Mubarak stepping down

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A little more on the military’s statement:

The military announced Saturday it has also asked the current government appointed by ousted president Hosni Mubarak to continue operating until a new one is formed.

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In other moves aimed at appeasing protesters, the military relaxed a nighttime curfew Saturday and banned current and ex-government officials from travelling abroad without permission.

Read more: cbc.ca/world/story/2011/02/12/egypt.html#ixzz1Dky8OqxS
 
TheRealJuliane said:
Chances are more than good that the Muslim Brotherhood has engineered this whole thing and will step into the void. If that happens there is going to be huge trouble for Israel and the rest of the world, as Middle Eastern nations fall one by one away from democracy.
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I agree with the assessment of the MB wanting to overturn all the governments in the region and replace them with Sharia. I also think they had a hand in the organization of the demonstrations. I don’t know what will happen from here. The military are not allied with the MB.
The administration does not understand what they have done. Or, some of them do, and they want the end result.

Please pray for Israel.
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Unless there was a covert CIA involvement (and I think those days are over) the administration was obviously not leading this uprising but scrambling to be on the right side of history throughout the two weeks. All they showed the world was that we were supporting the dictator then when it got tough ended up being fickle friends. We did the same with the Shah of Iran (kinda sad really)
 
gilliam said:
I agree with the assessment of the MB wanting to overturn all the governments in the region and replace them with Sharia. I also think they had a hand in the organization of the demonstrations. I don’t know what will happen from here. The military are not allied with the MB.

Unless there was a covert CIA involvement (and I think those days are over) the administration was obviously not leading this uprising but scrambling to be on the right side of history throughout the two weeks. All they showed the world was that we were supporting the dictator then when it got tough ended up being fickle friends. We did the same with the Shah of Iran (kinda sad really)
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Time will tell, let us all pray and hope for the good, Peace, Carlan
 
Sabda said:
From what I understand the Coptics are not exactly celebrating. As Jesus said be gentle as a dove but wise as a serpent. I feel it’s more prudent to wait and see how this shakes out.
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Correct.

What you said is not “Negativity,” it is Reality.

There is a Russian Saying------

“Trust But Verify.”

I think we need to Start following It in this Situation.👍
 
Carlan said:
We Catholics have always been persecuted ,and living in a Democracy doesn’t insure immunity I know (evidence in the US of the cross burners in the southern states in past decades)
I feel sure the world is going to be watching and hoping for the best possible result of the peaceful revolution, and the possibility that peaceful activity will spread to the rest of the worlds dictatorships. Peace, Carlan
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I think whatever Persecution we Catholics (EC and WC) MAY go through in this country CANNOT compare to what Copts (and Chaldeans in Iraq, Maronites in Lebanon, etc.) go through on a daily basis. Like Murder With Full Knowledge Of The Police, Kidnapping of Coptic Girls and Forced Conversion Of Them to Islam, etc…So NOT the Same Thing. :rolleyes:
 
Gift_from_God said:
The Muslim Brotherhood isn’t even going to take part in the next election
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We don’t know that yet. Hopefully the Military will declare them Persona Non Grata in whatever new Government Comes out Now.
I will Pray for that to Happen.:)👍
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
I think whatever Persecution we Catholics (EC and WC) MAY go through in this country CANNOT compare to what Copts (and Chaldeans in Iraq, Maronites in Lebanon, etc.) go through on a daily basis. Like Murder With Full Knowledge Of The Police, Kidnapping of Coptic Girls and Forced Conversion Of Them to Islam, etc…So NOT the Same Thing. :rolleyes:
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Yes, Shocking, however living in democracy should be much less barbaric than it is in all those Gulf region dictatorships,as an example look at the Muslim communities living in free democracies, They are not amongst the uncontrolled radicals. And do not condone such,anymore than members of other religious communities do.
like other communities they want only peace and goodness for their loved ones,as you say we pray for goodness to happen in that part of the world,
peace, Carlan
 
