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seekerz
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I hope they believe that all things work together for good for those who love God. Mubarak was never going to live forever, so they’re better off relying on God.
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SamH
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And we all see how that turned out.
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seekerz
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Well said. (I added the “t” for you)
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Not_Sure_1
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May God protect the Copts!!
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Loml
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I’m supposed to like them because they aren’t Muslim?Oh------you could care less about Israel poossibly being destroyed and the whole area being thrown into TURMOIL as a result, then?
You could care less about the ONLY Non-Muslim regime in the Region and our Closest Middle Eastern ally?
OOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK.
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Sabda
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I second this. There are Muslims in Egypt who took advantage of this uprising to murder whole Coptic families. From what I understand the last time the Egyptians did this they simply replaced one dictator for another. Before we go around celebrating and patting the Egyptians on the back let’s wait and see who they get for their next leader. Well he truly be democratic or will they simply replace one dictator for another?
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Erich
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Not to pick nits (or derail the thread) but… the USA is not a democracy, it’s a constitutional republic.
Oh, and I wouldn’t exactly call this number of folks in just one city a “small faction”
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRVagCH8LBmA5sOebevQQbINo9eiRTI9rdKt7xag4dTmbRo1GqNCw
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ24SATmlI_dwnU7hGRCzM4-XKufg4u27Uds0MjZ_NAUfYSjc5R
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcST3tfkBo7i-OlqSzgDDTpbiaSKZkxS5eS3Bw_Jtho2-XZ4oOHm
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjjSb9yAsUMDe0NmE4lFXhBPS_4DGgQgvDmBjGNO-l_Ah4ufwr
Oh, absolutely! BTW, my “small faction” contributed to the largest seat change since 1948 and the largest seat change for any midterm election since 1938:
We now return to our regularly-scheduled thread…
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Carlan
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Well Sabda, as Christians we must trust God for the advance of Democracy in Egypt. We must be positive for this advance of Egypt and we must trust God and pray for their success and tolerance of Christians, all Copts in Egypt. With democracy they will be safer in my opinion. So lets not talk negatively and rejoice and celebrate with the people in the now! . Peace, Carlan
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Sabda
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From what I understand the Coptics are not exactly celebrating. As Jesus said be gentle as a dove but wise as a serpent. I feel it’s more prudent to wait and see how this shakes out.
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Carlan
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That’s O.K Erich, you can nit pick if you wish , This is a free country after all
Peace, Carlan
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Robert_Bay
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Definition of Jeffersonian Democracy:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffersonian_democracy
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Carlan
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We Catholics have always been persecuted ,and living in a Democracy doesn’t insure immunity I know (evidence in the US of the cross burners in the southern states in past decades)
I feel sure the world is going to be watching and hoping for the best possible result of the peaceful revolution, and the possibility that peaceful activity will spread to the rest of the worlds dictatorships. Peace, Carlan
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acarlson
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Praise God!! Let’s hope that more people around the world realize the power that they have to shape their government and their own lives!! And if the people decide that they want to have the Muslim Brotherhood as their government, let them. The best thing we can do is stay out of the election process.
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gilliam
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Some Copts are Orthodox, some Protestant and some follow their own pope. They are not part of our Church. As far as I know they have not been invited to any of the negotiations so far. We will see if the military invites them. They make up about 10% of the Egyptian population and are heavily persecuted. Their presence in Egypt predates the Muslims. Many Copts participated in the protests and reported no friction with Muslim protesters. Interesting article on the subject here:
christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/march/egyptaftermubarak.html
christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/march/egyptaftermubarak.html
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Carlan
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Hello Gilliam, I thought perhaps you would be interested to learn what I found recently on the Catholics in Egypt.
The Coptic Catholic Church is an Alexandrian Rite sui juris particular Church in full communion with the Pope (it is thus part of the larger worldwide Catholic Church). The Church numbers about 163,000 in Egypt alone (as of 2010) [1][2]. Historically, Coptic Catholics represent a schism from the Coptic Orthodox Church, leaving that church in order to come into full communion with Rome. The current Coptic Catholic Patriarch of Alexandria is Archbishop Antonios Naguib, who replaced Stephanos II Ghattas in 2005. The offices of the Patriarchate are located in Cairo. The Cathedral (Our Lady of Egypt) is located in Nasr City, a modern suburb of Cairo.
Peace, Carlan
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gilliam
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Thanks. That would make that group about 0.2% of the population of Egypt, which is about 80 million. Or about 2% of all Copts in Egypt. Learn something every day!
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Gift_from_God
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The Muslim Brotherhood isn’t even going to take part in the next election
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gilliam
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I am pretty sure they said they wouldn’t run anyone for President. They didn’t say they wouldn’t run people for seats in Parliament or any local positions. Also, with over 80% polling as anti-Israel, they don’t really need a majority to get their major initiative passed (the dropping of the peace treaty with Israel.)
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gilliam
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Some news from Aljazeera that may answer some questions we have been having:
**3:11pm **Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has just issued its fourth communiqué broadcast live on state television.
In the announcement, the country’s new military rulers promised to hand power to an elected, civilian government. They also pledged that Egypt would remain committed to all international treaties - in an apparent nod to its 1979 peace treaty with Israel.
And this from the BBC:
1314: Egypt military statement: current temporary government to remain in place until new government is formed.
**3:11pm **Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has just issued its fourth communiqué broadcast live on state television.
In the announcement, the country’s new military rulers promised to hand power to an elected, civilian government. They also pledged that Egypt would remain committed to all international treaties - in an apparent nod to its 1979 peace treaty with Israel.
Sounds like:
**3:11pm **Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has just issued its fourth communiqué broadcast live on state television.
In the announcement, the country’s new military rulers promised to hand power to an elected, civilian government. They also pledged that Egypt would remain committed to all international treaties - in an apparent nod to its 1979 peace treaty with Israel.
And this from the BBC:
1314: Egypt military statement: current temporary government to remain in place until new government is formed.
**3:11pm **Egypt’s Supreme Council of the Armed Forces has just issued its fourth communiqué broadcast live on state television.
In the announcement, the country’s new military rulers promised to hand power to an elected, civilian government. They also pledged that Egypt would remain committed to all international treaties - in an apparent nod to its 1979 peace treaty with Israel.
Sounds like:
- The military will hold power until an election is held
- The treaty with Israel will be honored at least until then.
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colmywaykurtz
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Most opinions I’ve heard are that MB is not nearly that powerful, and were/are a bogeyman excuse to keep Mubarak.
And how is it democracy to have one man keeping power for decades through rigged elections?
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