Yours Michael McManus
 
We must try to forget about these movies and shows that pose a threat to the credibility of the Church. Move on.

If they attack the Church, dont watch. Simple.
 
We must try to forget about these movies and shows that pose a threat to the credibility of the Church. Move on.

If they attack the Church, dont watch. Simple.
The only people who pose a threat to the church are those who are blind ,deaf and dumb to what really happend no one else ,yours Michael McManus
 
Pontilff’s act of contrition provides little succour for the many victims of abuse
IT has taken Pope Benedict XVI a full calendar year to comment on the Ferns Report that published shocking details of child sex abuses or alleged abuses by 26 priests in the small Wexford diocese.

While the Pope’s belated act of contrition and expression of personal hurt are to be welcomed, his statement of regret has not been accompanied by a firm purpose of amendment.

This is in part due to the indirect manner of the Pope’s remarks to the Irish public - made through a press statement issued some hours after the new Bishop of Ferns, Denis Brennan, had met the Pontiff at a private audience in the Vatican.

While Bishop Brennan’s well-meaning press release was designed to restore confidence in the local clergy and laity, its pious tone does not convey any real insight into the policies being pursued by the Pope to eradicate the scourge of priestly rape of children in Church care.

The soothing tone of the statement fails to remind us of the sheer horror of what took place in seminaries and church houses in the diocese of Ferns. The 271-page report, which was clinically put together by former Supreme Court judge Mr Justice Frank Murphy, was a painstakingly lucid account of the full horrors of Ferns.

Its grim findings catapulted the small rural diocese, which covers Co Wexford and part of Co Wicklow, to the top of the Church’s infamy league.

It also accelerated the collapse in the credibility and moral authority not just of the Catholic Church, but also of its doctrinal masters in the Vatican.

Amid all the media commentaries, and the Government’s pledges to inquire into other dioceses, especially the archdiocese of Dublin, Pope Benedict remained silent.

The Pontiff’s lack of comment over the past 12 months disturbed even the most devout of Irish Catholics and caused outrage among victims. It appeared to some that he was doing a Pontius Pilate, washing his hands of the errant Ferns clerics. Even government ministers wondered if the Papacy was in denial about what had happened under ecclesiastical roofs.

His defenders have pointed out that, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger had taken the step of defrocking two of the guilty Ferns clergy.

But his remarks yesterday, however sincere, have left the Pontiff open to the charge that he has not taken full stock of the complicity of the Vatican in the Ferns scandal.

This criticism was eloquently underlined last night by Colm O’Gorman, the founder of the One in Four Victims group, when he questioned the Pope’s apparent lack of comprehension of the permanent damage done by rapist priests to the lives of their young victims.

As Mr O’Gorman pointed out, it is Benedict’s duty as the Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church to put into place mandatory practices for the world’s one billion Catholics in regard to child protection.

It remains to be seen if Pope Benedict will address these undiminished concerns when he issues a statement tomorrow at the conclusion of his meetings with Ireland’s 32 bishops.

unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1712765&issue_id=14812

© Irish Independent
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What would you expect His Holiness to do? He has many more obligations and responsibilities then to focus on this single issue. There are more important issues, there are greater things for the Holy Father to turn his thoughts to. What would you have him do?
 
What would you expect His Holiness to do? He has many more obligations and responsibilities then to focus on this single issue. There are more important issues, there are greater things for the Holy Father to turn his thoughts to. What would you have him do?
I’d just like to hear him say after his next wednesday audience:
“Oh yeah, and that documentary? chuckles
 
The Pontiff’s lack of comment over the past 12 months disturbed even the most devout of Irish Catholics and caused outrage among victims. It appeared to some that he was doing a Pontius Pilate, washing his hands of the errant Ferns clerics. Even government ministers wondered if the Papacy was in denial about what had happened under ecclesiastical roofs.

His defenders have pointed out that, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger had taken the step of defrocking two of the guilty Ferns clergy.

But his remarks yesterday, however sincere, have left the Pontiff open to the charge that he has not taken full stock of the complicity of the Vatican in the Ferns scandal.

