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My dearest friend from highschool is turning to Islam. These last few years I have been busy and had to change our friendship because I work and now have a family. She called me a few days ago and invited me to her conversion. I admit I know little about islam but it scared me and I don’t know what to tell her. She is married to a catholic man his facebook page shows he is angry at her and is afraid for his kids.:confused: what do I say at this point?
 
I would not go for the simple fact that you would be encouraging a grave sin, that is, leaving the Church in schism/heresy. (Muslims deny Jesus to be anything other then a good teacher. How sad!)

I have seen many young people brainwashed by the ‘truth’ of Islam. It is sad.

But, it is entirely your decision.
 
Said a prayer…yet there are many stories about how people in the middle east are personally encountering Christ and converting from Islam to christianity…i;d recommend this blog by Mosab Hasan yousef and also reading his book…which details his conversion from islam to christianity(it was a NYT bestseller)

sonofhamas.com/
 
JSAD said:
Said a prayer…yet there are many stories about how people in the middle east are personally encountering Christ and converting from Islam to christianity…i;d recommend this blog by Mosab Hasan yousef and also reading his book…which details his conversion from islam to christianity(it was a NYT bestseller)

sonofhamas.com/
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This is true, because here in America we have freedom of speech and religion, so a deceptive cult like Islam is free to operate without interference, so people are disillusioned and tricked in.

In retrospect, in the Middle East, where Christians are daily martyred for their faith against the scourge of Islam, people are converting and turning to Christ because they see its true nature. I call this the ‘Granted complex’ or the ‘Freedom complex’, where living in a free, progressive society makes it easier for evil to take grasp as opposed to in places where oppression reign.
 
Bloved said:
…what do I say at this point?
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Simply give a polite: “Thank-you for the offer, but I believe in the Catholic Church, and Jesus Christ as my Lord. I hope you will reconsider converting to Islam. I would be willing to help you find the answers to any questions about Catholicism and Christianity, but I cannot, in good conscience support your decision to become a Muslim.” Avoid speaking about her husband’s reaction, unless she brings it up, as that should be a private matter between them, not a public spectacle on Facebook.

Be prepared for some initial surprise, and don’t expect any instant reconsideration. If she reacts badly, be polite but firm. If she accepts your refusal, but doesn’t want to follow up, wish her luck and a “God Bless”.
 
I remember that story of a Catholic girl in Cali who became a Muslim and got married, ended up having to get a divorce and protection because of her husband and his families’ harsh abuse and imposing of Sharia law, and then came back to Catholicism, her faith increased 100x.

Sometimes God calls people to Apostasy and Deception so that their faith in his Son may grow. Saul/Paul, is a perfect example!
 
If you are interested in evangelizing your friend or politely sending any information regarding Islam (Be sure that she gives a hint or asks for it otherwise it could make her mad) Then there are plenty of sites out there where former muslims and such have their stories, you can even use Christian converts to Islam as examples, as most of the stories I have read, the end result is the person leaving Islam for atheism or reverting back to Christianity. Here is also a good snippet to give her if she asks.

Mohammed’s disciples killed for faith, Jesus’s disciples were killed for their FAITH.

Mohammed’s was the taker of life, Jesus was the GIVER of LIFE.

Mohammed’s and his cult murdered thousands, Jesus SAVED millions.

Mohammed’s practiced force, Jesus preached FAITH.

Mohammed’s said to the masses “Convert or die!”, J said “BELIEVE & LIVE”.

Mohammed’s preached “death to the infidels!”, Jesus prayed “Forgive them Father they know not what they do.”

Mohammed’s conquered people by war, JESUS conquered by LOVE!
 
Bloved said:
My dearest friend from highschool is turning to Islam. These last few years I have been busy and had to change our friendship because I work and now have a family. She called me a few days ago and invited me to her conversion. I admit I know little about islam but it scared me and I don’t know what to tell her. She is married to a catholic man his facebook page shows he is angry at her and is afraid for his kids.:confused: what do I say at this point?
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Just be a good friend to her, and show the beauty of the Christian faith in your life.

Perhaps you might want to talk to her husband about it?

A lot of these Islamic conversions are very temporary, especially among women. Once she sees how Islam works in daily life, she’ll come running back to the Catholic Church, and Christ will be waiting with open arms.
 
Terraius said:
This is true, because here in America we have freedom of speech and religion, so a deceptive cult like Islam is free to operate without interference, so people are disillusioned and tricked in.
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It’s not a cult, its a religion. Over there in America, there are Muslims too who enjoy the same freedoms as you without seeing any conflicts with their religion.
In retrospect, in the Middle East, where Christians are daily martyred for their faith against the scourge of Islam, people are converting and turning to Christ because they see its true nature. I call this the ‘Granted complex’ or the ‘Freedom complex’, where living in a free, progressive society makes it easier for evil to take grasp as opposed to in places where oppression reign.
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Again, I’m worried by this association of Islam with evil. Ask yourself this - is it culture or religion which causes these problems?
 
Bloved said:
My dearest friend from highschool is turning to Islam. These last few years I have been busy and had to change our friendship because I work and now have a family. She called me a few days ago and invited me to her conversion. I admit I know little about islam but it scared me and I don’t know what to tell her. She is married to a catholic man his facebook page shows he is angry at her and is afraid for his kids.:confused: what do I say at this point?
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My suggestion would be to lovingly, but firmly, challange her decision especially if she is not familiar with with some of the teachings of Islam (i.e. Sharia Law). If she is unwilling to reconsider politely decline and tell her that you will be praying for her in the hopes she will once again see the truth of the Catholic Church. All you can really do is hope and pray that she makes the right decision.
 