Carlan said:
Yes, Shocking, however living in democracy should be much less barbaric than it is in all those Gulf region dictatorships,as an example look at the Muslim communities living in free democracies, They are not amongst the uncontrolled radicals. And do not condone such,anymore than members of other religious communities do.
like other communities they want only peace and goodness for their loved ones,as you say we pray for goodness to happen in that part of the world,
peace, Carlan
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I still don’t see Muslims over here being Murdered, Harassed and Persecuted for their beliefs like Christians are in the Middle East.
Nobody is Forcing Muslim Girls over here to Convert To Christianity. Or Having them Murdered for their Religion.

And while I agree the US Governement HAS AT TIMES gone overboard in their Investigations regarding Our Muslim Population, Overall the Mislim has NOT undergone the Hell on Earth that Christians have gone through in the Middle East. A lot of the stereotyping they have gone through is also understandable, given that Islam IS a Religion that DOES encourage VIOLENCE and is NOT a “Religion Of Peace.” “true” Muslims are taught to aid the Mahdi (Muslim Messiah) in killing ALL Infidels (those who refuse to convert at the end of time----don’t forget that. 😦

Of course, you will disagree with that. That’s fine.

And let’s not forget-----not ALL of the Muslim Community in the US Is Peaceful. Or Good. Or even Pro-American. Now YOU’RE Generalizing. But I agree—let’s all pray for the Well–Being and Stability of Egypt. 👍
 
Carlan said:
I celebrate the moment!
What a wonderful example of peaceful revolution!
Such a contrast to a large faction of some people’s mentality in our country.
The promotion of private arming of people with personal guns.
Let us start praying for the beginning of a successful democracy in the whole Arab world.

Peace, Carlan
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Amen Carlan
 
Egyptian military dissolves parliament

Egypt’s new military authorities say they are dissolving parliament and suspending the constitution.

In a statement on state TV, the higher military council said it would stay in power six months, or until elections.
Egypt’s current parliament is dominated by supporters of President Hosni Mubarak, who was ousted on Friday after 18 days of mass protests.
Earlier there were scuffles in Cairo’s Tahrir Square as protesters thwarted army efforts to remove them.
The military police chief has called for tents to be cleared from the area, the focal point of the uprising that led to Mr Mubarak’s departure.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12443678
 
gilliam said:
Egyptian military dissolves parliament

Egypt’s new military authorities say they are dissolving parliament and suspending the constitution.

In a statement on state TV, the higher military council said it would stay in power six months, or until elections.
Egypt’s current parliament is dominated by supporters of President Hosni Mubarak, who was ousted on Friday after 18 days of mass protests.
Earlier there were scuffles in Cairo’s Tahrir Square as protesters thwarted army efforts to remove them.
The military police chief has called for tents to be cleared from the area, the focal point of the uprising that led to Mr Mubarak’s departure.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12443678
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And so it begins.
 
Well, Egypt doesn’t have a dictator anymore.
They also don’t have a Constitution or a Representative Government either.
They’ve got a Military Junta with absolute power and a promise the elections are “forthcoming.”

It is a moment of great potential - for good or for evil.

Egypt could end up having a new military dictatorship imposed on them, rendering the whole protest as the function of a bunch of well-intentioned dupes being used to screen a military coup. If the new boss can get the Military to fire on protesters where Mubarak couldn’t that’ll be the end of the Egyptian Revolution in short order.

Egypt could end up voting in an abomination of a popular Constitution, instituting Sharia Law and putting an Islamist regime into power. Pew’s research polls of Egypt last year showed over 80% of Egyptian Muslims surveyed believed that their Government should legally execute apostates from Islam and stone adulterous women to death.