This criticism was eloquently underlined last night by Colm O’Gorman, the founder of the One in Four Victims group, when he questioned the Pope’s apparent lack of comprehension of the permanent damage done by rapist priests to the lives of their young victims.

As Mr O’Gorman pointed out, it is Benedict’s duty as the Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church to put into place mandatory practices for the world’s one billion Catholics in regard to child protection.

It remains to be seen if Pope Benedict will address these undiminished concerns when he issues a statement tomorrow at the conclusion of his meetings with Ireland’s 32 bishops.
Caesar, if the number one priority is not the welfare of children ,all the rest will be seen as a public relations stunt nothing else , Sit out side your church and veiw wtat has happened as child protection issue and a credability issue , And look at all thats writen in the bible about helping those who have been harmed ,then come back and tell me and others where was the Christiian actions by the leadership of the church yours Michael McManus
 
I am puzzled ,The film is about abusing children and how the church delt with it , Have you every been with a victim to get help from the church .And where is the bigotry wanting justice from those who abused children and those who covered up the abuse .Pope expresses sorrow at Ferns abuse Ireland, only he does not address why it happened, and he had not Addressed what happened in the Industrial schools. Where every child who went to one has a criminal record even though most never commited a crime ,please tell me where the bigotry if you were left handed and called spawn of the devil as a child by the religous ordres ,In Ireland ,Please tell me weres the bigotry in pointing out that the Head of the church in Ireland HAS PRAISED MURDERES Yours Michael McManus
Yes, you are puzzeled. If you had actually read my post you would see that it is in response to post #18. Your rant has no connection with what I said.:cool: :rolleyes:
 
First, pray for our Church. The smoke of Satan is destroying it from the inside. But also remember we have a responsibility to face up to what happened and demand meaningful reform. In my opinion, the bishops have abandoned their flocks, in many cases, to abominations. And they have not taken full responsibility even now.

I would actually suggest that everyone go to the website of the Philadelphia DA and read those documents. The details are sickening, and I don’t think they even cover all the abuse that occurred in the last forty years. It was especially enlightening to look in the appendices where the biographical data on each priest is, including their pictures in clerical garb. They don’t look like snarly gargoyles, just like your regular parish priest, and all smiling serpents none the less.
 
The Pontiff’s lack of comment over the past 12 months disturbed even the most devout of Irish Catholics and caused outrage among victims. It appeared to some that he was doing a Pontius Pilate, washing his hands of the errant Ferns clerics. Even government ministers wondered if the Papacy was in denial about what had happened under ecclesiastical roofs.

His defenders have pointed out that, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger had taken the step of defrocking two of the guilty Ferns clergy.

But his remarks yesterday, however sincere, have left the Pontiff open to the charge that he has not taken full stock of the complicity of the Vatican in the Ferns scandal.

This criticism was eloquently underlined last night by Colm O’Gorman, the founder of the One in Four Victims group, when he questioned the Pope’s apparent lack of comprehension of the permanent damage done by rapist priests to the lives of their young victims.

As Mr O’Gorman pointed out, it is Benedict’s duty as the Supreme Pastor of the Universal Church to put into place mandatory practices for the world’s one billion Catholics in regard to child protection.

It remains to be seen if Pope Benedict will address these undiminished concerns when he issues a statement tomorrow at the conclusion of his meetings with Ireland’s 32 bishops.
Caesar, if the number one priority is not the welfare of children ,all the rest will be seen as a public relations stunt nothing else , Sit out side your church and veiw wtat has happened as child protection issue and a credability issue , And look at all thats writen in the bible about helping those who have been harmed ,then come back and tell me and others where was the Christiian actions by the leadership of the church yours Michael McManus
First of all, the issues lie with the Dioceses. In matters such as these, the local bishops run the show. The Holy See is not involved in such legal matters.

Secondly, the first priority of the Church is to minister the Sacraments.

His Holiness denounces the abuses, so you criticize him for not saying anything sooner. If hadnt said anything, you would have criticized him then. Has he said something months ago, I have no doubts that you would have found something to say against the glorious Pontiff!
 
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