LemonAndLime said:
It’s not a cult, its a religion. Over there in America, there are Muslims too who enjoy the same freedoms as you without seeing any conflicts with their religion.

Again, I’m worried by this association of Islam with evil. Ask yourself this - is it culture or religion which causes these problems?
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Im sure there were plenty of nice Nazis during WW2 but their association then and now is still frowned upon.

Islam is savage. I was a muslim. I have seen the Light, and I am now aspiring to become a Priest in the Church.

PM me your address, I will mail you a copy of the Koran with noted verses highlighted and my commentary which shows that Mohammed is nothing more then a glorified Hitler of his day and Islam is the problem, not the scapegoat of their ‘culture’.

I hope God can open your eyes as well, Bless you. :getholy:
 
Terraius said:
Im sure there were plenty of nice Nazis during WW2 but their association then and now is still frowned upon.

Islam is savage. I was a muslim. I have seen the Light, and I am now aspiring to become a Priest in the Church.

PM me your address, I will mail you a copy of the Koran with noted verses highlighted and my commentary which shows that Mohammed is nothing more then a glorified Hitler of his day and Islam is the problem, not the scapegoat of their ‘culture’.

I hope God can open your eyes as well, Bless you. :getholy:
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God bless you. Welcome to the Christian family, brother!
 
I have a question-----does she respect YOUR right to be Catholic?

If she does, then simply wish her well in her enterprise and politely but firmly declare that you cannot attend the ceremony. If you must out of frendship’s sake, make it clear that you are there because of your friendship to her, NOT out of supporting her decision. Tell her that you respect her right to make a decision like that, but that you feel she is wrong and to please reconsider. And show her evidence to get her to reconsider. Is she insists on continuing with this, DON’T end the friendship but continue to pray and try to subtly encourage her to reconsider and eventually turn away from Islam. Jesus, even though he would have totally disagreed with her choice, would not have turned away from her. Ultimately, there is a strong chance she will see Islam for the dangerous, evil religion it is. Many people are now leaving Islam for Christianity after being shown the truth. You have the opportunity to witness to Christ and talk her back to the True Faith. Don’t back away from an opportinty to serve your Lord.
Good luck. And pray, pray, pray about this. Maybe get your priest involved.

My opinion, as always. 👍😦
 
It saddens me when someone ignores what Christ commanded us to do.

She is not suppose to invite you in the first place. She wants to tell and show you that her decision is right and most probably likes you to follow her. If she is too proud of Islam, you have to show her that you are proud to be Catholic. If I were you, I will deny her request and tell her bluntly that you are under spiritual obligation to deny her and her decision is denying Christ. God does not compromise.

Tell her that you are still her friend and will pray for her to reconsider.
 
I wonder if she’s aware she’ll likely have to divorce her husband. The Qu’ran pretty clearly states that a Muslim woman is now allowed to be married to a non-Muslim. Well, it’s certainly none of my business.

As for your friend’s decision, I don’t think it is as cut and dry as others have suggested. It isn’t as if she’ll cease her conversion if you don’t go. What you may do is effectively cut out one of the good, Catholic influences in her life. If our Holy Father can visit a Mosque and pray with Muslim’s then I don’t see why you can’t attend her ceremony. Be sure to express your concerns with her actions, ask her to take a second look at the Catholic Church, and offer to answer any objections (your fellow CAFers will no doubt be happy to assist you in this) to the Catholic faith. In this way you remain friends, continue to be a good influence, and let her know your objection to her action. Outright refusing to go may be a stronger condemnation, but I fear it does more harm than good.
 
I wonder if she’s aware she’ll likely have to divorce her husband. The Qu’ran pretty clearly states that a Muslim woman is now allowed to be married to a non-Muslim. Well, it’s certainly none of my business.
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Depending on how strict the local Mosque collective authority is, it can range from them ignoring it up and to the point of them urging her to convert her husband or seek a divorce.
 
Terraius said:
Depending on how strict the local Mosque collective authority is, it can range from them ignoring it up and to the point of them urging her to convert her husband or seek a divorce.
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Then, can they also urge/order her to flee to an Islamic country, abducting her kids in the process to raise them Muslim? (thinking of the movie “Not Without My Daughter”)
 
Mungling said:
I wonder if she’s aware she’ll likely have to divorce her husband. The Qu’ran pretty clearly states that a Muslim woman is now allowed to be married to a non-Muslim. Well, it’s certainly none of my business.

As for your friend’s decision, I don’t think it is as cut and dry as others have suggested. It isn’t as if she’ll cease her conversion if you don’t go. What you may do is effectively cut out one of the good, Catholic influences in her life. If our Holy Father can visit a Mosque and pray with Muslim’s then I don’t see why you can’t attend her ceremony. Be sure to express your concerns with her actions, ask her to take a second look at the Catholic Church, and offer to answer any objections (your fellow CAFers will no doubt be happy to assist you in this) to the Catholic faith. In this way you remain friends, continue to be a good influence, and let her know your objection to her action. Outright refusing to go may be a stronger condemnation, but I fear it does more harm than good.
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Exactly. Good point. Do NOT cut off the friendship. You may be (as Mungling implied) the ONLY possible way back to the Church she may have.
 
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