Egypt could end up forming a Constitution that protects fundamental rights to Life, Liberty, and Property for all its people and puts strict limits on governmental power to coerce citizens. This would be a new dawn for the Egyptian minority of Copts and Jews as well as provide a safe harbor for non-Fascist strains of Islamic thought in the Middle East. Along with Turkey this new Egypt would make bookends of the Middle East where non-Muslims aren’t subject to humiliation taxes or un-policed violence, where it isn’t illegal to convert away from Islam or evangelize other religions, and where women can actually participate in public society.

I’m praying for the last one, but I can’t embrace euphoria over the removal of Mubarak while the first two outcome scenarios are still on the table. It’s still a tough row to hoe in a rough neighborhood.
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mlund said:
Well, Egypt doesn’t have a dictator anymore.
They also don’t have a Constitution or a Representative Government either.
They’ve got a Military Junta with absolute power and a promise the elections are “forthcoming.”

It is a moment of great potential - for good or for evil.

Egypt could end up having a new military dictatorship imposed on them, rendering the whole protest as the function of a bunch of well-intentioned dupes being used to screen a military coup. If the new boss can get the Military to fire on protesters where Mubarak couldn’t that’ll be the end of the Egyptian Revolution in short order.

Egypt could end up voting in an abomination of a popular Constitution, instituting Sharia Law and putting an Islamist regime into power. Pew’s research polls of Egypt last year showed over 80% of Egyptian Muslims surveyed believed that their Government should legally execute apostates from Islam and stone adulterous women to death.

Egypt could end up forming a Constitution that protects fundamental rights to Life, Liberty, and Property for all its people and puts strict limits on governmental power to coerce citizens. This would be a new dawn for the Egyptian minority of Copts and Jews as well as provide a safe harbor for non-Fascist strains of Islamic thought in the Middle East. Along with Turkey this new Egypt would make bookends of the Middle East where non-Muslims aren’t subject to humiliation taxes or un-policed violence, where it isn’t illegal to convert away from Islam or evangelize other religions, and where women can actually participate in public society.

I’m praying for the last one, but I can’t embrace euphoria over the removal of Mubarak while the first two outcome scenarios are still on the table. It’s still a tough row to hoe in a rough neighborhood.
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How did Pew suddenly become an authority on Egypt? Mind providing a link to this study which I’ve been seeing so much mention of lately?
 
Here’s another one

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Gallup asked respondents who had an opinion about the role of Sharia as a source of legislation (those for whom Sharia should be the only source, one of the sources, or not a source) whether they associate certain attributes with Sharia compliance. Ninety percent of Iranians, 91% of Egyptians, and 74% of Turks expressed an opinion about the role of Sharia in national law. The following analysis focuses on the subgroups of individuals who say Sharia should be a source of legislation to better understand why they think Sharia should influence legislation
gallup.com/poll/109072/many-turks-iranians-egyptians-link-sharia-justice.aspx

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I can’t undersand how people who support human rights can be happy with Egypt’s numbers in these polls. :confused:
 
gilliam said:
Here’s another one

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Gallup asked respondents who had an opinion about the role of Sharia as a source of legislation (those for whom Sharia should be the only source, one of the sources, or not a source) whether they associate certain attributes with Sharia compliance. Ninety percent of Iranians, 91% of Egyptians, and 74% of Turks expressed an opinion about the role of Sharia in national law. The following analysis focuses on the subgroups of individuals who say Sharia should be a source of legislation to better understand why they think Sharia should influence legislation
gallup.com/poll/109072/many-turks-iranians-egyptians-link-sharia-justice.aspx

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/080725Sharia1_qnmj67vcd4.gif

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/080725Sharia2_2bnv51dsk.gif

I can’t undersand how people who support human rights can be happy with Egypt’s numbers in these polls. :confused:
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How many people were surveyed in all? How was the sample selected? How many peopel were in the subgroup you present? In how many of those countries is Sharia law actually practiced? Are there any differences in how it is practiced? Those are the questions that occur to me at first glance.
 
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